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Old 07-15-2015, 9:03 PM
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Well glad to hear the officer did you a favor. Perhaps she isn't the Gestapo after all.
did someone here say that she was/is?
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Old 07-15-2015, 9:38 PM
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Old 07-15-2015, 10:04 PM
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Just out of curiosity what happened in Utah that caused your CA license to get suspended?
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Old 07-16-2015, 7:03 AM
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Except for driving on a suspended license...

BTW, some commas would make your post a little easier to read.
...without a front plate, while the passenger is licensed...
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Old 07-16-2015, 9:38 AM
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Citidel is a cynical man, I like that about you. You seem to be heavily vested in determining the actual time of the pause. You are convinced that an officer would never pause for 5 seconds or longer.

What is the max time that an officer would pause when waiting for a suspect to incriminate himself?
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Old 07-16-2015, 9:46 AM
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Citidel is a cynical man, I like that about you. You seem to be heavily vested in determining the actual time of the pause. You are convinced that an officer would never pause for 5 seconds or longer.

What is the max time that an officer would pause when waiting for a suspect to incriminate himself?
There's no max time, I just doubted, and it turns out with good reason, that it was a five second pause. During a conversation, that's a very long time.

I'm not heavily vested in anything expect the entertainment value of this thread. I actually ridiculed the idea that the pause is significant in any way, even if it did last 5 seconds.

I've had plenty of people tell me they waited, first car at the light, for two or three minutes for the light to change.

At a standard intersection, two to three minutes is several complete light cycles.

People generally suck at estimating time.
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There's no max time, I just doubted, and it turns out with good reason, that it was a five second pause. During a conversation, that's a very long time.

I'm not heavily vested in anything expect the entertainment value of this thread. I actually ridiculed the idea that the pause is significant in any way, even if it did last 5 seconds.
On my next traffic stop I'm going to stare at someone for 6 seconds. Just for you.

I'm not an *****, so if they ask why I'll explain it to them.
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Old 07-16-2015, 5:27 PM
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Make lots of sudden movements. Best thing in this scenario ; )
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Old 07-16-2015, 8:32 PM
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"Fresno + No front license plate + Driving on suspended DL + "I don't consent to searches" = Vechile searched, towed & impounded.
Plenty of LOL statements in this thread. Thanks for the chuckles.."

Haha, this was the best comment by far in this thread!

OP, as far as feeling bullied from her, you need to grow a pair.

I'm not a LEO. I'm an ER doctor and I work with LEO's bringing people in every single day in the ER. I would say the VAST majority of them are very respectful and very tolerant of the BS that gets dished out to them. I deal with all sorts of crap as an ER doc and I can tell you the LEO's certainly have my respect.

OP, you may want to reflect on how the majority of responses have been towards you here. Do you see a pattern? Reminds me of an saying psychiatrists sometimes say when people don't realize the common problem is in the mirror:

"Sometimes, it is you."
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Old 07-19-2015, 9:08 AM
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I think the details you left out trying to cut out fat, are the source of what you are considering bashing. It gives the appearance of being evasive by leaving out those details.

Over the years I have had people reply rather strangely or inappropriately to questions or statements I made to them. An example is I'm going to search your vehicle before I tow it, is there anything in there I need to know or be concerned about, and someone pops up with I don't consent to searches. Now I'm not saying that's what happened, but it happens all the time with every human interaction. People tend to hear what they want to hear and not what the actual question was.

The bottom line is that you were either driving without or on a suspended license, DMV error or not the officer acted upon the information at hand at the time. You left information out of your initial post that could have saved you time and grief, and would have gotten you answer's to your initial question much faster. Since the only one here was you we do not know all the fact's as to why she felt uncomfortable, don't know if it was body language, or what.

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Old 07-19-2015, 7:40 PM
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Officer stares at OP for 5 seconds during a legitimate traffic stop and OP feels slighted and the need to ask about it.

DMV withholds the OP's drivers license even after the OP claims that he did everything necessary to have it reissued and

I can see why someone would stare at the OP with a confused look.
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Old 07-19-2015, 8:04 PM
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I stared at Citadel's last post for five seconds and it seemed like an eternity.
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Old 07-19-2015, 9:36 PM
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So this thread of four pages boils down to the officer asked him a question, he answered and then the officer stared at him for 1-2-3-4-5 seconds without saying anything...well, cool story bro.
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If all fines are paid from Utah, you still have a $60 reinstatement fee from ca DMV


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Old 07-21-2015, 4:24 PM
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At a standard intersection, two to three minutes is several complete light cycles.

People generally suck at estimating time.

It's a ten minute cycle during my commute, or my name isn't Alexander Vanderpeeble Bandersnatch III, Esquire.
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Old 07-21-2015, 7:13 PM
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I've had plenty of people tell me they waited, first car at the light, for two or three minutes for the light to change.

At a standard intersection, two to three minutes is several complete light cycles.
Not anymore.
The Fed changed the required minimum flashing don't walk times a few years ago (about a 15% increase), and California recently changed the formula for calculating yellow times. The yellow change is minimal, but at locations where the coordination cycle is already running "tight" it can be enough to push the timing plan to the next level.

Because of the FDW times, I have three arterials that run on a MINIMUM cycle time of 110 seconds. During peak periods, the Traffic Responsive program may push that to 140 seconds.

Minimum cycle time that I am currently running at any intersection is 80 seconds, except for two pair downtown that run 55s overnight and 70s in the afternoon.

So no... If you happened to pull up to the light just as it turned red, it very well could be as long as 80 or more seconds before it turns green again, and 3 minutes would most times not even be 2 complete cycles... much less "several"

One of my engineers used to consult for Irvine and they are running 160-180s cycle on their large intersections!
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True true... 2 minutes is reported as 5.
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There's no max time, I just doubted, and it turns out with good reason, that it was a five second pause. During a conversation, that's a very long time.

I'm not heavily vested in anything expect the entertainment value of this thread. I actually ridiculed the idea that the pause is significant in any way, even if it did last 5 seconds.

I've had plenty of people tell me they waited, first car at the light, for two or three minutes for the light to change.

At a standard intersection, two to three minutes is several complete light cycles.

People generally suck at estimating time.
This thread entertains me!

Well, I estimate it took you 2 minutes to formulate a coherent thought and type your response. I factored in your profession and the over 11,500 posts to "estimate" that you may type 70 wpm. I gave you an attorney's pause-for-effect of 30 seconds (you guys like to grandeur ), so...how did I do counselor?
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No front plate is great PC for a stop...found lots of dope and guns doing that...i find it interesting that in your original post you didn't state you license was suspended, so she didnt even have to ask...if your GF had a valid license why didnt she drive her truck..now she is punishes because she allowed her unlicensed BF to drive..

Doesn't add up and I am sure your demeanor was sketchy (shaking hands etc, ) as well since you knew your license was suspended..

BTW front license plates are required on every car in the state, except mine LOL
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BTW front license plates are required on every car in the state, except mine LOL
Why is your vehical exempt ? Do you drive a tractor?
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Why is your vehical exempt ? Do you drive a tractor?
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Someone edited my post. I'd rather it be deleted than to have my statements altered-so I deleted it.

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