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Old 09-02-2019, 7:44 AM
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Can you trace your roots back to the founding of the country? Do you have legal status? Do the descendants of slaves have legal status?
That's kinda the whole point of the 14th amendment, so, yeah, they do.
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That's kinda the whole point of the 14th amendment, so, yeah, they do.
Sure, right! Lot's of people who have been here a few generations and act like there ancestors have been here since the founding of the country. If you want to make the argument that you have some legal status and some people don't. Only NATIVE AMERICANS can make claim to legal status.

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Old 09-02-2019, 9:16 AM
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They were first, but no more native than the rest of us. Immigrated from Asia. I was born here, I am a Native American.

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Old 09-02-2019, 9:34 AM
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For an interesting look at statistics in just one town (Chicago) it has some sobering and even some funny categories that illustrate the topic with real statistics.

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Old 09-02-2019, 1:01 PM
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Sure, right! Lot's of people who have been here a few generations and act like there ancestors have been here since the founding of the country. If you want to make the argument that you have some legal status and some people don't. Only NATIVE AMERICANS can make claim to legal status.
Not true. You have no idea what you are writing about.

What "legal status" do Native Americans have that the others do not?

LEGAL status. Your words. "LEGAL." Not moral, not practical, but "legal."
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Not true. You have no idea what you are writing about.

What "legal status" do Native Americans have that the others do not?

LEGAL status. Your words. "LEGAL." Not moral, not practical, but "legal."
Why don't you question "Big Reds" rant that stated if you're a minority you have no legal status. Oh wait, did you miss that? You were quick to jump on me but no response to his racist statement. Did I misinterpret what he said? "Now the minorities who have no legal status in the country". Why didn't you ask him why they have no legal status?

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To respond to candadry I would like to say I am not racist and i should have said illegal immigrant instead of minority. None of us except those born within this country's borders might have any legal status or claim to it. somebody has always been a minority in this country even whites at the beginning and legal status is what the majority says it is. until people see beyond color you will always have racism and often it is in response to someone else using color to come after you no matter what your color is. It was my mistake using the wrong word and for that I would like to apologize for pulling a Joe Biden mistake but as for the rest maybe canadadry is just trying to provoke trouble by trolling.

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Why don't you question "Big Reds" rant that stated if you're a minority you have no legal status. Oh wait, did you miss that?
I am asking you to explain what you wrote in your post.
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Maybe I missed someone calling him out on it but I gotta say...Big Red...the claim the Obamas lost their law licenses is a false. They are inactive.
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I did not say they lost their licenses. But I did check with a fact finder and I found that neither has active licenses and the reasoning behind the inactive status is questionable in my mind. The bottom line is they are not practicing attorneys and doubt they ever will be again. I thought I cleared it up and apologized for the use of the word minority instead of Illegal immigrants.

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Questionable? Barack Obama became president and his wife became First Lady. Of all the shady stuff Barry did I don’t think this is one of them.

And yeah they will never need to practice again...because they enriched themselves off the presidency with book deals and speaking engagements.
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Why on earth would a former POTUS maintain his law license?
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And yeah they will never need to practice again...because they enriched themselves off the presidency with book deals and speaking engagements.
I think they were already pretty wealthy to begin with, but to be fair, most presidents and their families have done that. The ones that surprise me are the Clintons, how do they end up broker than they started? That is, if you believe what they say about being in debt.
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So, did anyone actually go to the meeting? Report?
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Why on earth would a former POTUS maintain his law license?
Why not? Good Lord after law school and passing the bar, no reason not to.
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Old 09-03-2019, 11:13 AM
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It’s going to be funny when the Dems Mexican replacement plan finally reaches the point of no return and they no longer need to pander to the Blacks. They do Zero for the Black community and somehow still control them . Keeping people hooked on welfare is no good for anybody, unless your the person in control?!?!

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I Love my Country , Guns , Freedom, Borders and White People.

Take Away any one of those and we are DOOMED!!
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While White Supremacy is terrible, it's numerical impact is minor at best nowadays. It's on the decline if we compare to how things were a few decades ago. At worst, people who subscribe to it are more hardcore about their beliefs because they know they are going out of fashion.

The real meeting I want to see is "Gun Violence and ****ty Parenting". Whether it's is some suburban white person or some gang banging minority, I believe we can all agree that they most likely had some ****ty parent who didn't take the time to do their damn job of raising a contributing member of society.

This could also be paired with "Gun Violence and Entitled Losers". Another source behind shootings is some ****er who feels like he was shafted by society in some fashion. You got incels who complain that women don't like him, someone who lost most of their money, or some other bull****. They go out and shoot people out of frustration for their own failures.

Unfortunately, we're not going to get either of those two meetings because this is something that goes beyond government intervention. Since that is the case, the next best thing is for the general populace to be able to arm themselves to put down any potential mass shooter. Again, another thing that goes beyond government intervention.
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Why not? Good Lord after law school and passing the bar, no reason not to.
What do they need their licenses for? Will the former president or first lady start handling some medical malpractice lawsuits? Maybe a couple of divorce cases? You can't be this obtuse.
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What was that? White violence and gun supremacy?
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You really think 13% of the population can commit higher rates of crime than the other entire population. Give me a break.
Yes. And I'm giving you that break.
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White Supremacy is a Trojan Horse, the so called Anti racism groups didnt believe in the American Republic or Capitalism as it has been for 200+ years. They are against every aspect of this nation since their beginning... in their mind that would be 1619. If not what we have than what ? Marxism... another real racist who actually believed in Sub Human Races and Slavery. Marx as a German actual believed in Race Supremacy over Slavs and Blacks.

Some of these folks actually believed that Slavery fuel the American Economy in the beginning as was the case with Industrial Revolution or even more recently the Telecom Revolution. Did we have Black slaves in Silicon Valley during the last 30-40 years on some Plantation ? I sure didnt see any. They sure act as if there were.

Today after some 50 years its alot worse for African American but that is mainly from bad leadership on their side. From MLK to Jesse Jackson neither believed that AA should partiicate in the Captialist Economy. So their leaders played with Socialsm and kissy face with Castro and the Socialist Eastern European regimes. So the AA were left behind in the great leap forward. White Supremacy is nothing more than an excuse of no action on their side. Obama made it even more worse.

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Invoking "white supremacy" is just dog whistle politics nowadays. Invoking "white supremacy and gun violence" is just ignorance on the facts of basic crime statistics which are published every year by the FBI. If anything whites are underrepresented in crime, even hate crimes.

Something like half the murders are committed in about 2% of the country's counties. Half of the country's counties report 0 murders.
The violence is happening in giant urban Democratic enclaves that have been mismanaged and run into the toilet over the last several decades. That's where our crime problem comes from. Not "white supremacy."

Even if white supremacy were the bogeyman they say it is, this is a country that is 60% white and that number is falling fast.
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You Cali gun guys are Effed. Get out of there. I understand about your job, your town, your grandma, etc, but you know you are highly EFFED there in the golden state. Get out while you can.
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"You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass."

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"Should hostilities once break out between Japan and the United States, it is not enough that we take Guam and the Philippines, nor even Hawaii and San Francisco. To make victory certain, we would have to march into Washington and dictate the terms of peace in the White House. I wonder if our politicians, among whom armchair arguments about war are being glibly bandied about in the name of state politics, have confidence as to the final outcome and are prepared to make the necessary sacrifices."

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That so called White Supremacy and Guns over the Fireplace sure saved many from certain extinction. The USA would have been butchered like China saw the deaths of 100,000 at a time at the hands of the Japanese. And Japan was just a small island across the Pacific. Today you have a hostile foe across our border. And they look
to take it all and call it Azlan. And there are plenty inside who would assist. So you disarm your foe to the point of capitulation and make him feel guilty for everything.
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I wonder if Gavin invited any known White Supremacists to gather their views in this discussion? In the header I saw only Newsom, Becerra, the OES Mgr and two black people. Did the OES person offer any viewpoints from the 'Supremacist side? Were there any persons attending who knew diddly about "guns?"

Maybe that's all for the future, though. The message did say it was just the beginning of the conversation.
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You Cali gun guys are Effed. Get out of there. I understand about your job, your town, your grandma, etc, but you know you are highly EFFED there in the golden state. Get out while you can.

Can I stay at your house? C'mon big guy. House a refugee.



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I wonder if Gavin invited any known White Supremacists to gather their views in this discussion? In the header I saw only Newsom, Becerra, the OES Mgr and two black people. Did the OES person offer any viewpoints from the 'Supremacist side? Were there any persons attending who knew diddly about "guns?"

Maybe that's all for the future, though. The message did say it was just the beginning of the conversation.

If they tried I bet they couldn't even find a white supremacist.
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The New Democrat Bolsheviks are dense as hell.

300,000 mostly white Americans died fighting along side their Asian, American Indian, Black and Latino brothers fighting a bloody 5 year war against some real white supremacists the Socialist Democrats errr I mean the National Socialist racist SOB's in Germany. We also beat the hell out of the Imperial Japanese racist supremacists.

Did you pointy headed New Democrat fookers forget that or did you never know it?

4000 some American blacks fought with Washington in the American revolution to start this country- and also American Indians.

Not to mention the Civil war fought for a major part to free the slaves and stop white supremacists- again the war dead were mostly white Americans along with their American brothers of near all races.

America has always been diverse you destroying dumb chits, sure we have problems but name me one other country with a record as good as ours for tolerance..

The only thing supreme in America is the Constitution.

Stop sowing hate, grow up and ride for the brand or leave azhats- if you think America is so GD bad.

Thank you.

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