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Old 02-13-2019, 10:36 AM
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"It would also allow them to carry inside U.S. Post Offices, Social Security Administration offices, and Veterans Affairs facilities without having to disarm and secure their firearm elsewhere." <--- This is good.

When I was still with my department, I had to keep my pistol in my car when I went to the Social Security Admin office. I thought it was a rather ridiculous regulation.
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Now if they could just take care of hawaii.
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I'm sure the "Progressive" BLM apologists in the Congress will stall or vote no on this...

Hope it gets through.
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I can see pushback on this from leftist politicians who already have a personal phalanx of armed security and have no interest in helping a voting block that generally does not support them at the ballot box.
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Now if they could just take care of hawaii.


Donít hold your breath...Iíve heard some of there own cops say canít carry off duty. Not sure if that varies from island to island...
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Now if they could just take care of hawaii.
I must regretfully report that I visited Waikiki late last year, and it was in a sorry state. Very dirty and crowded with homeless encampments all over the place. Not nice, not safe, just your typical urban blight with a nice ocean view.
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I must regretfully report that I visited Waikiki late last year, and it was in a sorry state. Very dirty and crowded with homeless encampments all over the place. Not nice, not safe, just your typical urban blight with a nice ocean view.
So you spent 4 hrs on a plane, spent a buttload of money. Just to wind up in Venice Bch.
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I must regretfully report that I visited Waikiki late last year, and it was in a sorry state. Very dirty and crowded with homeless encampments all over the place. Not nice, not safe, just your typical urban blight with a nice ocean view.
Hawaii is the last state to visit out of all 50 states. I visited 49 states so far. I thought about going there this year. Is it that bad?
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Hawaii is the last state to visit out of all 50 states. I visited 49 states so far. I thought about going there this year. Is it that bad?
There are lots of reasons to go to the Hawaiian islands...none of them involve Waikiki. The area around the Pearl Harbor attractions in Honolulu are pretty sketchy too so try to park in a high foot traffic area of the parking lot/s

There are many amazing things to do on Oahu besides visiting those two areas. All of the other islands are each amazing in different ways too.
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"It would also allow them to carry inside U.S. Post Offices, Social Security Administration offices, and Veterans Affairs facilities without having to disarm and secure their firearm elsewhere." <--- This is good.

When I was still with my department, I had to keep my pistol in my car when I went to the Social Security Admin office. I thought it was a rather ridiculous regulation.
What is even more ridiculous is that my father worked for USPS and carried a USPS issued firearm everyday for over thirty years. Now that he is retired, he can't carry at the place that use to issue him a gun and pay him to carry it there. I hope this passes. I'll feel a little safer. I'd feel a lot safer if the Feds start allowing those non LEOs with CCWs to responsibly carry in Federal buildings too.
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There are lots of reasons to go to the Hawaiian islands...none of them involve Waikiki. The area around the Pearl Harbor attractions in Honolulu are pretty sketchy too so try to park in a high foot traffic area of the parking lot/s

There are many amazing things to do on Oahu besides visiting those two areas. All of the other islands are each amazing in different ways too.
^This is very true. The only thing I found of any interest in and around Waikiki was the State Military museum. The rest of it is a big open air shopping mall, with a beach.
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^This is very true. The only thing I found of any interest in and around Waikiki was the State Military museum. The rest of it is a big open air shopping mall, with a beach.
I hate to contradict myself, but I will admit its all a matter of perspective. There is some amazing fine dining and some pretty amazing architecture in Waikiki. The reason that I avoid it all like the plague is because I don't need to fly to Oahu to get that experience. In California we have LA and San Francisco for a very similar experience.
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So you spent 4 hrs on a plane, spent a buttload of money. Just to wind up in Venice Bch.
No. Thankfully it was only a one day outing as part of a multi-island cruise. The other islands (Kauai, Maui, and Big Island) were all fabulous.
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There are lots of reasons to go to the Hawaiian islands...none of them involve Waikiki. The area around the Pearl Harbor attractions in Honolulu are pretty sketchy too so try to park in a high foot traffic area of the parking lot/s

There are many amazing things to do on Oahu besides visiting those two areas. All of the other islands are each amazing in different ways too.
I visited Pearl Harbor on the same trip. It goes without saying that it is a must-see for any visitor who appreciates American history. I didn't pay too much attention to the surrounding area, but the grounds of Pearl Harbor were immaculate. The fact that the boat tour of the harbor is conducted and narrated by active duty Naval personnel in uniform added a strong degree of proper military bearing and seriousness to the entire experience.
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Now if they could just take care of hawaii.
No doubt! Iím planning on registering a certain handgun there when on vacation in a few months. The state now requires a $45.00 payment, registering the particular gun at the local PD office, live scan fingerprinting and 10-round or less magazine limitation.... all just to carry concealed while on vacation as an off duty LEO! How stupid!

But my buddy did it recently. It was painless. In and out in about an hour. Then once youíve done it with that specific firearm, you can bring it back to the Island year after year because itís already been registered.

...because we all know that itís the off duty cops (and the Donald according to Fake News) that are the root of all evil shootings in this country.

I feel so much safer now in Hawaii.
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No. Thankfully it was only a one day outing as part of a multi-island cruise. The other islands (Kauai, Maui, and Big Island) were all fabulous.
Just my opinion on the matter....

Yup, Maui and the Big Island for lots of activity and great beauty. Kauai for the ULTIMATE in garden beauty, but less to do (perfect if you want to do nothing but lay at the pool or beach). But Oahu just sucks. I told my buddy at work that it’s like going on vacation in San Pedro!

AVOID OAHU ALL TOGETHER! I’ll never return there.

The Big Island on the east side is lush, but near Hilo it’s a complete $h1+ hole. But the west side resort about 25 miles north of Kona is great. West side of the island is like the Mojave desert, literally. East side is the rain plush side. We liked the Big Island.

Kauai is all plush but limited in activity when compared to Maui. But stunningly beautiful.

Maui is still my favorite. You start to learn where your personal favorite spots, eateries, bars, beaches, lagoons and activities are on that island and that’s why we return there time after time.
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Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere. How can Hawaii be the only state that requires registration carrying under LEOSA? Is this an issued weapon versus owned weapon issue?

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Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere. How can Hawaii be the only state that requires registration carrying under LEOSA? Is this an issued weapon versus owned weapon issue?
If you read LEOSA closely and off the top of my head because I don’t feel like pulling it up on my iPhone right now, it has language that basically says “local laws” (or state laws etc...) still apply blah blah blah.

LEOSA says guns can be carried in all 50 states off duty by LEO, but states can “red tape” the procedures to do so. Those states can claim that they’re not denying the carry by LEO, thus complying with LEOSA but they can inconvienience the crap out of them. i.e. Hawaii.

Also restricting mag capacity is also allowed. Oh well, so I carry spare mags. That doesn’t upset me much.
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Alright I just read all the Hawaii leosa info on there AG website. I don’t think they could make it any more burdensome for retired guys. The way I read it is that their rules only apply for state and municipal carrying under leosa but active federal can avoid the local check in because leosa is not needed.
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