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https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.ne...pdf?1523546433 Exemption (a) is a messy mystery (and there's theories concerning it), but if you read definition (s)(2), they essentially do call out that self manufactured/assembled does not include serialized finished lowers transferred through a california gun store. Also Article 4 defines the persons who must follow the registration regs as people with unfinished receivers/frames. |
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No, once an RAW in any previous reg period, you’re good. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Andrew - Lancaster, CA NRA Life Member, SAF / CRPA / FPC member and supporter, USCCA Member |
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Question: too risky to reg like this, with my homemade (and very much compliant) integrated mag lock? Or should I reinstall the birdcage for reg and be stuck that way...
Both are legal, but I’m wondering if they are rejecting non-off-the-shelf BBs |
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No one knows who made BB's and there is no standard and they don't know anything about the manufacturers. The legal definition of a BB is clear, it's just a mechanism that shrouds the magazine release and prevents it from being operated. It could be lime green and shaped like a hello kitty with purple dots. If they have questions about functionality that's fine, answer them. No reason not to upload diagrams and talk about how it works in the comments either, completely up to you. BTW, that's a nice design.
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Ah, I realize after looking at your design what the issue is- that's what the standard mag release looks like and you have an internal mechanism that might not be obvious to the naked eye. In that case, I would upload in the extra pictures slots the diagrams of the mechanism and in the comments say it's installed and works as a BB.
This would help them process the application. They might be comparing it to photos of standard mag releases based on the model and be confused if they don't have X-Ray vision.
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Well, I've really slacked and delayed. Finally decided to register 5 AWs today.
Put 4 factory built in one transaction and it went through, but the last home-build one is a problem, the server keeps timing out when trying to pay the $15. The CFARS website is terrible and frustrating. I'm not really sure what to do (besides wait) when the website times out. Also, for a few AR regs, I didn't put anything in the comments field at all, but now I'm reading that you may put "interchangeable with barrels 16" or greater"... Is this really needed? |
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i've been trying to log in for 3 hours. I tried logging in, and it said password expired and to reset by following the forgot my password link. When they send you the email containing the link to use in order to reset, the link is dead. WTH. So frustrated.
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I've had all sorts of timeouts and errors while filling my applications. For one of my guns, I had to fill the form 5 times because the first 4 times I would get a time out or error. I then had multiple errors when submitting my payment but it went through eventually. Sent from my PH-1 using Tapatalk |
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Late to the party here. Was excited a few years ago when I purchased my CZ Scorpion Pistol. Here I am and I don't think I want to register it. I don't think I have a lot of room to make it a non AW, so my question is. Can I still sell this weapon (I haven't registered it yet), or worst case can I transfer it out of state through a FFL3? Thanks!
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If a guy wants to register and he has no internet access, is he SOL?
Did they provide a path of AW registration by paper? Is internet access a requirement in the law?
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Something just occurred to me: you are not allowed to remove the BB on a registered BBAW, but how about sticking one of those "mag-buttons" on it?
The BB is still there, right?
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I guess there's the argument of local libraries having free internet access for their local residents lol
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Depends on the definition of "alter", I guess. The DOJ's attitude is that if you "alter" the mag release mechanism in anyway, it is a "different" firearm. No, that makes no sense. But in CA (as in law), we know not much makes sense.
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The Rifle on the Wall "“[S]cientific proof” of both gun-rights and gun-control theories “is very hard to get”; therefore, requiring “some substantial scientific proof to show that a [firearm] law will indeed substantially reduce crime and injury” is tantamount to applying strict scrutiny to, and almost certainly will lead to invalidation of, the law." - Kamala Harris Lawyers and their Stockholm Syndrome Last edited by curtisfong; 06-04-2018 at 8:35 AM.. |
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Yes until July 1st as long as it's a non-AW config.
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^ Thanks.
Checking out the volreg form online it has a drop down menu for Make. On my 80% lower I made up a manufacturer name. Obviously it's not on the menu. How do I proceed. Do I just select US?
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When I got my letter my old Eagle Arms/Armalite M15 lower i registered in 2000 was on the new registration paperwork.
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Yes, that's fine. You could also try and see if the manufacturer is in the list, as in the manufacturer of the 80% receiver.
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Yes they are making no distinction in the letter as to what class of AW it is. All are lumped together. But if you didn’t register new rifles and just tried to register your already registered one it would have rejected and no new letter. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Andrew - Lancaster, CA NRA Life Member, SAF / CRPA / FPC member and supporter, USCCA Member |
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Early reg letters did not distinguish but later ones do have a code attached to differentiate. It tells us that they do in fact have the information and it will pop up on an LEO AFS check.
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Is this still true with fixed mag solutions like the helfighter etc? |
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Gotta be 18 years old before June 30 of this year to be a co-registrant, and gotta be registered as a co-registrant by the same date. June 30 is a firm deadline. Nothing can happen with AW registration after that except for data corrections for a couple weeks afterward.
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Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do. Last edited by CandG; 06-04-2018 at 9:07 PM.. |
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FYI, I'm not sure why this thread keeps being used, this info in here is OLD. Please see the link to the AW Registration Guide in my signature.
Mods, can we lock this thread?
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Settle down, folks. The new "ghost gun" regulations probably don't do what you think they do. |
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I was looking for this old post in another thread but it sums up what LEO sees on AFS pretty well from someone who knows:
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BB V2.0 is a giant gray area and it's going to take time for it to be really known if they will go after it or not. They might. Many manufacturers claim approval or legality and it's just a plain lie. Ask them for written proof.
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When doing the volreg on my 80% build, do I need to write in the comments section explaining that my rifle has a fixed magazine? I don't think pictures alone will show that it has a fixed mag part installed.
Also, from what I've read putting down Multi for caliber is not allowed? So putting down whatever cal. is stamped on the barrel is OK?
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Last edited by MrBlazito; 06-05-2018 at 12:22 PM.. |
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From what I've read people have been asked via email/phone to attach pictures after submitting the volreg online.
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