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Old 03-29-2010, 4:01 PM
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Question Trijicon TA11 .308 Reticles

I am thinking about a TA11 for my FAL. The Trijicon site says the horseshoe reticle is designed for close quarter shooting so I probably should eliminate it. I am leaning towards the green crosshair reticle since I believe it is better for accurate shooting. Anyone here have experience with both the chevron and crosshair reticles? I don’t plan on shooting out further than 600 yards.




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Old 03-29-2010, 7:23 PM
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Old 03-29-2010, 7:34 PM
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i like the chevron better. eaiser to see the exact aim point and doesn't look as busy as the crosshair. HOWVER, I have the crosshair because it was the ONLY reticle option for my acog (FDE with dr optic) so i took it. It's been good and hasn't been too destracting
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Interesting. I wonder why they say the horeshoe is for CQB, unless it's the only one with BAC. I can see where the horeshoe helps for CQB, but I wouldn't at all say it's an exclusive CQB sight.

I have a horseshoe, and the only thing I don't like about it is the 100 yard aiming point is the top of the shoe, which isn't as precise as the top of the crosshair axis or the point of the chevron.

(See update below - 100m zero is center dot on the horseshoe)
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I have a horseshoe, and the only thing I don't like about it is the 100 yard aiming point is the top of the shoe, which isn't as precise as the top of the crosshair axis or the point of the chevron.
Center dot is 2 moa and is zero for 100 meters
There is no specific 200 meter mark and tip of BDC is 300. Width of
horseshoe equates to 19 inches at 150 meters.


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Center dot is 2 moa and is zero for 100 meters
There is no specific 200 meter mark and tip of BDC is 300. Width of
horseshoe equates to 19 inches at 150 meters.


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Thanks Scott. Just called Trijicon to confirm this. Unfortunately, the manual states top of the reticle for 100m. Trijicon has plans to get a specific horeshoe manual soon to address this.

Back to the range to rezero.
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Once A Marine,

I found this on AR15.com regarding the horseshoe Reticle.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=490600

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Thanks for the responses so far. Someone posted the following link on another thread, which I found very helpful.

http://www.03designgroup.com/technot...considerations
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I decided to go with the TA11H-308G Green Horseshoe Ballistic Reticle. Thanks for the input everyone.
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Thanks Scott. Just called Trijicon to confirm this. Unfortunately, the manual states top of the reticle for 100m. Trijicon has plans to get a specific horeshoe manual soon to address this.

Back to the range to rezero.
No problem. That's kind of silly Trijicon has a new reticle but does not update their manual or even provide an insert. Great reticle though!

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I too am shopping for an optic, probably an ACOG for a LaRue OBR 5.56 with 16" barrel I recently ordered.

I like the size and greater magnification of the TA31F-G plus the fact that it's optimized for 14.5" to 20" barrel. I did look thru one at a local gunshop and found the 1.5" of eye relief not to my liking.

That said I could get the TA11F-G with 3.5 power and about 2.5" of eye relief and optimized for 20" barrel which probably would not make much difference. Local gunshop did not have this model for me to look thru.

Most shooting will be from 50 yards to 200 yards. I would like to try to go to 300 yard but not sure if my vision will be good enough for that.

I'm trying to find someone in my gun club that has one of the 3.5 power ACOG scopes so I can check out the magnification at 200 yards. I want to make sure that will be enough magnification for me. If was confident it has sufficient magnification for me I'll buy one.
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I'm trying to find someone in my gun club that has one of the 3.5 power ACOG scopes so I can check out the magnification at 200 yards. I want to make sure that will be enough magnification for me. If was confident it has sufficient magnification for me I'll buy one.
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A few issues I can see arising with Acog reticles.

1.) How can you tell if the rifle is canted with the reticle being a straight post down the middle and no "cross" hairs? At 100 its not such a big deal but at 4-600yds it is.
2.) The acog uses some goofy parallax system that makes the right cross hair blurry and disappear.
3.) Only the t11 and one or so other acog has decent eye relief.
4.) Do the hold overs work? If yes what bullet do they work with? At what velocity? What grain? From what barrel?
5.) Can you get a custom BDC made? How much? How long?
6.) How do you take into account windage? Kentucky windage? What do you align it with?

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Really great side by side comparison............

http://www.militarywarfighter.com/Tr..._FAQ_s/386.htm



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A few issues I can see arising with Acog reticles.

1.) How can you tell if the rifle is canted with the reticle being a straight post down the middle and no "cross" hairs? At 100 its not such a big deal but at 4-600yds it is.
2.) The acog uses some goofy parallax system that makes the right cross hair blurry and disappear.
3.) Only the t11 and one or so other acog has decent eye relief.
4.) Do the hold overs work? If yes what bullet do they work with? At what velocity? What grain? From what barrel?
5.) Can you get a custom BDC made? How much? How long?
6.) How do you take into account windage? Kentucky windage? What do you align it with?
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