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Old 01-08-2016, 4:21 PM
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I just found out they have them now and after calling, they no longer offer LEO gun lockers. They said to leave them in your car. They obviously dont want any guns there. A great soft target and an American symbol. Dumb.
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Yikes. Seriously? It's practically an invitation to be a target
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Soft target indeed...

But, I guess it is okay, because it is the happiest place on earth.
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There are only a few detectors and guests are selected i assume randomly. Good to hear about the UC guys.
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Old 01-09-2016, 10:10 AM
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Negative. Plain clothes Anaheim PD inside.
$5MM/year. 8 officers at 88/hr 14hr days.
Uniformed OT still available to those plain clothes coppers.

They have beefed up.
Enhanced details are not disclosed but, little bird says. A lot more now
That doesn't include their own security. I'd wager 1 per 2-300 guests. Also on site Anaheim fire station in addition to their own registered nurses and an FBI office.
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They obviously dont want any guns there. A great soft target and an American symbol. Dumb.
Not at all.

They really have a very comprehensive, and discreet, security system.

I'd think one of their main concerns would be Friendly Fire from armed off-duty LE
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At the la zoo right now
Anybody could walk in here with anything
Security guard is flirting with the snack girl
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At the la zoo right now
Anybody could walk in here with anything
Security guard is flirting with the snack girl
People actually go to the LA Zoo?

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Yikes. Seriously? It's practically an invitation to be a target
they have their own security systems and personnel, outside contractors (recently hired after a credible threat was received, these are the guys that brought in the metal detectors), local law enforcement, and even bomb dogs disguised as service animals throughout the entire park. Security checks at every entrance and a very secure perimeter.

Theres always a chance of a problem, but in actuality D-land is one of the safest places you could visit short of the pentagon or white house, even if they wont let you carry you own gun
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Disneyland reminds me of airports, good security presence at the hard entrances, but if you know the layout to these places there are plenty of ways to circumvent the security measures in place.

The threat assessment class I went to really opened my eyes to how vulnerable we are if we ever get a enemy with half a brain. I'm surprised things don't happen more often to be honest.

Even with metal detectors, I would bet money I could get my gun in Disneyland without much of a fuss. But their house their rules, I'll spend my money elsewhere.

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There are only a few detectors and guests are selected i assume randomly. Good to hear about the UC guys.

I just spent 3 days at Disneyland and was chosen every time I entered for a random inspection.

Funny, did not bother me one bit.
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Surveillance is unreal. Intelligence cells have always been in place..
Cameras everywhere and one of the most advanced facial recognition programs in the world. A friend was Anaheim PD and told of being obvious in tracking/watching a couple groups of Arabs in town just so they knew Disney couldn't be their target. Our daughter was working Autopia and a fight broke out in the back within about 30 seconds 8 security guys had it ended - that was 10 years ago.
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Anyone else picturing Donald Duck and Goofy pulling out there m4 and taking care of business or is it just me.
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Wand scanners or walkthrough?
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Wand scanners or walkthrough?
Both. I was there Monday. They are pulling people aside after the bag check.
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Went a few weeks ago. They seem to favor selecting women with strollers for the random metal detector. I didn't get checked at all. The screeners are worse than TSA.
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I was there the other day and they've upgraded the detectors from CEIA (junk) to Garrett PD6500i models, which are state of the art. The screeners are still contract employees. I imagine Disney is in the process of training their own staff.

I'm going again on Tuesday and will check on the gun locker situation. I'm aware of the security at Disney and don't feel the need to carry there, but I don't like leaving guns in the car, even there.

(I have extensive training/experience in metal detectors, including the 2002 Salt Lake Olympics. I am certified by Garrett to work on their equipment and until last year had my own business selling/repairing/installing them. My back told me it was time to fully retire)
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I went to the Knott's Berry Farm and they did not check. Showed my ID and walked right through. I think they don't mind LEOs come in armed.
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I went to the Knott's Berry Farm and they did not check. Showed my ID and walked right through. I think they don't mind LEOs come in armed.
No they don't. They just ask that if you are going to ride some of the attractions that are a bit more... exciting that you secure your firearm so you don't lose it.
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While I get the purpose at public transportation facilities, I totally laugh at places like Disneyland, Knott's, Staples, MLB Parks etc. Think about it--
1. Minimum wage employees whose skill sets are limited
2. Told to go find weapons and take them away armed only with a Magic Wand
3. God help them if they really run into a real bad person
4. Then when the do encounter a person with a weapon, it is probably an LEO.
5. Then this person gets into the disarmament discussion. LEO vs Wand Person --->

Downhill conversation from there.

IMHO---> The bottom line---Yake the LEOs guns ---Its a "Feel Good" procedure.

I could ramble on and on----The LEO's here I believe understand.
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When I know I'll have to leave a gun in car I'll sometimes take it apart and put the pieces in different parts of the car figure that is better than nothing and as long as whole car isn't stolen a thief may not even steal a barrel or a slide and may not have rike to look for all the parts.
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8 plain clothes LEOs and a few uniformed officers will not do much for in an active shooter or IED situation. I was DL security many moons ago and have been a LEO for 10 years now. Their security is nothing more than customer service. If S*** were to really hit the fan at ANY Disney park there is not really much that can stop it. The largest impact would be to the Disney company itself as they would suffer in attendance. That's why Disney likes to sweep all incidents under the rug and pays big bucks to keep the media quiet.
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ive only wandered in their with my firearm a few times on accident. i dont want them to get crazy and revoke my annual pass. these days i always make sure i drop the mag and lock down the gun in my truck.
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I spoke with Disney security today. He said they still offer gun lockers for peace officers, but not CCW holders because the availability is limited.

He said they are in the process of adding more walk through detectors and that eventually 100% of visitors will be screened with the detectors.
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Thanks for the info. I can officially put Disneyland on my list of places to never go to ever again.
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I told my wife this will be the last year we renew. It's over priced and over crowded.

They've never had an incident with a CCW holder for how long now, and they just don't want to offer a locker... Let me pay 5-10 bux for the day and call it good... they can recoup that money crazy fast.
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Knotts is still LEO friendly
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they have their own security systems and personnel, outside contractors (recently hired after a credible threat was received, these are the guys that brought in the metal detectors), local law enforcement, and even bomb dogs disguised as service animals throughout the entire park. Security checks at every entrance and a very secure perimeter.

Theres always a chance of a problem, but in actuality D-land is one of the safest places you could visit short of the pentagon or white house, even if they wont let you carry you own gun
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So I was there last Thursday. Went through security the first time and let them check my backpack and they waved me on through. Went to Downtown Disney and ate and had to return through security on the way to our hotel which was across the street from main entrance, after my bag was checked I was selected to go through the metal detector which was a bust because I had a mini leatherman that has a pair of scissors and a 1 1/4" blade that i put in the bowl where you put your belongings. Explained we were on our way out to our hotel and one of the security guys escorted us out. The next day I head through security again and they check my backpack again and wave me through. Have a great time and exit that evening and return again the next day and same routine. Drive home later that day to NorCal and when at home I unload my backpack and what do you know they missed the 4" blade that was in the bottom of my pack the whole time.

The security is a feel good in my opinion. You could easily conceal a weapon into the park, especially in a backpack that never goes through the metal detector. Mine never did!
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You could conceal or sneak in stuff pretty easy still, but the security system at disney is pretty ridiculous.

Theres the friendly security guards everywhere- they hire trained observers for this position as well as plainclothes positions and people disguised as tourists with service dogs, except they're bomb dogs. They like to hire ex leo and military types, especially retired guys for the uniformed positions.

Then theres the camera system- everywhere, every angle, advanced facial recognition system as well as flagging unhappy or angry faces

ever been on a tour of the underground? paths, tunnels, and full on roadways with electric vehicles beneath the entire park, back doors and hidden door everywhere. Armed guards can get around crowds to handle an issue in minutes or even seconds anywhere in disneyland.
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Are they screening for explosives in those metal detectors. Just look at other parts of the world. If someone wants to cause terror they will turn to whatever they can to get the job done.
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Just got back from a trip to see The Mouse.

Bag searches were OK; they were not on 'high alert', so it was pretty routine. But anything heavy or hard would be spotted - they picked up my bag and manipulated it some.

Was picked for the metal detector once, from DTDisney, and the entry through the hotel takes everyone. Disney staff, apparently. Don't know how sensitive the walk-thrus are, since I was being entirely cooperative and really did empty my pockets, and had nothing forbidden in my backpack.

Anaheim PD at the security area mid-mornings and late evenings; might be there all the time. I saw just 2 at any one time.

Hadn't been in probably 20 years; I was surprised they took all of our pictures on first use of our multi-day tickets, and subsequent scans of the bar codes retrieved the pics. And they really did look and match the picture to the face of the person presenting the ticket. At least, I observed they did it to me and my family; can't imagine we were singled out.
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I just got back from spending a day at Disneyland too. Typical bag searches. None of us got picked for the metal detector, but then again, I didn't pack a firearm with me since I didn't check any luggage. Not a big deal to me. We love Disneyland and it's not going to stop me from going there. We have annual passes anyway.

We'll be going back in May since I have training in SoCal then. Make a trip out of it since I'll be there.

EDIT: BTW, Librarian, you were not singled out. They do that to everybody from what I've seen.

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There isn't anything that Internet Threat Analysis Experts come up with that Disney hasn't thought of long ago. A multi-billion dollar company isn't just going to stupidly lay itself bare to a potential mass casualty event. The best counter measures are the ones that nobody notices.
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The photos on the multi day tickets was in response to people buying multi day tickets and then "renting" them out for a day to multiple people, making a profit on them. There was a lot of fraud with the multi day tickets. Now a multi day ticket can only be used by the person who originally used the ticket.
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Just did 3 days in Disneyland & California adventure, and was only selected to go thru the metal detectors only once
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You could conceal or sneak in stuff pretty easy still, but the security system at disney is pretty ridiculous.

Theres the friendly security guards everywhere- they hire trained observers for this position as well as plainclothes positions and people disguised as tourists with service dogs, except they're bomb dogs. They like to hire ex leo and military types, especially retired guys for the uniformed positions.

Then theres the camera system- everywhere, every angle, advanced facial recognition system as well as flagging unhappy or angry faces

ever been on a tour of the underground? paths, tunnels, and full on roadways with electric vehicles beneath the entire park, back doors and hidden door everywhere. Armed guards can get around crowds to handle an issue in minutes or even seconds anywhere in disneyland.
From my knowledge, and I have researched extensively on Disneyland and the Walt Disney Company, this is rumor. I have been countless times, talked to numerous ex-cast members and people familiar with the inner workings of Disney, and have never heard this.
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From my knowledge, and I have researched extensively on Disneyland and the Walt Disney Company, this is rumor. I have been countless times, talked to numerous ex-cast members and people familiar with the inner workings of Disney, and have never heard this.

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Theres also tunnels beneath the disneyland hotel and parts of downtown disney. A long time ago we ate at Steakhouse 55 in one of the hotel towers, and we were staying in one of the other towers. When we were done eating it was raining like crazy, one of the cast members took us down a tunnel and over to the other tower without going out in the rain. This was back when the whole center of the hotel was a lake with paddleboats, pool, rc boats, and walkways all around
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