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EMP - How do you plan to generate power
Now that I've read this report, I'm not sure my generators will be shielded from an EMP. I'm also concerned about solar systems with electronic controllers.
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Findings include that: - 99 nuclear reactors would likely melt down without electricity to cool them. - 4.1 million would be displaced from areas around the nuclear plants as the radioactive cloud spread. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/w...cy-world-order
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And it has never happened. Lots of other things to worry and prep for.
Store your "emp" sensitive stuff in a steel shipping container and forget about it. The Nuke they set off in space to create a big enough EMP event is likely to kill us all anyways. |
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The claim was that while newer cars have more electronics, they also have more protections. Whether that is true or not, only experience may tell. Last edited by Sailormilan2; 12-01-2018 at 4:10 PM.. |
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Like the Y2K panic. Time will tell.
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Solar controllers are small and start at around $12. Buy a backup and shield it. Nuke plants will melt down without electricity to keep them cool. Don't nuke plants produce electricity? I would hope they could tap their own source.
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"How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb"
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After reading this some time ago https://www.futurescience.com/emp.html I decided to be indifferent on the subject.
An EMP effect has too many variables that cannot be reasonably dealt with and remains out of my control. Not worrying about sh_it I cannot control is a good place for me to be.
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It doesn't work like that...
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Electricity is overrated, It's just a fad I tell you.
You want to listen to a radio or use your phone to find out when help is coming to save you? Just wait around and see when they come to help... then you'll know what time that is. You want lights in the dark? A way to create warmth? Disinfect your water? There's an app for that called fire and some sticks. (* Not to be confused with a Fire Stick, fool me once eBay.) The way I see it is worst case scenario would be EMP from the Sun so strong every electronic device on the planet is gone so you might as well start with fire (if that's the case anything you've stored in a faraday cage might be okay but the demand will be so high for it your life will be at risk if anyone knows you have it and once it breaks it's gone forever.) the alternative is a lesser or human-caused EMP and even if it disables a lot of the planet and leads to chaos eventually help will arrive to try to stabilize / reset your country and its consumer$. |
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EMP is nothing to be completely unconcerned about, but it appears that officialdom doesn't take this report quite as seriously as the author does.
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The book-“ one second after” paints an accurate picture of an EMP attack
A sun flare could do the same thing it did in the 1800’s to telegraph lines. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Second_After
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I have a handheld HAM radio, extra batteries, an Android tablet with lots of written resources saved on the SD card, a handful of batteries, a battery charger, a flashlight, and a portable solar charger in a tempest cage. I also have lots of candles. That's all the power I plan on needing.
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One bomb going off in space can knock out electricity to a large portion of the United States. Let's say the southwest quarter of USA. And meanwhile, you sitting in California would not only *not die*, you probably wouldn't even notice anything unusual happened. Aside from the fact that all electricity seems to be gone and maybe you noticed something really bright in the sky, if it happened at night or you happened to be outdoors.
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I have done a ton of reading on it and all the church has to say on the subject and I'm going with them on this issue. |
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If there's an event that burns up the circuitry in my radio while inside a tempest cage I'll probably be dead, and there wont be any other radio's to talk to anyway. |
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I can't find the solar setup that I have with my camping gear but it's something along the lines of this: https://amzn.to/2Lm3fPs If you keep that and some 12v batteries in a metal shed or storage container your set. I would avoid a generator at all cost, if we're actually concerned about an EMP there will be very little noise (most cars, electronics etc wont be working) so even the noise of a quiet generator will carry and make you a target. |
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I you are preparing for something that hasn't happened in 150 years and didn't even knock out their electrical generation capabilities then then have at it. There are a million ways to take better care of your family. |
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Air University is not gov't funded research. That's why the disclaimers. They are basically grad school student papers. Air Force Weapons School papers have the same disclaimers because they are written by students, and yet they are still used to define tactics and methods used by fighter aircraft.
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Go back and look at the pulse that took out sections of the grid in 89 in Quebec. Having a method of power generation is an irresponsible way to take care of ones family? Seems to me a couple solar panels and a battery is a pretty good way to take care of ones family. We were without power for a week after the Northridge quake, we were without power last month with the fires for several days as well. If your barometer for what to prepare for is when it happened last, then we might as well prepare for nothing. Last I checked we haven't had a nation wide violent civil unrest in the same span of time yet here this section of Calguns is.... |
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Civil unrest and war happens everyday in the world. Starvation and disease have killed millions and there is no better killers than governments. Ask the Jewish people about WW II if you have any questions. Wildfires have killed over 100 people in California this year alone. My own ranch was besieged with fire 5 years ago and not for being prepared I could have suffered the same fate. We came out unscathed. In fact we fed, bathed and sheltered firefighters for 3 weeks. With your reasoning you might as well prepare for getting struck by lightning because it kills and injures more people than your EMP does. Best of luck and God Bless. Your concern for me and my family is a blessing. |
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There are also many individuals who rely on power to run necessary medical equipment... my family included. So yes, 9 hours without power would be a big deal. |
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Nuclear exchanges large scale enough to cause widespread EMP issues will result in conditions from enough that EMP issues will be far down the list of immediate concerns.
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My home in town has a 10,000 watt propane gen set with about 800 gallons of propane to run it. The Ranch is on the grid but we have a 12 KV solar-battery system with diesel back up with enough fuel to run it 4 hours a day for a year plus . We measure battery reserves by the ton. My well is grid tied with a 6000 watt propane gen set as backup. I can feed 30 people for a year or more without growing or raising a thing. We have the ability to protect our loved ones. I worry way more about people bringing harm to my family than EMP ever will. There are lots of contingencies to worry about, EMP is so far down the list I can't see it. Everybody south of Bakersfield makes me worry. God Bless |
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At home is an entirely different story ... but like I said, everyones needs are different, for some people power is a luxury, for others it's a necessity. |
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I will take my chances and will add a generator and solar panels to my preperations. If they don't work, oh well. If they do work, good for me.
My understanding of EMP threat is that with the miniaturization of circuits, the operating currents are also smaller and those miniaturized circuits can be damaged by the EMF generated by an EMP. Devices designed to withstand 10's and 100's of amps may not be as susceptible. I'm thinking car alternator and basic generators, and probably solar panels may survive. If any of these are using miniaturized circuits to control the waveform generation then they may not survive.
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