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Old 09-08-2017, 4:14 PM
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No. They want an auto registration, utility bill, anything current that confirms your residence location. They're gonna physically check anyway, but they won't even start the process if you can't prove you live in the county.
Sorry I probably didn't word that correctly, I meant when purchasing a handgun. CCW license can be used as a government ID for POR purposes?
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CCW can be used as proof of residency if CDL doesn't show current address, correct?
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I have used my CCW as proof of residency during road blocks and evacuations.
My CDL only has my PO Box on it and has been that way 35 years.
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No. They want an auto registration, utility bill, anything current that confirms your residence location. They're gonna physically check anyway, but they won't even start the process if you can't prove you live in the county.
If he has a CCW, then what process are you talking about?
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From the OAG's FAQs: https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs#3
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As part of the DROS process, the purchaser must present "clear evidence of identity and age" which is defined as a valid, non-expired California Driver's License or Identification Card issued by the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV). A military identification accompanied by permanent duty station orders indicating a posting in California is also acceptable.

Purchasers of handguns must provide proof of California residency, such as a utility bill, residential lease, property deed, or government-issued identification (other than a drivers license or other DMV-issued identification)...
The CCW can be used to meet this second ID requirement. It also exempts one from the FSC and the safe handling demonstration requirements.
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From the OAG's FAQs: https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/pubfaqs#3The CCW can be used to meet this second ID requirement. It also exempts one from the FSC and the safe handling demonstration requirements.
This.

The process was applying for a CCW in another county. Perhaps I misunderstood that.
If you have a SBD CCW and move to OC you have to re-apply.

I must have just missed the entire question. Sorry.
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The process was applying for a CCW in another county. Perhaps I misunderstood that.
If you have a SBD CCW and move to OC you have to re-apply.

I must have just missed the entire question. Sorry.
Where does it say he has a SBD CCW and is moving to OC?
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Hey guys, I just moved to OC from San Bernardino county where I have had a CCW for the past several years. I want to apply in OC but do they have time restrictions on how long you must have lived in the county before you can apply?
This ^^
I mixed the two posts.
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Ya, a CCW is good for buying another firearm. LOL
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I mixed the two posts.
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Ya, a CCW is good for buying another firearm. LOL
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I have started a thread on the California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism forum and am inviting LEOs to share their ideas on the subject of getting a 2A Sheriff elected. As I am in Orange County and there will be an election next year to replace Sandra Hutchens, I am particularly interested in those of you from the OC. However, I don't know that this thread should be limited to just the OC and in it I suggest that perhaps there should be a forum dedicated to electing pro 2A officials including but not limited to Sheriffs in other counties.

The thread to which your thoughts are invited is at http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1376942 .
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Link is dead.
What discussion has been had with their newest sergeant?
Do we even know who is in the running?
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My timeline so far...

2/4/2017 - appointment request
2/6/2017 - appointment set for 9/27/2017
4/17/2017 - appointment moved up to 9/13/2017
9/13/2017 - appointment completed, asked to provide more documentation for good cause and to get Livescan done

Questions for you guys: the only fees that I should expect to pay are the DOJ fee (paid at the time I do the Livescan, $93 plus the cost of the scan), the training fee (varies depending on where I get the training done), and the final Local fee of $111, correct?

Does anyone have a recommendation for a place in Lake Forest to get a Livescan done on the weekend?

Also, I have to say that I really appreciate how helpful the OSCD deputy was that interviewed me. He led me in the right direction for strengthening my good cause statement, and was quick to answer any questions that I had.
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mcbobke, I had a good experience at Secure Live Scan in Aliso Viejo. Not far from Lake Forest. It looks like they open Saturdays from 10-2. 6 Journey Aliso Viejo suite 270

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My timeline...

9/8/2017 - appointment request
9/11/2017 - appointment set for 11/21/2017

I have begun researching info to help me articulate my GCS as best as possible.

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I went to Secure live scan as well. Very quick and easy. Another option is to start your training as well. I went through OC Firearms training and they can put together some package that include Live Scan, OC CCW training and UT/AZ training. They also help you with all of he paperwork and fingerprinting for AZ/UT.

The training met the requirements and was only about 7 hours including range time.
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I just returned from OCSD for my renewal appointment. Hats off to the OCSD CCW unit. The level of professionalism, courtesy, respect, and efficiency cannot be understated. They are fast as well. I was in and out of my appointment in less than twenty minutes, which included them taking a new photograph and signature.

My permit expires in two weeks and my new permit has the issue date on the same date as my current permit expires so it is exactly two years to the day. No lost time between permits!

The new permits also have a new look to them as well. They include your place of business address as well as your occupation. I did not notice this until I left and I am not sure why they list that but its all good.

Kudos to OCSD as they truly do understand the meaning of customer service to those they serve. Awesome experience!!!
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I went to Secure live scan as well. Very quick and easy. Another option is to start your training as well. I went through OC Firearms training and they can put together some package that include Live Scan, OC CCW training and UT/AZ training. They also help you with all of he paperwork and fingerprinting for AZ/UT.

The training met the requirements and was only about 7 hours including range time.

That's what I did....got everything done at once....completed all before the initial interview. Arizona license came 1 month later. At the OCSD interview, the OC Sheriff deputy gave thumbs up for completing all, said the package was ready for submittal and all should be good.

BUT, 2 weeks later, still waiting for the residency check #%$&!.........
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I went to Secure live scan as well. Very quick and easy. Another option is to start your training as well. I went through OC Firearms training and they can put together some package that include Live Scan, OC CCW training and UT/AZ training. They also help you with all of he paperwork and fingerprinting for AZ/UT.

The training met the requirements and was only about 7 hours including range time.
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That's what I did....got everything done at once....completed all before the initial interview. Arizona license came 1 month later. At the OCSD interview, the OC Sheriff deputy gave thumbs up for completing all, said the package was ready for submittal and all should be good.

BUT, 2 weeks later, still waiting for the residency check #%$&!.........
That's what I thought too but when she asked for more documentation for my GC statement I asked if the residency check was done and she said it had been done the day after my initial appointment. I did the same as you and had the Live Scan and training done before the interview. It still took 54 days from interview to final approval.
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That's what I thought too but when she asked for more documentation for my GC statement I asked if the residency check was done and she said it had been done the day after my initial appointment. I did the same as you and had the Live Scan and training done before the interview. It still took 54 days from interview to final approval.
A far sight better than some of the applicants from months back that waited up to a year for processing.
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I have started a thread on the California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism forum and am inviting LEOs to share their ideas on the subject of getting a 2A Sheriff elected. As I am in Orange County and there will be an election next year to replace Sandra Hutchens, I am particularly interested in those of you from the OC. However, I don't know that this thread should be limited to just the OC and in it I suggest that perhaps there should be a forum dedicated to electing pro 2A officials including but not limited to Sheriffs in other counties.

The thread to which your thoughts are invited is at http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1376942 .
I don't know why that link doesn't work, but this one should. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1376942
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The following, and especially the blog entry, gives some idea of David Harrington's position on CCW.

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For those that haven't yet, you really should read the blog entry by David Harrington, candidate for Orange County Sheriff, found at https://crshncrm.wixsite.com/harring...2017/07/26/CCW

A few bullet points:

- Shall Issue. As long as you pass basic requirements set out by state law, the issuing authority shall issue you a permit. There is no good cause requirement.

- Bizarre Legislative Attacks. The State's constant attacks on gun rights make law abiding citizens less safe while lessening the penalties for criminals using firearms in the commission of a crime.

-SCOTUS Needs to Decide. The High Court should have taken up Peruta to clarify the RKBA and hopefully will do so in Grace v. District of Columbia

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Also, I have to say that I really appreciate how helpful the OSCD deputy was that interviewed me. He led me in the right direction for strengthening my good cause statement, and was quick to answer any questions that I had.
Could you elaborate on this please?
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I just returned from OCSD for my renewal appointment. Hats off to the OCSD CCW unit. The level of professionalism, courtesy, respect, and efficiency cannot be understated. They are fast as well. I was in and out of my appointment in less than twenty minutes, which included them taking a new photograph and signature.

My permit expires in two weeks and my new permit has the issue date on the same date as my current permit expires so it is exactly two years to the day. No lost time between permits!

The new permits also have a new look to them as well. They include your place of business address as well as your occupation. I did not notice this until I left and I am not sure why they list that but its all good.

Kudos to OCSD as they truly do understand the meaning of customer service to those they serve. Awesome experience!!!
Big Jake, I was wondering how long was the time between completion of training/submit certificate and when OCSD renewal appointment? Was there an interview? What were the steps needed?

Thanks much!
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Big Jake, I was wondering how long was the time between completion of training/submit certificate and when OCSD renewal appointment? Was there an interview? What were the steps needed?

Thanks much!
I trained on 9/9 and faxed in the training document the same day. On 9/12 I received an e-mail for my renewal appointment for 9/15. Easy peezy and no interview. I handed them a money order for $80.00 and signed the application. In and out in less then twenty minutes with new permit in hand and this included taking a new photograph!
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In many of the time lines I see posted I see the step "Appointment Requested", is this when the renewal application was submitted (but not yet approved).
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2/4/2017 - appointment request
2/6/2017 - appointment set for 9/27/2017
4/17/2017 - appointment moved up to 9/13/2017
9/13/2017 - appointment completed, asked to provide more documentation for good cause and to get Livescan done

I've sent in my renewal app., they requested a couple of doc corrections and I sent those in and now they've gone dark on me. It's been about 3 weeks....
Anyway.......is "Appointment Requested", the same as "application submitted"?
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Anyway.......is "Appointment Requested", the same as "application submitted"?
That would be the date you submitted your request for a appointment. Do you submit your app online when you ask for your appointment?
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I submitted everything on line...........I don't recall seeing anything that said "appointment request".
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So I just moved to OC from TX, and was wondering if a CCW is obtainable or are most rejected?


I saw that you had to make an appointment and have "good cause". I looked at the examples on their website, but I'm not sure if I fit those examples. I don't transport money/valuables, no one has yet made a threat to me/my family, and I work a regular office job. What would other valid examples of good cause be?




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So I just moved to OC from TX, and was wondering if a CCW is obtainable or are most rejected?


I saw that you had to make an appointment and have "good cause". I looked at the examples on their website, but I'm not sure if I fit those examples. I don't transport money/valuables, no one has yet made a threat to me/my family, and I work a regular office job. What would other valid examples of good cause be?




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I submitted everything on line...........I don't recall seeing anything that said "appointment request".
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So I just moved to OC from TX, and was wondering if a CCW is obtainable or are most rejected?


I saw that you had to make an appointment and have "good cause". I looked at the examples on their website, but I'm not sure if I fit those examples. I don't transport money/valuables, no one has yet made a threat to me/my family, and I work a regular office job. What would other valid examples of good cause be?




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So I just moved to OC from TX, and was wondering if a CCW is obtainable or are most rejected?


I saw that you had to make an appointment and have "good cause". I looked at the examples on their website, but I'm not sure if I fit those examples. I don't transport money/valuables, no one has yet made a threat to me/my family, and I work a regular office job. What would other valid examples of good cause be?
Definitely obtainable - make your application and follow the requirements.
There's a thread here dedicated to good cause statements, you might browse that. Grantar2 had an outline of questions that help identify areas of threat of bodily injury or death - that's what your GCS is about - where in your life do you have the potential for that threat?

Everyone has something - it's a matter of articulating that in your statement. It's a CYA requirement for them, and frankly I think the attitude is that if you can't at least articulate your threats or the potential for them then you shouldn't carry.
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Just got my notice that I'm approved and ready for CCW license pickup .
I've been a dentist for 35 years, never thought I'd go this far....but then again, never thought I'd get married for the first time at age 57, either .

Timeline:

5/21 Email request for Interview (given 8/31 appt.)
7/22 Firearms training class, LiveScan, add'l. Az. CCW application, range qualify
8/23 Rec'd Az. CCW license
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10/4 License pickup




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Just got my notice that I'm approved and ready for CCW license pickup .
I've been a dentist for 35 years, never thought I'd go this far....but then again, never thought I'd get married for the first time at age 57, either .

Timeline:

5/21 Email request for Interview (given 8/31 appt.)
7/22 Firearms training class, LiveScan, add'l. Az. CCW application, range qualify
8/23 Rec'd Az. CCW license
8/31 Initial interview @OCSD
9/20 Residence check
9/27 Approval rec'd by email
10/4 License pickup




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What was the big hurry?
LOL, all's still good after 3 years....ask me again in a couple years
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Old 09-28-2017, 9:38 AM
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Just got my notice that I'm approved and ready for CCW license pickup .
I've been a dentist for 35 years, never thought I'd go this far....but then again, never thought I'd get married for the first time at age 57, either .

Timeline:

5/21 Email request for Interview (given 8/31 appt.)
7/22 Firearms training class, LiveScan, add'l. Az. CCW application, range qualify
8/23 Rec'd Az. CCW license
8/31 Initial interview @OCSD
9/20 Residence check
9/27 Approval rec'd by email
10/4 License pickup
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Excellent work. Congratulations and carry safe and always.

You may also want to apply to get the Utah CCW, that'll give you Washington if you're ever in that state.
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Old 09-29-2017, 11:44 AM
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Thank You...that wasn't there the first time I did this a couple of years ago!
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I have a Sig P229 with a magazine safety. The magazine safety has been known to fail and when it does the gun is rendered a paperweight. For this reason some owners disconnect the magazine safety. Will OC approve a a handgun for CCW with the magazine safety disabled?
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Old 10-17-2017, 5:34 PM
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I received a email from Harrington's campaign for Orange County Sherrif that begins:

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Barnes switched his party affiliation from Decline to State to Republican days before he announced candidacy for Sheriff. He then proceeds to attack Harrington’s wife and misconstrue facts.
I don't know if it is proper to post the entire email here. Essentially, it seems that Barnes attacked Harrington's wife for sending emails to six persons about Barnes declining to state any party affiliation since 2011 until just before registering to run for OC Sheriff, when Barnes registered as a Republican.

Barnes attacked Mrs. Harrington for placing the Under Sheriff's wife and family and risk by divulging his home address, which was part of the publicly available information found on the voter rolls.

That is the sum of things. I am not at all concerned with Mrs. Harrington placing the Barnes family at risk by sharing public information in six private emails. I am concerned with whether or not Barnes is hiding his true political stance.

I should note that Barnes has stated that he has "always voted republican". Perhaps, but I question that a thinking person always votes the straight party ticket. I have always been a registered Republican, as were my parents, but even then I sometimes vote for a Democrat.
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