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Old 03-20-2018, 3:58 PM
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Default Gun Friendly Gun Channel. Full30.com. Dump YouTube! Spread the Word.

https://www.full30.com/

Time to dump YouTube and move over to Full30.com. Spread the word. This post will be duplicated and placed on other gun forums to get the word out.

“YouTube has updated it’s policies regarding videos featuring firearms, and it could result in a whole lot of gun-related content being removed from the site.

Here is how the YouTube policy on firearms content now reads:
YouTube prohibits certain kinds of content featuring firearms. Specifically, we don’t allow content that:

• Intends to sell firearms or certain firearms accessories through direct sales (e.g., private sales by individuals) or links to sites that sell these items. These accessories include but may not be limited to accessories that enable a firearm to simulate automatic fire or convert a firearm to automatic fire (e.g., bump stocks, gatling triggers, drop-in auto sears, conversion kits), and high capacity magazines (i.e., magazines or belts carrying more than 30 rounds).

• Provides instructions on manufacturing a firearm, ammunition, high capacity magazine, homemade silencers/suppressors, or certain firearms accessories such as those listed above. This also includes instructions on how to convert a firearm to automatic or simulated automatic firing capabilities.

• Shows users how to install the above-mentioned accessories or modifications.”

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Old 03-20-2018, 5:06 PM
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The Internet is like a town. YouTube is on Main Street; it's where everybody goes to find videos. If we retreat to Full30, we're essentially ceding the heavily-traveled parts of town, and setting ourselves up on a dimly-lit back street that only a few people in town even know about. We're zoning ourselves out of the mainstream.

The objective should not be to have gun videos. The objective should be to have gun videos be mainstream videos.

Though I'm not happy with YouTube's tighter controls on gun videos, the new rules don't seem terribly odious. We'll have to see if it results in a wave of channel shutdowns.
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Old 03-20-2018, 5:27 PM
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The first amendment protects you against curbs to free speech from Congress. That said, Ive seen so many successful lawsuits against places like schools for imposing dress code and speech restrictions that I wonder how a 1A suit would fare against YouTube.

Personally, I don't know why companies play politics because you create enemies and alienate consumers no matter what side you take. A high school friend, who became a millionaire out of high school for his streaming comedy channel on YouTube said the wisest words "Im a business, I refuse to step into politics because it can cost me my livlihood to pick the wrong side".
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From what i remember Full30 is invitation only and they keep the content family friendly to maintain their sponsors. Maybe they've changed their policie, but any channels that are full of controversial content or mature language are unlikely to find a place on full30.
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Youtubes decision will allow a new competitor into thier marketplace, whether it is Full30 or some other company who has yet to emerge. Stupid business decision in my opinion.
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Youtubes decision will allow a new competitor into thier marketplace, whether it is Full30 or some other company who has yet to emerge. Stupid business decision in my opinion.
What he said.

Just because you are #1 and on top of the world, does not mean that you will stay that way. Anybody remember Montgomerywards, Sears, Kmart, My space, ect,ect.

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"manufacturing ammunition" has already closed down some reloading channels. BGs hand loading is really the cause of he Chicago murder rate.
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Youtubes decision will allow a new competitor into thier marketplace, whether it is Full30 or some other company who has yet to emerge. Stupid business decision in my opinion.
YouTube's closest competitor is FaceBook.
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YouTube's closest competitor is FaceBook.
Before facebook, it was myspace... what happened to them?

Like I said in my previous post, youtube has just opened the door for new competitors to enter the market they currently own.
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If you use reddit, they are now beginning to ban gun content as well.

Folks are moving over to https://voat.co/
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Frantically downloading instructional youtube videos...
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Frantically downloading instructional youtube videos...
If anyone is in this boat:

https://rg3.github.io/youtube-dl/


They have a windows version.
Command line is as follows:

youtube-dl "https://youtubelink"
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Youtubes decision will allow a new competitor into thier marketplace, whether it is Full30 or some other company who has yet to emerge. Stupid business decision in my opinion.
Yup - time for a non-partisan YouTube competitor to step up
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The Internet is like a town. YouTube is on Main Street; it's where everybody goes to find videos. If we retreat to Full30, we're essentially ceding the heavily-traveled parts of town, and setting ourselves up on a dimly-lit back street that only a few people in town even know about. We're zoning ourselves out of the mainstream.

The objective should not be to have gun videos. The objective should be to have gun videos be mainstream videos.

Though I'm not happy with YouTube's tighter controls on gun videos, the new rules don't seem terribly odious. We'll have to see if it results in a wave of channel shutdowns.
Or you create Broadway to their Main St.
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Downloading important content may be handy. Other better content will arise
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Youtubes decision will allow a new competitor into thier marketplace, whether it is Full30 or some other company who has yet to emerge. Stupid business decision in my opinion.
NRA TV needs to expand into a social media platform. I’ve written NRA leadership the same and they’ve got to be thinking about it. They’d have the best chances of creating a centralized place for this content because it is a natural monopoly.
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Need a platform that is safe from most filters like websense.
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Until full30 lets any gun channel in, I'm out. They are censoring content worse than YouTube.
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Until full30 lets any gun channel in, I'm out. They are censoring content worse than YouTube.
Wonder if people know that Full30 is invite only.
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Until full30 lets any gun channel in, I'm out. They are censoring content worse than YouTube.
They don't really have a choice to be fair. If they let in every gun channel they'd lose their sponsors.
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We need a youtube replacement. Not some invite only censor strong guntube, which is what full30 is as far as I can tell. Can some new creator just upload their first video on full30 and start to build a following? No, so it's pretty much worthless and has a failing business model without gun channels on youtube to screen and deem worthwhile first from.
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They don't really have a choice to be fair. If they let in every gun channel they'd lose their sponsors.
So basically YouTube's problem? Around and around we go. Lol.
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So basically YouTube's problem? Around and around we go. Lol.
Its almost like companies don't want their productss advertised on videos with controversial content.

Let's remember these channels are getting paid for their videos, If they don't want to deal with censorship of any sort they should host their videos on their own private site.

Full30 has pro 2A supporting business advertisers, doesn't mean they want to be associated with trash gun channels.
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I don’t know much about the inner workings of Full30. But Im “assuming” the content they provide is held on servers.

If this is the case, it can get expensive to host everyones vids. Possibly they are picking and choosing what they host until they can provide a larger storage platform for everybody?

I disagree that the NRA should get involved. I prefer they don’t get involved with advertisers and clicks... They are already vilified enough, they don’t need any more rabbit holes to go down. Or to take their focus off the game.
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An alternative video hosting server to YouTube, that truly respects the 1A, is what is needed. This is not just a gun problem.

Minds.com is an alternative social media site with a free speech focus, but it's not a video hosting service. BUT, everyone should have a Minds account as a last ditch way to find each other when YouTube channels or Patreon accounts get deleted for Wrong Think.

Some think, incorrectly, that their Patreon accounts are safe. They are not. They get deleted for Wrong Think just like most other accounts. Naked Ape comes to mind. The guy got his entire internet income yanked out from under him, and had to go back to a regular job. His crime was hilariously funny biting conservative commentary. He was successfully silenced by Leftist Silicon Valley.

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Just go straight to pornhub!

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-...eos-to-pornhub
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It is simple. Ask the gun and ammo companies to produce educational training videos for full 30 so anyone can get an education about the truth of owning a gun and what to do with it once you take ownership and what your responsibilities are. Have a section for the guys who "think' they are gun experts and let them exercise their rights under the freedom of speech. You could go straight to pornhub and have guns and porn of questionable quality in one spot but you might want to reserve your place in the dog house if you are married (LOL). It is time the gun and ammo companies start investing in their market and putting something out there that people can find and look at. Your going to find a lot of women and men sneaking looks and if they get correct information they have a place to reference and know they are not passing along some FUD they should not be. But be aware that it is not enough to drive you off utube which is socialist anyway and run by a dictator in my personal opinion but they will come after your new home with a hatred because they want you permanently silenced. it is going to be a serious fight from this point forward.
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It is time the gun and ammo companies start investing in their market and putting something out there that people can find and look at.
I see a perfect opportunity for the industry to create their own site. Like Big Red said, you can eliminate tons of FUD!
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This isn't a business decision by YouTube, this is a strategic move to reduce gun ownership in America. It's a decision made by the same people trying to create a world governed by the few. They wish to weaken free speech, weaken personal privacy, weaken our families, weaken our faith, and weaken our right to protect ourselves from crime and the tyrannical government they wish to empower. They are the ones creating the chaos in the world and they are using chaos to justify their fight against our God given freedoms.
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I see a perfect opportunity for the industry to create their own site. Like Big Red said, you can eliminate tons of FUD!
Just as long as they don't use their money to tell reviewers what to say and don't block criticism of their products. We don't want to go from one form of censorship to another.
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The problem is the education, education, education

An entire generation of Americans have been fed with left ideology, including but not limit to, destroying everything they don't agree with using everything including violence.

The movement starts with guns, then free speech, then religion, then everything. Based on the situation, they will win the gun control easily, maybe within 5 years.

For those seeing the hope, look at Florida, used to be most gun friendly place. See if NRA can beat the Florida governor in his Senate campaign.
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As YouTube bans firearms demonstrations, Utah firm launching its own pro-gun video platform

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/03/...ideo-platform/
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