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Try PMing locations instead of naming them publicly for FFFK sakes.
Even if you think it's common knowledge, use some discretion or at least your brains. Letting everyone know only leads to your spot getting shut down! Back to my goddamn beer.
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Don't forget to use the secret knock , the secret hand shake and the secret password which is pastrami on rye hold the pickles when you visit the site that was mentioned above.
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Attachment 393095 this place has a really good deal on shrubs, trees and exotics . Home depot buys from them direct
You should really check them out if your into landscaping.
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Lol purer00r I am glad you enjoy that nursery and thank you for all your hard work in organizing the trimming and pruning of all the trees at this nursery
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No prob! Ya, the maintenance on the place gets out of hand...need more gardeners willing to approach others to maintain their shrubs.
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Lol I wish I had a green thumb but now I pay for some one to trim the trees at Wrens ranch but I will keep in mind that I do have a bit of Mr. Miagi in me and just might see you at the nursery while we are buying whole sale plum trees
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That's a pretty vulgar display of apathy towards those of us perceptive enough to recognize that literally hundreds, if not thousands of people will find their way to an already abused location. These posts will potentially remain for years, like so many others that are revived time and time again.
I guess the more people who find their way means the more trash for some people to organize those feel-good, pat-on-the back parties. Reminiscent of firefighters who turn clandestine arsonists to maintain job security. Flame away, I only concern myself with the opinion of my peers. |
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I am sure glad no one has the directions to Yosemite, Grand Canyon, Lake Tahoe and The Pechanga casino, we wouldn't want any low life's trying to hit a jackpot at our secret slot machine. Those people can keep playing the penny slots at the Soboba.
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It's only a sticky, it's non like it was put there for the world to see or anything. : / Last edited by God Bless America; 02-24-2015 at 2:03 PM.. |
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+1 On what Vaka said. I get so tired of people on here crying about not telling people how to get to a public land to shoot. Steel Peak is a BLM land its not your personal range!!!! If you hate that people dirty it up and dont take care of it dont shoot there thats why there are private ranges. Now dont get me wrong if you have a secret spot that you shoot at by all means keep it secret but Steel Peak is not a secret its a BLM stop being a self righteous son of a ***** and help out new shooters with a place to shoot instead of acting like BLM is a secret!!!!!
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Steele Peak on a Saturday?
How crazy does Steele Peak get on the weekend? I usually shoot at Rainbow Range during the week but I have some friends that all want to go shooting together on a Saturday morning in about a month. Steele Peak is close but I've heard can get a bit busy - I've never been. Is there a lot of space? Should we be OK if we show up around 7-7:30? Trying to decide if it's worth it to deal with a little bit of people (how crowded is it?) to avoid driving all the way out to Barstow.
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No. I’m saying that the caliber of people who are not willing to put in the effort needed to find legitimate shooting spots shouldn’t just be handed the info that true enthusiasts worked to find and take care of. Quote:
I completely and whole heartedly agree with you on this point. However….. not all recreational shooters exhibit practices that are in the best interests of the community that enthusiasts share. An enthusiast willfully seeks out information and training on all facets of proper shooting practices and etiquette. A recreational shooter just has a gun and an old TV they want to use as a target, and is looking for a place to marry the two and leave the mess behind for someone else to worry about. A recreational shooter thinks “hey, I need to find a place to shoot, I’ll google a local gun site”. Inevitably this once or twice a year shooter finds Calguns and shows up and trashes the place they read about. Quote:
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Actually, to a certain extent, “recreational” shooters can specifically be to blame for fires related to shooting. Steel core ammo can directly be related to fires caused by projectiles striking rocks and generating sparks that result in brush fires. “Recreational” shooters that ignore BLM regulations could be to blame here. A fire directly caused by sparks generated by impacts from a projectile is not an “excuse to shut a place down”, it is a definable reason to shut a place down. Hopefully, an enthusiast will follow proper safety guidelines and know his target area and backstop, and insure that they will not hit something that ignites a fire. My point here is “don’t give away the farm”. If someone is serious enough to find a legal shooting spot, let them put at least some effort into it. I have no problem with directing them to the BLM website and saying “here you go”. BLM land is for everyone, as it should be, and anyone should be able to access it. When someone asks for a shooting spot and your reply is “oh yeah, I go to XYZ, check it out!”, do you think they will automatically know it is BLM land? Will they bother to call their local BLM district office and obey the regulations enforced by BLM? This isn't Utopia you know. I’m not trying to win any popularity contests here, but I’m tired of seeing people just handing over to anybody who asks the keys to my home. At least know who you’re talking to for christsake. This is the internet however, and you can’t possibly know who or what kind of person you are giving info to. Look, you don’t know me, would you invite me into your home for dinner? Are you in the practice of letting strangers walk in off the street and use your restroom, how about reach into your ‘frige? |
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hahaha...awesome. Good prices but fairly busy on weekends. Get there early for the best deals. |
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Look here, toOTHroTT, you didn't know my mom, so don't go making assumptions! Afterall, you don't see me going around telling people your ma is from merry ol' England, do ya? (get it? toothrot?)
I know SP is public, I only act like an *** when I'm making a point. I've given info on the place to others, but it's usually in the form of links to BLM pages or direct answers to specific questions not regarding identifiable landmarks or directions. I still stick to my opinion that specific directions or coordinates shouldn't be freely disseminated on the 'net. Call me jaded if you want, but I'm just tired of seeing the place trashed so often. |
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But, I found Steele Peak. It is not that hard, and personally that place makes me nervous and I won't take my family there. When I went I brought trash bags, a rake, shovel and extinguisher. I now belong to a private outdoor range. I'm with the other guys here and willingly would help out a fellow enthusiast. |
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^^^^ Yup. But make sure there's decent tread on your tires if you don't have all terrain tires, there's a hill on the back side that can be difficult to climb back up when it's really dry out there. I've seen more than a couple of vehicles have to make a couple of runs at it to clear the top.
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I going to take you up on that lol can I ride your bike lol
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Yea, if you get there at 7-7:30 you should find a spot no prob. I was there last weekend and it was really busy, we had a calguns clean-up event. Just please keep the place clean, we work hard to keep this place open.
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Thank you, we really cleaned that place last Saturday. Please be aware of the no shooting signs, just don't want any more ricochets going anywhere they shouldn't. Just be safe and always know who's around you. Have fun out there.
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Made the mistake of going out in the early afternoon and normally never would but it was superbowl sunday but really wanted to shoot so went anyways. I figured all the weekend warriors would be at home. But ive never witnessed that kind of stupid before. A group of younger people (im only 23) were blasting ammo. One of them went to change a target and the others began shooting while he was out there joking around. I couldnt believe they would be that stupid. Packed up and left. Im only going out on weekdays from now on or really early in the morning on a weekend and packing up before 11.
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Lol I want to ride like Ricky Bobby " if you ain't first your last " shake and bake
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Is it really that bad? We may want to hike it out to the desert if it's a safety issue going there.
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steele peak on weekends
Attachment 393581 its like Wall Street only backwards on the weekdays it looks like this
Attachment 393582 On the weekends it looks like this. Same concept , some people know what they are doing and some people think they know what they are doing I think I know what I'm doing lol
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