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Old 05-08-2009, 3:46 PM
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Just a heads up ADCO firearms posted this quote on another gun forum...

I dont sell mags to cops in CA either. One cop wanted me to send him GSG Mags. **** him.

If your looking to buy something from the company maybe you should buy elsewhere.. Seems like he's anti CA anti LEO...
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Or maybe he is anti-doublestandard/special privileges.
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I have done business with them in the past, and never had any problems. I was able to purchase uppers and lower parts kits from them. But I never tried to order a lower. Was this on ARF, I would like to see the post.
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Or maybe he is anti-doublestandard/special privileges.
It's not the policy that bugs me it's that the guys a turd...
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I have done business with them in the past, and never had any problems. I was able to purchase uppers and lower parts kits from them. But I never tried to order a lower. Was this on ARF, I would like to see the post.

Yeah It was Arfcom..
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And the LE function of the GSG-5 is what?
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And the LE function of the GSG-5 is what?
Traffic Cop who wants to play SWAT member on weekends?
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And the LE function of the GSG-5 is what?
Guys issued HK's MP5's 93's 91's maybe want to train with the GSG5's budget's are tight, if the department signs off on it then why not?

But I'll say it again, it's not the policy that bugs me it's the attitude.
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Guys issued HK's MP5's 93's 91's maybe want to train with the GSG5's budget's are tight, if the department signs off on it then why not?

But I'll say it again, it's not the policy that bugs me it's the attitude.
Why not use airsoft? At least the puff guns have select fire? A GSG-5 is still going to be semi-auto and that isn' going to train you in controlled bursts.

For the record, I've been doing business with Addco for at least 5 years and they've always treated me with respect.
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It's not the policy that bugs me it's that the guys a turd...
Well then link to the post that demonstrates that, because what you posted just makes it look like he does not want to send something to cops that everyone else can't get, and is irritated that they would try. I can certainly understand that.

It does not seem like they are particularly picky about sending to CA in general either.
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Why not use airsoft? At least the puff guns have select fire? A GSG-5 is still going to be semi-auto and that isn' going to train you in controlled bursts.
For the record, I've been doing business with Addco for at least 5 years and they've always treated me with respect.
Yeah, you can even get a high quality Airsoft MP5 from the same company making the fine GSG-5s and SIG Mosquitos!
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Why not use airsoft? At least the puff guns have select fire? A GSG-5 is still going to be semi-auto and that isn' going to train you in controlled bursts.

For the record, I've been doing business with Addco for at least 5 years and they've always treated me with respect.
Well then make your own decisions on the matter, If they don't want to sell to California L/E then I'll pass the word along and let people decide for themselves if they want to do business with them or not..

You can have a no sales to L/E policy and that's fine, why be a jerk about it?
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Yeah, you can even get a high quality Airsoft MP5 from the same company making the fine GSG-5s and SIG Mosquitos!
Really not the point I'm trying to make here...
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Well then make your own decisions on the matter, If they don't want to sell to California L/E then I'll pass the word along and let people decide for themselves if they want to do business with them or not..

You can have a no sales to L/E policy and that's fine, why be a jerk about it?
Well then your thread title is misleading and borderline libelous, they are not CA unfriendly they just choose not to treat CA LE as "special" compared to the rest of the CA population.
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You can have a no sales to L/E policy and that's fine, why be a jerk about it?
You should research the LEA orgs involvement/support for gun-grabbing here in CA.......
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+1 for Steve @ ADCO, good guy..... I have even been to his shop physically...

RE: hi-cap mag to CA cops... all US businesses have the right to deny business to anyone...

PS. is there a link to "exactly" what he said on ARF? and maybe a little background on the story...... maybe the CA LE pissed him off first? I dunno....

PPS. "ADCO firearms Not CA or L/E friendly" <- I don't think he is not-CA friendly, i used him to get me stuff and build me stuff before! maybe just not CA-LE friendly....
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How come when Barrett refused to service and sell .50s to CA LEOs, he was labeled a hero, but when ADCO do the same they're Anti-CA?
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Just a heads up ADCO firearms posted this quote on another gun forum...

I dont sell mags to cops in CA either. One cop wanted me to send him GSG Mags. **** him.

If your looking to buy something from the company maybe you should buy elsewhere.. Seems like he's anti CA anti LEO...
Thanks for the heads up. Guys obviously anti cop. **** him.
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Thanks for the heads up. Guys obviously anti cop. **** him.
I don't think he's anti-cop, looks like he's anti special privileges for cops.
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I don't think he's anti-cop, looks like he's anti special privileges for cops.
Lets agree to disagree
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Thanks for the heads up, Ill make sure I never do business with him. Just another hater.
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I thought this was an LEO forum?? Airsoft is a joke, .22LR is an inexpensive way to train with duty weapons. So should LEO's not be able to get hi-cap mags for .22 conversions for Sig P226s and .22 mags for AR15's?

If everyone didnt go overboard with their ammo hoarding maybe we could actually find ammo at decent prices train with something other than .22.


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maybe we should get a group buy together from a supporting competitor i could use more 22 rounders. i am not special but will take advantage of the letter of the law. by the way isn't that what oll and everything else we do here is about. if adco doesn't want our business, then i bet there are 10 more that will.
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How come when Barrett refused to service and sell .50s to CA LEOs, he was labeled a hero, but when ADCO do the same they're Anti-CA?
Bingo... Barrett's stand is built on the principle of equal protection.

It would be nice to see the full context of what ADCO said or did at arf.com or where ever.
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Barrett said they wouldn't service the department guns... IE the guns owned by the gov. After the Ca gov went after Barrett.

ADCO refused to sell to an individual officer just a mag... that's a huge difference. Do you think a beat cop has any say in the law or 2A rights? no. ADCO just sounds anti cop.
Yup it's two very different things...Barret is more than happy to offer support to a private LE owner of his rifles. Not to mention the language used by ADCO in the first place.

If he stated he didn't want to make any exceptions that is fine...to actually say **** him is entirely different.
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Yup it's two very different things...Barret is more than happy to offer support to a private LE owner of his rifles. Not to mention the language used by ADCO in the first place.

If he stated he didn't want to make any exceptions that is fine...to actually say **** him is entirely different.
This is the point well put.
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So saying "f*** him" to a guy because he wanted to buy some mags because he is a cop is treating others with respect? No ones slandering him. If that's what he said that's what he said.
Except the OP won't post a link to what he is talking about, so we don't have the whole story.
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It appears the guy that was trying to buy the mags is in compliance with the Cali law. Like it or not, Cali has afforded the purchase of high cap mags to law enforcement personnel. The bias and harsh words displayed toward LEO's (not just in this thread) for taking advantage of the law is unsettling.

I guess the bottom line is we as buyers can do business with any vender we choose.
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I'm backing Adco on this. There is ZERO reason for cops to be allowed to buy high caps when the unwashed masses aren't allowed to buy them.
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There is ZERO reason for cops to be allowed to buy high caps when the unwashed masses aren't allowed to buy them.
Except that thing called the California Penal Code which allows for it. Geez there is a lot of whining on this issue. I don't like the laws anymore than the rest of you. That said, it is what it is and there is not one person on this forum that would not take advantage of that opportunity if it was afforded to them. Myself included!
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Still waiting for a link to the original post...

I'll admit that if he really told the customer to F-off, then that is disrespectful and needs to be dealt with. However, you need to post something to validate this ASAP!!! when making an allegation like this.

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I have to totally agree with Yzernie. I wonder what joe sun, Blackwater Ops, and thedrickel are even doing "contributing" to this forum? It is for LEO's, or for people to ask LEO's a question civilly, not blame cops for the hi-cap ban.

Cops don't make the laws about being allowed to have hi-cap mags. I doubt most cops are against civillians having high-cap mags. Its not a "privelege" to go to the next school, workplace, or mall mass shooting, or enter the home of a whole family slaughtered by the husband. It is a calling. If you have the desire and ability to be a cop, and all that comes with it, you can have the glorious perk of hi-cap mags, or you can possibly move to another state. All the officers remembered at the memorial in Sacramento this past week sure got "special treatment" when they got murdered doing their job.

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I don't think he's anti-cop, looks like he's anti special privileges for cops.
Hey and that's fine, but does he need to be a jerk about it?
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After reading that thread I came to this conclusion...there are only two people who know who the jerk was in the attempted purchase and they are the seller abd the potential buyer. I can understand ADCO's opinion on the rules here but the buyer is lawfully allowed to buy them. I will say, IMHO, ADCO went over the top with his "F-him" comment on a public message board. If he wanted to tell the guy that in their private conversations I say fine but on a public message board that was, again IMHO, inappropriate.
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After reading that thread I came to this conclusion...there are only two people who know who the jerk was in the attempted purchase and they are the seller abd the potential buyer. I can understand ADCO's opinion on the rules here but the buyer is lawfully allowed to buy them. I will say, IMHO, ADCO went over the top with his "F-him" comment on a public message board. If he wanted to tell the guy that in their private conversations I say fine but on a public message board that was, again IMHO, inappropriate.

My thoughts exactly...
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I dont give any special treatment to anyone based on their chosen profession. When someone claiming to be a LEO in CA contacted me about shipping 22rd GSG mags, I said sure, I just need a signed letter by the chief on Dept. letter head that it was for duty use and I would send the mags to the address on the letterhead. The reply I received was that as a LEO, he was exempt from the CA laws and the signed letter by the chief was not necessary. I asked around and found as a cop he was "entitled" to items fellow, unworthy CA gun owning residents could not posess. That, IMO is bull****.

I politely told him to pound sand.

My policy for LE discounts is the same. Dept. Letterhead signed by the chief stating its for duty use, shipped to the Dept. I'm not going to help anyone fund their hobby, because their resume includes the word "Law Enforcement Officer".

It's not a hate thing, I dont treat anyone different based on their occupation. Ditch diggers get the same pricing and service as Dentists or Electrical Engineers....

ETA - yes, Dept. Letterhead for the mags would have gotten them shipped, and still would today.

I said **** him, not **** cops. I'm anti anyone who thinks they are entitled to special privileges because of their job no matter what it is.
I agree 100%. It's not like CA LEO are grossly underpaid or something like AD mil folk are. The mags he was asking for were obviously not for duty use, but he felt that since he was a cop he deserved special treatment and that he was above the law that applied to everyone else. He may actually be above that law, but thankfully business owners still have the free to tell him to F off.
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