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Old 11-11-2017, 1:33 PM
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I had a 1911a1 springfield GI PW9108L. loved the thing. things got tough a few years ago and sold it to a good friend who later moved out of state. Recently we talked and he agreed to sell if back to me for what i sold it to him for. That plus about $200.00 total to bring it back in makes it about $750.00 total, barely worth it but, like i said, it also has sentimental value.
I was just looking at a rock island armory made in Phillipines model of basically the same gun. it would be considerably less to buy that new, less than $600.00 out the door. Im tempted but i dont know tons about those. would this gun be on par in terms of quality and reliability, trigger pull etc???? any hlep woth someone who has personal experience with both would be really appreciated. thanks
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Old 11-11-2017, 1:55 PM
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If it's got sentimental value, go for it.

A couple hundred more for a gun that you know is reliable, where you know it's quirks, and has a history with you is priceless.

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Old 11-11-2017, 2:03 PM
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It is your call due to the sentimentality of the Springfield, but the friends I have with RIA 1911s love them, and two of them have gone to the extent of having adjustable sights put on them because they shoot so well. Both are knowledgeable shooters and instructors, so they must have thought it was worth it to spend the money to upgrade them. That said, it is hard to go wrong with a Springer.
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Old 11-11-2017, 2:05 PM
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Old 11-11-2017, 2:34 PM
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Sentiment makes it a tough to pass up regardless of cost. So you have to ask, what exactly is that sentiment (not saying need to share it here) and how much does that mean to you? Gift from Grandpa or Dad...definitely. First gun you ever bought, definitely. Heck, just because it will bug you not to get it back, definitely. But if you're just trying to talk yourself into it...? I've been guilty of both.
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Old 11-11-2017, 2:42 PM
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well it was my first 1911, i bought it new. so a little sentiment but really its more that i just know that exact gun very well. love the trigger, it fed any kind of ammo i used in it perfect etc. if the rock island gun did all the same and saved me a couple hundred i guess id be just as well to get it.
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You may not be getting the same gun back, if it was heavily used, and if you don't know how it was cared for. Also, I am thinking nostalgia may be playing tricks.

But, if you had some sort of attachment to that particular gun, I would say go for it.

Otherwise, I would get the RIA and then see if $$$ saved can be put toward sights, etc.

Not sure what you have been shooting since you sold your GI spec, but what if you already got used to better sughts?
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Old 11-11-2017, 2:59 PM
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I would say go with the sentimental favorite first, then later on get a RIA as well since they are pretty cheap. I’ve got two RIA”s and they both have been reliable and accurate.
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Old 11-11-2017, 3:00 PM
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i know he only shot a few rounds through it. so im sure its in same shape. i havent shot much since those days either. its possible on the nostalgia. i guess my biggest thought is if this RIA stacks up to my old one. also that my old one will inlcude several extra mags and ammo so that sort of trims down the difference too i guess.
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I had a 1911a1 springfield GI PW9108L. loved the thing. things got tough a few years ago and sold it to a good friend who later moved out of state. Recently we talked and he agreed to sell if back to me for what i sold it to him for. That plus about $200.00 total to bring it back in makes it about $750.00 total, barely worth it but, like i said, it also has sentimental value.
I was just looking at a rock island armory made in Phillipines model of basically the same gun. it would be considerably less to buy that new, less than $600.00 out the door. Im tempted but i dont know tons about those. would this gun be on par in terms of quality and reliability, trigger pull etc???? any hlep woth someone who has personal experience with both would be really appreciated. thanks
I'm assuming that model is still on the roster.

Why not just get a brand new one of the exact same gun?

Buy it when SA is running a rebate or extra gear promo and it's a win win.

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Old 11-11-2017, 3:03 PM
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A few things.

Firstly, you never sell guns. No matter how desperate you are for money, you don’t sell guns. Give blood. Work the night shift. Do gay porn. Do not sell guns.

Secondly, guns are simply metal objects. Except for the plastic ones which don’t count anyways because you’re talking about a 1911, which is a real gun. They have function and they have a value because of their function. They are a utility item. Even fancy shiny ones shoot the same as the ugly beat up guns.

Thirdly, as for sentimental value, there are a few I will never part with. Like my dad’s Smith 357. Or my garands. So yeah, I get it in that some guns are special. But if it was that special you wouldn’t have sold it in the first place. You’d have done gay porn.

I have three rocks. Love all three. They shoot great. They don’t look fancy, but who cares. In fact the compact 45 is one of my favorite pistols. Such an awesome little gun.

Get a rock island. You’ll love it. If your friend was really your friend, he’d sell it to you for what it’s worth and not try to screw you over it. Which if you filmed I guess could fund the rock island??
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I paid $370 out the door for this Rock Island, with less than 100rds through it. I spent another $50 to 'GI' it with GI grips, GI mag from the CMP, and arched mainspring housing. Find one used in good shape and save big $$.

If I was looking to spend $600 I'd get the Springfield A1 Loaded.

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Old 11-11-2017, 4:03 PM
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OP, I had one of those Springfield GI several years back. It didn't take me long to get rid of it. In my opinion, if it will cost you over $700to get it back, its not worth it. Get the RIA instead. Been browsing through several LGS and fondling the RIAs. Fit and finish is better as well as the trigger pull.

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Old 11-11-2017, 4:15 PM
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I have a GI Rock Island myself and I did have some problems with it during the first 400 rounds. But figured out it was more of an ammo issue then the gun itself. Haven't had any problems since and would recommend purchasing one. So another vote for getting the new RIA instead.

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Old 11-11-2017, 4:26 PM
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+$200 to get it back?
Screw that.
Buy the RIA or save a few more bucks and buy a Springfield Loaded.
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Old 11-11-2017, 4:34 PM
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I have a RIA and I have Springfield's, spend the extra money on a better USA made gun.
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Old 11-11-2017, 5:00 PM
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Get both !!!

Was and is the gold standard Calguns answer.

You can always sell the one you like least, maybe even to your friend, and make back most of the money you paid for it.

But most importantly due to the ammo restriction regulations coming up at the beginning of next year you need to also consider do you have enough 45acp in your ammo closet.?

And is your wallet that tight that you should be spending that extra $200 (and more) on ammo now and buying the Rock Armory G.I. later? it'll always be available ...

hopefully.

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The RIA is a solid, reliable 1911 at a great value.

How is the trigger? Well being a 1911, it already has a better trigger than most other designs. Compared to other 1911s? I guess any trigger can use work. It's about average, but remember that even a crappy 1911 trigger is a great trigger.

I'd recommend getting an RIA that is a higher model than the GI version, to get better sights and a beavertail.
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Old 11-11-2017, 5:12 PM
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Your Springfield has a lifetime guarantee. I got mine second hand and it needed work. Springfield installed a new barrel, barrel Bushing and did a trigger jobs on it for free. They even paid the shipping.
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Springfield plus nostalgic FTW
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Old 11-11-2017, 5:22 PM
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tough to discount the emotional connection....but in my opinion, unless it was really a special bond...like from your Dad or Best friend etc i would go new, lots of great sales going on.
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OP, bollocks on sentimental value.

You can buy a new one for $650.
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Good job Skyhawk.

Carried an M1911A1 when I was a kid in the Army a long time ago so really like my Springfield Armory GI.

Rock Island Armory 1911s are good to go and affordable.
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I will soon list my New Springfield "LOADED" Match, night sights, for $600.00, OBO. Also comes with 4 mags.
As you know Springfield is an upgrade from the Philippine made STD. Add also their lifetime warranty.
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Old 11-12-2017, 2:30 AM
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Just go get another 1911... be it an RIA or Springfield.
You will save money and you can call the new one "THE LESSON"... never to sell off your 1911's.
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Old 11-12-2017, 5:32 AM
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Get the SAI back. With ammo prices these days, the gun is the least expensive part of the equation. Plus, “I’m bummed I spent an extra couple hundred bucks on my favorite gun,” said no one ever.
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Old 11-12-2017, 9:15 AM
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thanks for all the input guys. this is one of the reasons why this forum is so valuable. im leaning towards getting my old one back. all in all it will be slightly more money than the new rock island one but im getting several mags and ammo (cant remember how many rounds, couple hundred or so i think). when that is factored in , its probably about the same price. if read many tales on both of these and it seems to me, since they are bottom line models from either manuf. that they can be a little hit or miss on trigger and feeding issues. the one i owned before, i know exactly how it works and everything is good. might change my mind still but im leaning towards just getting my old one back.
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its way harder to get rid/sell something that has sentimental value to it so its obviously the clear choice that you should buy back the springfield regardless of the cost. this shouldn't be a hard decision to make.
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Old 11-15-2017, 8:57 AM
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my ffl just told me that old 1911 of mine is worth way more than i thought it was. def. gonna just buy that one back instead of the RIA one. thanks for all the input everyone
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I'll just leave this here.....

http://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com/s...xjlu!733133925
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Plus $200? I guess he's not that great of a friend then, huh?
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Plus $200? I guess he's not that great of a friend then, huh?

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Recently we talked and he agreed to sell if back to me for what i sold it to him for. That plus about $200.00 total to bring it back in

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my vote is to get your old 1911 back now and later to buy more 1911s. i suggest the next one is an upgrade to this one though.
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I owned a GI after selling my first RIA. The GI had better fit & finish and was also more reliable.
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I have two RIA 1911’s and I say get your old one back.


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I am not from or in Kalifornia and I know I have said it many times:

Get a 1911 education.

1911's are so easy to work on if you know the gun. I cannot recall how many times you folks have gotten rid of a 1911 because the trigger does not suit you. If you folks would take the time to learn and tweak it, the 1911 has one of the best and easiest triggers to smooth and the sear/hammer interface as well.

I have two 1911's left in the inventory and both have 5# or less pull. I don't like anything at 3# or less.

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