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Of course, what they SAY, and what they DO, may be two entirely different things.
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At work I was pitching a company from Europe that is coming to America. They fully intended on setting up shop here in California until the one year left of water report came out. They decided not to move their company here and instead when back east partially due to the lack of water.
Plus, all around south OC the home builders are adding new homes on every square inch of open land. Where's the water coming to supply these new residents?
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The Columbia is already regulated for flow to boost salmon smolt survival, salmon fishing for the native tribes and power generation. We won't be tapping it. Ag in CA uses a lot of water, un-treated water. The early farmers were also the first builders of the levee system, so they were granted early water rights at lower prices. Part of the problem is illogical regulations. The delta smelt never had the levee system as a habitat until we created it. We keep water levels high in an artificial environment. We still have full swimming pools, government buildings have lush landscaping, the wealthiest still use more water in a day on their gardens than I use all month. Every golf course will still be green. See any problems with all of that? We waste water.
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A city planner you aint. You never offer solutions only complaints.
Agricultural In an average year, about 40% of California's water is used for agricultural purposes. Big Ag could use less water if they wanted to. It is projected that California’s population will be almost 50 million people in the year 2020.[63] If the prediction comes true and there is no action to increase the water supply, the difference between water demand and supply would be between 2,000,000 and 6,000,000 acre feet ( http://cis.org/southwest-water-population-growth You say the city dwellers use a fraction of AG but the AG is grown for the city dwellers. Something you overlooked. You keep ranting on about big ag using all the water. Well lets get our facts straight. Food grows where water flows. No water no food. What are all your illegals going to eat if there is no food grown??? Second fact---> People eat crops and meat. Less people less crops and meat need to be grown and LESS WATER HAS TO BE USED! Get rid of the ILLEGALS and limit growth and less food and crops need to be grown. CA can manage its water just fine with LESS PEOPLE. Its a population problem not a water problem. When the population and growth are NOT MANAGED and allowed to go nuts then the state with piss poor managemnt by people like you runs out of water. Less people, less water usage, storage lasts longer, drouts can be planned for. Bam problem solved! STOP building, Stop begging for illegals to come in and get EBT cards. Stop selling our crops overseas. Grow local! Boot out the illegals and grow less food and meat to feed them. And for Gods sake doubling the population in the next 7-10yrs is the single worst thing that can happen to a state that cannot supply water to a doubled population. Prior planning prevents piss poor performance. Quote:
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Regulate the population, that is your solution, get rid of illegals and ebt cards, and don't build anything.
I'm glad to see that you gave this some real thought. Where should we send them, I vote Idaho, lots of room and water up there. The Calguns brain trust hard at work again. |
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Well, in a fight for water, I think Arizona will win and be keeping the Colorado River for ourselves. We've got our own farms to look after;
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Arrest them for walking incorrectly! |
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This forum needs to change its name to AG (Argue guns). |
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It should be titled "the hubris of humans" because as a species we probably spend about 50% of our time fixing problems we create. From the article - Quote:
In the desert regions - 29 palms and Palm Springs - from the article. Quote:
Americans herded into cities like tax sheep. |
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I think it was named after Richard Nixon, it's called "Dick's Law". |
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We can build 100 state of the art desalination plants for the price of one high speed rail boondoggle.
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Unlike Palm Springs we are not pulling water out of ours in the prodigious amounts needed to support the MULTITUDE of golf courses and huge housing developments with green belts, that the Palm Springs/Cathedral City/Rancho Mirage/Palm Desert metropolitan area is covered with. Also due to a fault line the Marine Base is sitting on it's own aquifer which would provide a back up supply in dire circumstances. |
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Lake Mead is dropping fast. Predicted to be 1072' above sea level by June.
http://www.missionscuba.com/lake-mea...elevation.html Nice chart of historical water levels. The B29 I want to dive on was 300' below the surface just a few years ago and now barely 100' below. http://www.advanceddivermagazine.com...s/B29/B29.html I believe at 1075' the really Western water crisis starts. The Colorado River is over allocated and the States below Lake Mead are in for a rude awakening.
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Interesting that Pyramid Lake on the Grapevine was recently removed from this daily conditions page.
http://cdec.water.ca.gov/cdecapp/res...phsMain.action Of course, it always showed as 99% full with water pumped from the aqueduct, ready to refill Castaic and Perris. Maybe the always-full reservoir when others around the state are at fractional capacity was perceived as a PR liability? Anyone drive the Grapevine today? How is Pyramid looking? I'd wager it looks 'full'. Quote:
That must have been a heck of a ride for those guys on that day. On a secret mission developing missile guidance technology, buzzing Lake Mead. Then, BAM!, you're getting wet. Would love to have been a fly on the bulkhead, I'll bet some choice words were uttered.
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Maybe some hope.
http://www.accuweather.com/en/weathe...-rain/44615205 "A significant change in the weather pattern is anticipated for much of the United States during the middle of April. The pattern change could bring some rain and cooler conditions to California and the Southwest, snow for the high country of the Sierra Nevada and Rockies and colder weather for Alaska, according to AccuWeather long-range meteorologists. According to AccuWeather Meteorologist Ben Noll, "There is increasing confidence in the arrival of a Pacific storm late next week, which can bring meaningful rains especially to central and northern California with some rain reaching as far south as Southern California." The rainfall may extend beyond one storm. From mid-April into May, multiple storms loaded with moisture have the potential to track from the Southwest to the Deep South." |
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Day late and a dollar short.
WSJ California Gov. Jerry Brown ordered unprecedented mandatory water cuts across the Golden State after the latest measurements show the state's mountain snowpack, which accounts for roughly a third of California's water supply, has shrunk to a record low of 5% of normal for this time of year. The Democratic governor directed the State Water Resources Control Board to implement mandatory water reductions of 25%.
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California is the land of earthquakes and idiots.
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L.A. overdue for a couple more water main breaks which flood streets and parking garages.
I think 1 of the big things which could be the "straw which broke the camels back" is a quake- break up a few key water lines and we can be in for some serious doodoo. Side note- Read a story in which well users in Danville were running dry and the local water district is/will be turning them away. http://www.mercurynews.com/my-town/c...ource=infinite |
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saw at a park today 2:45 all sprinklers where on flooding out people who had the tables and a party going on
not sure even why they would be on in the middle of the day anyways you would think they come on at night but to ruin that party and after we all must conserve water
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I have a family member in PR That has his own bottle water company and making a killing doing it. The houses next to me all have there water going 3 times a day. people don't seem to care about having no water soon
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what I find funny is Jerry Brown was governor when we had the last major drought and what he do to ensure the next drought wouldn't be so bad. NOTHING like many of California politicians.
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God punishing CA voters for being stupid....twice!
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Pretty much this. If gov was doing its job correctly, they would've planned for future droughts. Instead of proactive they are reactive. It's all by design though. Government loves to manage crisis.
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The national debt and climate change can be used interchangeably, depending on which party you follow.
If you're a Democrat: Oh, come on, man, that national debt ain't real and certainly not as bad as you say it is. Let's leave it for the kids. But don't you dare add any more carbon into the atmosphere! If you're a Republican: Oh, come on, man, that climate change ain't real and certainly not as bad as you say it is. Let's leave it for the kids. But don't you dare add another dollar onto the national debt! |
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For the record I don't believe in anthropogenic global warming, and as I mentioned there was lots of history and data in the article, not that I thought the opinions were valid. |
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I was too young the first time. didn't vote for him either times he ran.
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http://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php Thank your neighbor and fellow gun owners for passing Prop 63. For that gun control is a winning legislative agenda. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Dj8tdSC1A contact the governor https://govnews.ca.gov/gov39mail/mail.php In Memory of Spc Torres May 5th 2006 al-Hillah, Iraq. I will miss you my friend. NRA Life Member. |
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One gallon of water to grow a single almond.
I think I will leave the water running brushing the teeth from now on. /sarc http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...evious-records video |
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How much water is used during the growing/production of a single orange?
13.8 gallons http://www.ecotechwater.com/Company/watertrivia.html |
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This is really funny......
A guy on a gun forum in the hippy liberal compound of sf bay- Cali..... saying people in so cal should move because the drought. ....Shouldnt you move to get away from those stupid stinky dirty hippies? Go to a free state as a gun owner? But alas... this is calguns.... we eat our own. |
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