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Old 08-19-2013, 11:00 AM
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In response to member suggestions and requests over the next couple of days we will be making some changes to the layout of Calguns.net.

We will be adding a few sub forums, moving a few forums, consolidating some forums that should have been in the same category, adding some forums, breaking some multi-topic forums in to separate forums and generally trying to make the forum flow more naturally and give the members things they have asked for.

We looked separating the Marketplace geographically but frankly the questions became where to draw the lines, what really was 'Nor Cal and So Cal' and such.
For this revision we're limiting the Marketplace split to 'Long Guns/Handguns' with locations required in the thread.

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Old 08-19-2013, 12:56 PM
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sounds like a plan

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Nice to see these improvements.
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funny i thought i was losing it, every time i would refresh the pages would change,lol
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Sweet looks like its going to be great!
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Kes, is there a reason why services offered is smashed in with WTB?
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I’m open to change but man I wish we could find that magical NorCal/SoCal line. Seems like every single ammo add I viewed this weekend was from SoCal
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Old 08-19-2013, 5:27 PM
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funny i thought i was losing it, every time i would refresh the pages would change,lol
Now that made me laugh!
Makes all the shuffling worthwhile!

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Kes, is there a reason why services offered is smashed in with WTB?
That may well change, there are some more changes to make and then we'll handle refinements.
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I’m open to change but man I wish we could find that magical NorCal/SoCal line. Seems like every single ammo add I viewed this weekend was from SoCal
I'd love to find that line but as soon as you pick one you get a lot of people saying but I'm in XXXXXX and we're So Cal!'
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There is some weirdness going on, on my phone I see the most recent changes I made but not on my home internet connection.

I suspect that since the database and file server are each multi-server arrangements they are not synced to the changes yet.

I'll chase it down later after the gym.
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How about section CA into 4 sections for Market Place. Northern above Napa, Bay area and Sacto, Central Valley & Central Coast, and So CA. Still large areas but it narrows it down some.
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I love the new structure.
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Stumbled on the changes after some confusion and blamed it on aging.
I like this, more efficient and logical.

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just break up the marketplace the same way we do regional subforums?
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yeah should have done norcal/socal marketplace instead
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Ok, this does confuse me: are there any gas operated rifles that aren't semiauto? Isn't it enough just to have "Semiautomatic"?

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Ok, this does confuse me: are there any gas operated rifles that aren't semiauto? Isn't it enough just to have "Semiautomatic"?

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Legally, don't think so. As far as practicality depending on how it's configured, yes.

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Legally, don't think so. As far as practicality depending on how it's configured, yes.

(think single shot sleds/clips)
Ah, makes sense I guess. Thanks.

The folks with the single shot H&Ks/clone rifles are out of luck, apparently...

As are the folks with single shot UZI/Mac carbines...



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Gonna repost what I chimed in at the C&R Exchange board:

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I have to wonder how much exposure this particular board will get. I know for myself personally, sub forums generally get little notice for me since it's kinda tucked away. It's the same phenomenon as people kinda skimming over stickied threads as well.

Perhaps if this board was publically displayed along in the Marketplace section, it might get more recognition? Separating the private firearms sales boards into long guns and hand guns was a good first step, but I've already noticed that there are some C&R guns in the long guns section rather than here, which would be more appropriate.

As long as this board doesn't get a lot of views, there's not going to be a lot of incentive to post here, since in a way, the number of views you get on a thread helps sell the item you are trying to sell. I don't mind that this forum will likely become an insider trading club amongst other Crufflers, but I think it would help if this particular board gets more public exposure with the rest of the Calguns community.
Thanks for creating a specific sub forum for us C&R collectors, however, I think at least a redirect link to the C&R Exchange on the Marketplace section will help in gaining exposure and directing traffic where it should go, instead of Long Guns.
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So we no longer have the gunsmithing / how-to forum? Bummer, that was one of my faves and very helpful.
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So we no longer have the gunsmithing / how-to forum? Bummer, that was one of my faves and very helpful.
It's still here, it just got moved in with the other Interest & Activities.

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Thanks for creating a specific sub forum for us C&R collectors, however, I think at least a redirect link to the C&R Exchange on the Marketplace section will help in gaining exposure and directing traffic where it should go, instead of Long Guns.
The C&R Exchange is a direct result of numerous request by users of the C&R forum for their own exchange forum.
It may or may not be effective time will tell but the members who frequent that forum asked for it so we'll give it a go.
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I'd love to find that line but as soon as you pick one you get a lot of people saying but I'm in XXXXXX and we're So Cal!'
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Already digging the changes Kes!
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The C&R Exchange is a direct result of numerous request by users of the C&R forum for their own exchange forum.
It may or may not be effective time will tell but the members who frequent that forum asked for it so we'll give it a go.
And a welcome change at that

I can't help but think it would get more exposure if it was linked to from the general marketplace as well, but you won't hear me complain about having one.

Ha I log in for the first time in a few days, I thought I must've had a stroke or something
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I'm curious about what happens when an ad has both "handguns" and "long guns" for sale in the same thread?? While I was searching in the old style I might see a long gun that would change why I was looking in the first place, Happened a lot to me, LOL!
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in the market place can there be a WTB that's solely directed to Dealers? say there's a gun a want. but I want to ask a SoCal dealer! I doubt they check WTB
or even an online dealer

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Great job Kestryll! I like the new format for the forums, especially the private reloading sales and C&R exchange. Thank you!
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I like everything so far!

I would suggest when you are fine tuning to finally delete 'san jose' under northern california - since SJ conversation is part of the Bay Area group and SJ is locked so no one can post, its just sitting there empty.
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Lile the change but took me a minute to figure out all old posts stayed in long gun section. What about all handguns currently posted in long gun forum, wont newbies miss these? Can I re-post in hand gun forum? Thanks.
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I like the seperation...cool changes Kesryll.....magic line in my line of work..sales...has pretty much always been Montery and Fresno up Northen Cal....any cities just south of there are to small a population to make a big an impact....to all those who are thinking it yes the line is low but best break in population and distance...beverage territories...
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If you kill Off-Topic, you'll reduce the mod workload (and bans) by 60-80%
LOL, that's not how off topic sections on forums work. OT filters the crap out of the rest of the sections(Kestryll even admitted that, multiple times now) it'd mean cleaning up a bunch of off topic nonsense from elsewhere increasing moderator workload or issuing bans for people continually posting OT threads.
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