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Old 03-04-2018, 1:29 PM
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Something to consider if you are carrying in church and things get real. This guy wasn't carrying, but he disarmed a bad guy and was then mistakenly shot by the police. Have a plan how not to get shot when the cavalry arrives, should the shooting be over or still taking place.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...m_npd_nn_tw_ma
Bingo.

That is going to be an issue in any defensive shooting, but it is much simpler in a home situation than it is in a large venue such as a church, office, or mall where there may be multiple shooters.
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A just gov't will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just gov't. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.
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Old 03-04-2018, 1:32 PM
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An organized group, of which having a CCW is required, could be construed as a volunteer armed security team.

This may or may not be an issue for the IA... Kern County looks favorably upon CCW being a requirement for employment, San Bernardino forbids using the CCW for employment.
Thanks, That is exactly what I was getting at.
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Old 03-04-2018, 1:42 PM
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A good church security team with a plan sounds like a militia the founders had in mind. Creating the 2nd amendment
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Old 03-04-2018, 2:50 PM
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A good church security team with a plan sounds like a militia the founders had in mind. Creating the 2nd amendment
I don't disagree.

Your issuing agency might.
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A just gov't will not be overthrown by force or violence because the people have no incentive to overthrow a just gov't. If a small minority of people attempt such an insurrection to grab power and enslave the people the RKBA of the whole is our insurance against their success.
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Old 04-10-2018, 9:57 PM
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Thank you to all of you who carry in church. Though I live in Calif now, I am from Colorado Springs and attended New Life Church when Matthew Murray came to our campus and shot 4 people.

God is good, and he uses good people like Jeanne Assam to stop evil.

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Old 04-12-2018, 8:17 PM
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Yes, carry...concealed of course, unless youre a uniformed officer. We dont want to trigger the snowflakes.
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Old 04-20-2018, 10:02 AM
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In Ca you can c.c in church without a ccw ... you have to get permission from owner or person in charge ...
I confirmed it with 3 Leo ‘s , a ccw trainer, a lawyer and my sheriff....
Do your research and get it in writing... You can’t c.c off the property
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Old 04-21-2018, 9:56 AM
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In Ca you can c.c in church without a ccw ... you have to get permission from owner or person in charge ...
I confirmed it with 3 Leo s , a ccw trainer, a lawyer and my sheriff....
Do your research and get it in writing... You cant c.c off the property
This is good to know. I will bring it up with my safety team. ** Ive had a couple of members ask about getting CCWs. Encouraging, especially for Unitarians!
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Old 04-21-2018, 12:24 PM
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This is good to know. I will bring it up with my safety team. ** Ive had a couple of members ask about getting CCWs. Encouraging, especially for Unitarians!
When I was thinking about getting my ccw I went to my pastor to see if he mind if I carry in church . He was more then open to the idea . I was also researching church security and safety for months. I went to training courses... Then the Texas church shooting happen...
After a lot of help from gun pros , Leo and a lawyer we started every slow... great thing there is a lot of great church security programs out there....
Talk with you insurance company your church use. And if everyone can get ccws
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