Senate Intel Committee Report Alleges NRA as Conduit for Russia Influence Campaign

[njineermike]

Originally Posted by TRICKSTER

That would be the same people that approved the sale of about 20 percent of U.S. uranium production capacity to that same "hostile foreign power".
The NRA does not control who enters the country. At the time it happened, the Obama State Department did.

If the state department felt this person was actually an agent of a foreign government, and didn't inform the NRA, but still let them use the NRA as a means of access to the US, would that not be considered entrapment?

[RozaShanina]

Originally Posted by TRICKSTER

That would be the same people that approved the sale of about 20 percent of U.S. uranium production capacity to that same "hostile foreign power".
The NRA does not control who enters the country. At the time it happened, the Obama State Department did.

Oh puleeze, don't dust off that stupid canard of the right wing noise machine of Hillary Clinton selling weapons grade uranium out of the back of a pickup truck in the parking lot of a Washington DC pizza parlor. (I notice you edited your post to try to make it actually look almost plausible). That never made sense then and it makes even less now. If you really want to point out Hillary's corruption, you might want to look at the Clinton Foundation and their dealings with sketchy operators like Saudi Arabia. But then you would have to look at the business dealings of your Dear Leader who was so bad at business that the only people who would have anything to do with him are the Russians, the Mob, and the Saudis whose investment is paying off for them handsomely right now.

Of course, that has nothing to do with the topic at hand but since you have no response to what I have posted I guess it's the best you can do. Keep trying. You may make a valid point someday.

But you are right the Obama Administration should never have listened to the NRA when they vouched for Maria Butina.

[TRICKSTER]

Originally Posted by RozaShanina

Oh puleeze, don't dust off that stupid canard of the right wing noise machine of Hillary Clinton selling weapons grade uranium out of the back of a pickup truck in the parking lot of a Washington DC pizza parlor. (I notice you edited your post to try to make it actually look almost plausible). That never made sense then and it makes even less now. If you really want to point out Hillary's corruption, you might want to look at the Clinton Foundation and their dealings with sketchy operators like Saudi Arabia. But then you would have to look at the business dealings of your Dear Leader who was so bad at business that the only people who would have anything to do with him are the Russians, the Mob, and the Saudis whose investment is paying off for them handsomely right now.

Of course, that has nothing to do with the topic at hand but since you have no response to what I have posted I guess it's the best you can do. Keep trying. You may make a valid point someday.

But you are right the Obama Administration should never have listened to the NRA when they vouched for Maria Butina.

I'm curious. Is there actual documentation showing that the NRA contacted the Obama State Department and vouched for Butina, or are you still pulling your Herr Goebbels BIG LIE routine?

[TRICKSTER]

Interesting that someone who wants to pretend that they are intelligent would push the idea that the Obama State Department would let the NRA tell them to let someone, who according to some of those same supposedly intelligent people, was a known Russian Operative into the Country to work against the interest of the United States.
Who knew that the Obama Administration was a puppet of the NRA.

[dustoff31]

Originally Posted by Freedom2a

posted to her LiveJournal blog from Indianapolis, where she was attending the NRA’s annual “congress” as the leader of the Right to Bear Arms organization, which advocates looser gun control policies in Russia.

“I only got a visa to the United States for annual NRA meetings on the third try. Before that, I missed these congresses for two years because of the opposition of the American government bureaucracy,” said the post, which includes photos of her with NRA leaders and other attendees.

“Finally, the leadership of the NRA itself [came] to visit us, after which it was possible to prove that I would not stay in the US, and I went there on business,” Butina wrote at the time, referencing a trip to Moscow several months earlier by former NRA President David Keene; a prominent NRA booster and longtime Republican operative, Paul Erickson; and other gun rights luminaries.


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I think Trickster could have googled this in 10 seconds. But he’s too busy playing NRA cuck still.

NRA still has not denied ANY of this. They know the goods are already out there.
Tick tick tick tick..

So who vouched for her student visa to attend American University in 2016? Certainly the government must have been onto her by then.

[BajaJames83]

I think its about time we get some fires with this big double nothing burger....
**** or get off the pot already Libs....

[TRICKSTER]

Originally Posted by Freedom2a

posted to her LiveJournal blog from Indianapolis, where she was attending the NRA’s annual “congress” as the leader of the Right to Bear Arms organization, which advocates looser gun control policies in Russia.

“I only got a visa to the United States for annual NRA meetings on the third try. Before that, I missed these congresses for two years because of the opposition of the American government bureaucracy,” said the post, which includes photos of her with NRA leaders and other attendees.

“Finally, the leadership of the NRA itself [came] to visit us, after which it was possible to prove that I would not stay in the US, and I went there on business,” Butina wrote at the time, referencing a trip to Moscow several months earlier by former NRA President David Keene; a prominent NRA booster and longtime Republican operative, Paul Erickson; and other gun rights luminaries.


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I think Trickster could have googled this in 10 seconds. But he’s too busy playing NRA cuck still.

NRA still has not denied ANY of this. They know the goods are already out there.
Tick tick tick tick..

From the same article that you are quoting here.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...d-visas-734946

Butina did not say in her 2014 post whether NRA officials took any actions to help her overcome the U.S. government’s objections to her visa requests.

Next time make an attempt to read and understand not only what I posted, but also the full article that you link and quote. Maybe then you will not make such a fool of yourself.

So once again, is there actual documentation showing that the NRA contacted the Obama State Department and vouched for Butina, or are you still pulling your Herr Goebbels BIG LIE routine?

[RozaShanina]

Originally Posted by TRICKSTER

From the same article that you are quoting here.
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...d-visas-734946



Next time make an attempt to read and understand not only what I posted, but also the full article that you link and quote. Maybe then you will not make such a fool of yourself.

So once again, is there actual documentation showing that the NRA contacted the Obama State Department and vouched for Butina, or are you still pulling your Herr Goebbels BIG LIE routine?

Butina posted on social media that she was turned down for a visa twice until she wined and dined NRA officials. Then she got her visa. When asked about their relationship with Butina:

The NRA did not respond to requests for comment about its relationship with Butina. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/...d-visas-734946

Now obviously Butina saw a relationship between her wining and dining the big wigs at the NRA and her getting a visa. And rather than deny it helped Butina get a visa the NRA refused to comment. But you don't see any connection between the two events. Must be coincidence -- yup, pure coincidence.

I sure hope you got the number of that turnip truck. LOL

Face it, Sparky, all you and your little buddies got is name calling.

[TRICKSTER]

Originally Posted by RozaShanina

Butina posted on social media that she was turned down for a visa twice until she wined and dined NRA officials. Then she got her visa. When asked about their relationship with Butina:

Now obviously Butina saw a relationship between her wining and dining the big wigs at the NRA and her getting a visa. And rather than deny it helped Butina get a visa the NRA refused to comment. But you don't see any connection between the two events. Must be coincidence -- yup, pure coincidence.

I sure hope you got the number of that turnip truck. LOL

Face it, Sparky, all you and your little buddies got is name calling.

Your beliefs and speculation is not documentation or evidence. So once again, is there actual documentation showing that the NRA contacted the Obama State Department and vouched for Butina, or are you still pulling your Herr Goebbels BIG LIE routine?

[RozaShanina]

Originally Posted by TRICKSTER

Your beliefs and speculation is not documentation or evidence. So once again, is there actual documentation showing that the NRA contacted the Obama State Department and vouched for Butina, or are you still pulling your Herr Goebbels BIG LIE routine?

Hard to believe that you are in Law Enforcement or claim to be. You clearly do not understand what constitutes "evidence". We did this dance in the Kavanaugh thread. No point in further discussion.

[Citadelgrad87]

Originally Posted by RozaShanina

Hard to believe that you are in Law Enforcement or claim to be. You clearly do not understand what constitutes "evidence". We did this dance in the Kavanaugh thread. No point in further discussion.

There never is. You are a closed minded leftist zealot with delusions of relevance on a board that leans conservative.

You cling to any thread of accusation, but only as long as it is against a conservative. If it is an allegation against a leftist, nit even a videotaped confesion will convice you. You are a textbook example of selective perception.

Oh, i know, sling a racial slur or attakc my alma mater.

[TRICKSTER]

Originally Posted by RozaShanina

Hard to believe that you are in Law Enforcement or claim to be. You clearly do not understand what constitutes "evidence". We did this dance in the Kavanaugh thread. No point in further discussion.

Otherwise known as you have no knowledge of any documentation showing that the NRA contacted the Obama State Department and vouched for Butina.
And you still haven't explained why the Obama State Department let a known Russian Operative into the country to infiltrate the NRA and work against American Interests. Your trolling is becoming quite pathetic. I do hope that you aren't a paid troll because if you are, someone is getting ripped off.

[TRICKSTER]

Originally Posted by Freedom2a

https://www.thedailybeast.com/kremli...el-report-says

"Kremlin Blessed Russia’s NRA Operation, U.S. Intel Report Says
When Maria Butina and Alexander Torshin’s brought NRA bigwigs to Moscow, it wasn’t a rogue mission. It was okayed from the very top, according to a report reviewed by The Beast."

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"“This reporting indicates that Alexander Torshin was working with the blessing of the Kremlin, at a minimum,” one European intelligence official told The Daily Beast. The official added that this reporting is consistent with his group’s understanding of how the Kremlin operates.

“The NRA is quite powerful, so when you look to influence U.S. politics, you should consider them as a convenient target,” the official added.

The report, published last year, is based on conversations that happened in 2015, before NRA leaders visited Moscow on a trip arranged by Torshin and Butina. The document does not specifically name the NRA or the Republican Party, but its context makes clear it is discussing those two American organizations. (American intelligence reports generally do not name U.S. persons or organizations for privacy and legal reasons.)"..

And?
There is no question that the Russians targeted the NRA and other conservative groups. There is also no evidence that these groups knew that they were the target of Russian operatives or intentionally worked against the interest of the United States.
The real question should be "Why didn't the Obama Administration do anything to protect these American organizations and stop it?"

Still waiting for you to show documentation that shows where NRA officials pressured the Obama State Department to let a Maria Butina into the country and still waiting for you to explain why the Obama State Department let a according to you "know Russian Operative" into the united States to infiltrate the NRA.

[TRICKSTER]

Originally Posted by Freedom2a

So you are going to maintain the NRA had no idea what they were doing?

Seriously? The truth is just a matter of time from being out there in plain sight.

Until then, trickster can keep stroking himself to the NRA.

Seriously? Are you going to keep making unfounded accusations, because you have been asked several times to provide evidence and instead you keep playing games and making predictions that are not supported by any facts.

Still waiting for you to show documentation that shows where NRA officials pressured the Obama State Department to let a Maria Butina into the country and still waiting for you to explain why the Obama State Department let a according to you "know Russian Operative" into the united States to infiltrate the NRA.

The truth is that you are a and it's just a matter of time before you get banned again for some of your comments. It's all in plain sight.

[Offwidth]

Morons are still in full force around here I see. Freedom2a?

[dfletcher]

Originally Posted by Offwidth

Morons are still in full force around here I see. Freedom2a?

If you read posts elsewhere all the poseurs play a similar game. Bounce around the forum, stir it up and then disappear for a bit. Especially when asked to prove a point rather than insinuate.

[Offwidth]

But they post on this forum, that allowed me and other Russians to post here. So they are supporters of the vast Russian conspiracy.

Also of the vast Jewish conspiracy - as I know of at least one Jew posting here.

[Doheny]

From today’s news:

https://apple.news/AJiVOdeYFQ5iebDm0w5djsw


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[tenemae]

Originally Posted by Doheny

From today’s news:

Special counsel Robert Mueller's team has expressed interest in the Trump campaign's relationship with the National Rifle Association.

What the **** does that have to do in any significance to anything? Conservatives and the NRA have overlapping values. Which republican president in the last century hasn't "had ties" or "been in talks" with the NRA??

Do you think this is news because you are 100% convinced that the NRA was a demonstrable political arm of Putin? Are you that detached from reality? Because you'll convince absolutely nobody outside of DU of your crazy conspiracy theory.

[Citadelgrad87]

I see the usual suspects have fled the thread.

Typical.

[TRICKSTER]

Originally Posted by Citadelgrad87

I see the usual suspects have fled the thread.

Typical.

Obviously their employers have seen how ridiculous and ineffective their post are and have stopped paying them to post here.

[Doheny]

Originally Posted by tenemae

What the **** does that have to do in any significance to anything? Conservatives and the NRA have overlapping values. Which republican president in the last century hasn't "had ties" or "been in talks" with the NRA??



Do you think this is news because you are 100% convinced that the NRA was a demonstrable political arm of Putin? Are you that detached from reality? Because you'll convince absolutely nobody outside of DU of your crazy conspiracy theory.

Looks like you need a chill pill. I simply posted an article related to the OP topic. Sorry if that hurts your snowflake-like sensitivities. I’d post a head-in-the-sand meme but it’s not worth the effort.


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[Citadelgrad87]

Originally Posted by TRICKSTER

Obviously their employers have seen how ridiculous and ineffective their post are and have stopped paying them to post here.

I knew he was a non hack.

Cue curly Bill. Good riddance.

[njineermike]

Originally Posted by TRICKSTER

Obviously their employers have seen how ridiculous and ineffective their post are and have stopped paying them to post here.

The schedule dictates they have to be wrong about something on another subject right now. They'll return to being wrong here at a later point in time.

[Citadelgrad87]

Originally Posted by njineermike

The schedule dictates they have to be wrong about something on another subject right now. They'll return to being wrong here at a later point in time.

I think hes gone, baby, gone, not just not here.

My quotes of “his” posts on this thread are still here, but none of “his” posts are.

I suspect a tantrum/rage quit, probsbly inevitsbly followed by a skulking back with a new account. If you search his user name, the name comes up but it doesnt find any posts, which is fine becasue in his entire time here he never posted a single word worthy of comsideration.

[tenemae]

Originally Posted by Citadelgrad87

I think hes gone, baby, gone, not just not here.

My quotes of “his” posts on this thread are still here, but none of “his” posts are.

I wonder if that's why the page indexing is screwed up on this thread (i.e, says there are 8 pages, but the 8 link leads back to 7 as if there are phantom posts which add to the post count)

[Noble Cause]

Originally Posted by Citadelgrad87

I think hes gone, baby, gone, not just not here.

My quotes of “his” posts on this thread are still here, but none of “his” posts are.

I suspect a tantrum/rage quit, probsbly inevitsbly followed by a skulking back with a new account. If you search his user name, the name comes up but it doesnt find any posts, which is fine becasue in his entire time here he never posted a single word worthy of comsideration.

What ?!

CarlosDanger aka Soviet Sniper Woman RozaShanina
Deleted all his posts and apparently Rage Quit ?!


Hahahaha !!!




Well, that was Fun while it lasted....

Let's Compare Carlos Danger's Legacy here to another Anti-NRA
Ideologue, and The Law of Unintended Consequences:




So Farewell, Carlos, and Thanks for all the
New NRA Memberships !




Noble

[Citadelgrad87]

Originally Posted by Noble Cause

What ?!

CarlosDanger aka Soviet Sniper Woman RozaShanina
Deleted all his posts and apparently Rage Quit ?!


Hahahaha !!!




Well, that was Fun while it lasted....

Let's Compare Carlos Danger's Legacy here to another Anti-NRA
Ideologue, and The Law of Unintended Consequences:




So Farewell, Carlos, and Thanks for all the
New NRA Memberships !




Noble

Anyone elses thread page count strange?

I think his self deletion broke the matrix.

I show that there is another page, page 8 to be exact, after this page, but there are only two posts on page 7.

And hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaha.

[Noble Cause]

Originally Posted by Citadelgrad87

Anyone elses thread page count strange?

I think his self deletion broke the matrix.

I show that there is another page, page 8 to be exact, after this page, but there are only two posts on page 7.

And hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaaha.

Yeah, my browser was showing a #8 page that was Not accessible,
and now its showing a #9 Page that I'm not able to access, his mass
deletions seemed to have created an Extra Page of Nothingness,
comparable to what his original posts Represented ...

Its CarlosDanger's last childish act before he Runs to his Safe Space,
where he doesn't have to listen to Facts and other Viewpoints.




Noble

[njineermike]

Don't worry. That clown has plenty of fake sleeper accounts.