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Old 01-30-2018, 9:58 AM
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I'd like to see "thread crapping" in the marketplace legalized.

Where a person is selling a common, in-demand part with 9 pages of "BTT", and no/marginal price adjustments, they are clearly doing this for sport.

Any common item, priced properly, is gone the same day here.

The classifieds section is not for the sellers entertainment, and people using it as such should be called out publicly.
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I'd propose 7 day window. Not everyone peruses the forum multiple times a day?
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If it was allowed, everything else would get buried because the entire first page would be full of 19X, VP9s, and Colt 1911s at $2500 with guys repeatedly harassing the sellers.
If you don't like the sale price, send the seller a PM , and just move on



Or start a different thread about it in OT
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Or start a different thread about it in OT
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If it was allowed, everything else would get buried because the entire first page would be full of 19X, VP9s, and Colt 1911s at $2500 with guys repeatedly harassing the sellers

Or maybe we wouldn't get those ads cluttering up the marketplace...
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Or maybe we wouldn't get those ads cluttering up the marketplace...
No, you would get 100x more of them. If your proposal is to turn the marketplace into 'entertainment', you can expect a hundred troll sale threads per day, and plenty of responses in each. You would turn the marketplace into OT. Everything really for sale would always be many pages back.

If a seller follows the rules and only bumps once per day, I don't care that they have the patience to hold out and wait years for the buyer they are looking for.
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I like the 7 day no thread crapping idea, then its a free for all. But there is no way to realistically enforce that idea.
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I have a better idea, how about allowing posts in OT to directly link to and ridicule posts in classifieds? That way the overpriced item won't get bumped, and we can have our fun
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I have a better idea, how about allowing posts in OT to directly link to and ridicule posts in classifieds? That way the overpriced item won't get bumped, and we can have our fun
It's usually pretty obvious without linking anything which items people are talking about in OT when they start a thread for this purpose.
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OP, maybe the seller doesn't want to sell to you because you only have 33 posts and a zero iTrade score?

If you don't like what he is selling, don't buy it. If you can get a better deal elsewhere, then do it.
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OP, maybe the seller doesn't want to sell to you because you only have 33 posts and a zero iTrade score?

If you don't like what he is selling, don't buy it. If you can get a better deal elsewhere, then do it.


No, I haven't had any refusals. I'm just easily annoyed. Didn't really expect the idea to take off, but I had to put it out there anyway.
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No, you would get 100x more of them. If your proposal is to turn the marketplace into 'entertainment', you can expect a hundred troll sale threads per day,
Starting with some guy trying to sell $1000+ Ruger Mk IVs or $800+ Glocks
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I'd like to see "thread crapping" in the marketplace legalized.

Where a person is selling a common, in-demand part with 9 pages of "BTT", and no/marginal price adjustments, they are clearly doing this for sport.

Any common item, priced properly, is gone the same day here.

The classifieds section is not for the sellers entertainment, and people using it as such should be called out publicly.

Dumb idea. If buyer agrees to seller's price, it's patently none of your 'effin business. Who are you to say what's a good, bad, or indifferent deal between two other people?

The continued "btt" in additional threads is idiotic, to say the least. It's far better to do it like it's done on arfcom...check out the equipment exchange there and I think you'll understand...
AR15.com Equipment Exchange

Bumping FS, WTB, WTT, etc. happens by the op simply editing the original post. Price can be changed, an extra period (.) added to the text, etc. That's allowed only once in a 24 hour period.

Posts not related to the ad are not allowed...for instance, "cool gun", "wish I had the money", "I've got a gun just like that", "you're asking too much for that gun"
and other crap you see here. Posting junk like that will get ya banned.

Questions about the ad are allowed only as PM's or emails to the original poster. That definitely cuts down on Calguns' 2-3 pages of crap you have to wade through.
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I'd like to see "thread crapping" in the marketplace legalized.

Where a person is selling a common, in-demand part with 9 pages of "BTT", and no/marginal price adjustments, they are clearly doing this for sport.

Any common item, priced properly, is gone the same day here.

The classifieds section is not for the sellers entertainment, and people using it as such should be called out publicly.
How about you try this?
Go here,
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/payments.php
for access to the lounge. We talk about this all the time over there.
Plus, you'll actually be helping out instead of wanting to start crapping.
Understand?
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Calguns' 2-3 pages of crap you have to wade through.
You don't have to wade through anything though.
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You don't have to wade through anything though.
No, you don't HAVE to, unless it's something you're interested in buying or selling.
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That said, does anything I posted (post #15) seem doable to you??
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I don't think you should ever be able to post in the marketplace until you have at least 100 posts on this form. To show that your legitimate user and have some respectability on here. I think that would eliminate a lot of the scammers.
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Maybe start a "Marketplace SHAME" thread in OT where you can link all the ads that are ridiculous so everyone can make fun of them without breaking the rules?

I'd definitely participate!
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I don't think you should ever be able to post in the marketplace until you have at least 100 posts on this form. To show that your legitimate user and have some respectability on here. I think that would eliminate a lot of the scammers.
I think this is a great idea!
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I think this is a great idea!
until the new accounts clutter up all the other forums with a "me too" type response to everything. Or a super glib response to every thread like many trolls do now.

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Maybe start a "Marketplace SHAME" thread in OT where you can link all the ads that are ridiculous so everyone can make fun of them without breaking the rules?

I'd definitely participate!
Should not be an issue. There's a similar thread in the Contributors Lounge that's 3 pages long at this time.
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Should not be an issue. There's a similar thread in the Contributors Lounge that's 3 pages long at this time.
You of all people should know. What happens in the Contributors Lounge stays the the Contributors Lounge. Now the NSFW/NSFL thread is going to get deleted. Years of nudie pics/ videos are going to get nuked. And the "Name That Sack" thread!? Gone.

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Should not be an issue. There's a similar thread in the Contributors Lounge that's 3 pages long at this time.
And if it remained as civil and mature as the CL thread, it would not be a problem.

But it would not, so it will be.
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I'd like to see "thread crapping" in the marketplace legalized.

Where a person is selling a common, in-demand part with 9 pages of "BTT", and no/marginal price adjustments, they are clearly doing this for sport.

Any common item, priced properly, is gone the same day here.

The classifieds section is not for the sellers entertainment, and people using it as such should be called out publicly.
It's no different than any other FREE MARKET ENVIRONMENT! That's the way it works and if you don't like it, move on to another ad. You are not forced to buy anything and a seller is not forced to set a particular price. The FREE market will adjust the price by the consumers themselves. But thread crapping would cause the marketplace to turn into a cluster fudge which is not the purpose of its existence. As already said you would see the same few ads that have nothing in them except bickering and name calling. It serves nothing.
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I'd like to see "thread crapping" in the marketplace legalized.

Where a person is selling a common, in-demand part with 9 pages of "BTT", and no/marginal price adjustments, they are clearly doing this for sport.

Any common item, priced properly, is gone the same day here.

The classifieds section is not for the sellers entertainment, and people using it as such should be called out publicly.
WAA WAA WAA.

I needed a master cylinder for a 1940 MACK truck. When I finally found one the seller had been listing it for sale in his state for almost 2 years with no takers. By your logic he should have lowered his price or taken his ad down..

Truth is the right buyer just hadn't found his add yet. I would have gladly paid him double his price because I needed what he was selling.

If people like you had thread crapped him he might have given up and thrown the only new in box factory master cylinder for my truck in the world into the trash and given up.

If you don't want or need someone else's unicorn just move on. They will either sell it nor they won't at their price but it's none of your business.

I'm really amazed you think it is.
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I'd like to see "thread crapping" in the marketplace legalized.

Where a person is selling a common, in-demand part with 9 pages of "BTT", and no/marginal price adjustments, they are clearly doing this for sport.

Any common item, priced properly, is gone the same day here.

The classifieds section is not for the sellers entertainment, and people using it as such should be called out publicly.
I find it ridiculous what some people like to complain about in this country. Get over it.....
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I second the motion....

Somebody needs to start a petition!!
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Thread crapping or bashing one because you don't like what was posted is childish. Let's leave that to the grade school kids and keep the immature people out of the marketplace.
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I don't think you should ever be able to post in the marketplace until you have at least 100 posts on this form. To show that your legitimate user and have some respectability on here. I think that would eliminate a lot of the scammers.
As much as I like the way this sounds, I'd have to agree with those who predict that it would lead to a lot of "garbage posts", just so people could build up their post count.

A far, far better solution would be to require that sellers are forum contributors before being allowed to post goods or services for sale.

I originally came here (registered) on this forum because I was looking for a Desert Eagle locally. Once I saw how the for sale forums are abused here, I quit looking at those forums - problem solved. So while I feel that it wastes my time to sift through outrageously over-priced items, it did cure me from visiting the sale forums.

If sellers at least had to make some kind of minimum financial contribution to the forum, I'd feel that they are far more entitled to post their used goods at prices exceeding that of new merchandise.

I've only bought - never sold, but I would happily make a financial contribution to a forum that allowed me to sell my stuff. Oh, and you can bet that you'd see far fewer ridiculously priced items posted for sale + the forum that facilitated the sale would actually benefit from the contributions..
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Old 02-05-2018, 12:59 PM
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How about you delete your BTT before you BTT again?

If more than 3 BBT's? Mods Delete the ad so they have to repost it until they fall in line.. hahah
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