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Old 02-19-2019, 11:52 AM
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I've got a Hatsan AT-44. They make the same rifle in .177, .22 and .25. I have thought about upping my setup to the .25 but I found some heavy .22 pellets that shoot great out of my current rifle. Other than the better BC of a .22 at the same weight of a .25 (assuming the same pellet shape), is there any real advantage to the .25? The .25 comes out slower already so I'm guessing the power plant is all the same -- just different barrels.
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When you discuss "advantage" it helps to understand what purpose. Is this for target shooting (and what range and wind conditions), or rodent population control? My first guess would be to stick with .22 with the heavier pellet. Like you said, when the weight is the same as the .25 but the .22 has more FPS than the .25's configuration, that .22 is going to have more FPE. Better for both rodent control and target shooting. But likely a bit louder. How much, I don't know. From what you describe, I'd stick with the .22 unless something really changes to give the .25 a more serious advantage. Right now, I don't see that.
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Old 02-24-2019, 4:56 AM
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In todays air rifle world the 22 cal is the new high power rifle , it's pellet selection is better with custom pellets being offered in a lot of different grains, I have all calibers and unless you are hunting big game and need the big hitters, I think the 22 is the best bang for the buck
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Even with the same power plant the 25 will make more energy
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Old 02-25-2019, 8:16 AM
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When you discuss "advantage" it helps to understand what purpose. Is this for target shooting (and what range and wind conditions), or rodent population control? My first guess would be to stick with .22 with the heavier pellet. Like you said, when the weight is the same as the .25 but the .22 has more FPS than the .25's configuration, that .22 is going to have more FPE. Better for both rodent control and target shooting. But likely a bit louder. How much, I don't know. From what you describe, I'd stick with the .22 unless something really changes to give the .25 a more serious advantage. Right now, I don't see that.
I learned a hard lesson about turkey hunting with pellet guns last year so I'm overcompensating. Long story short, I learned that pellets suck at any distance -- hits don't count if they don't penetrate. I mistakenly thought that because I've gotten complete pass-throughs on pigeons at 65+ yards, that I'd still be able to penetrate a turkey's skull at the same range.

While I won't be taking any 50-yard turkey shots again, I'd like some extra power to be able to stretch the range from 20 yards to maybe 25 or 30 yards. My scope mount is fairly high so those really close distances are difficult to manage. A little extra insurance on the further distances gives me a lot more flexibility than trying to take an iffy shot at 10 yards or less. Hope that makes a little sense.
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My Hatsan at44s in 22 and 25 at 50 and 75 yards penetrate 18 ga steel like it’s paper. Not sure how hard a turkeys head is but it’s not 18 ha steel

Don’t shoot your car door with a Hatsan at 50 yards. You’ll have a hole to fill.
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I disagree, the .25 is still gonna deliver more energy and "remove" more material from the target, bigger hole means more blood flow, most .177 and .22 are the same powerplant, the .25 versions are usually upgraded versions of the smaller siblings, i.e. bigger tubes, higher flowing air valves and such.
The .25s usually eat much more air than the smaller calibers, up to 50% more in some cases, I have a .22 PCP and I have the .25 also, same gun name, but the internals are very different in terms of power/air consumption.
The .25 hits with more authority than does the .22 going at the same speed even a 50 fps spread doesn't tip the scales either.
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.25 will have higher FPE at the muzzle. However, it was proven at the EBR this past year that these high power .22cal rifles had much better ballistic co-efficiency over the .25 and .30cal rifles.
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My Hatsan at44s in 22 and 25 at 50 and 75 yards penetrate 18 ga steel like itís paper. Not sure how hard a turkeys head is but itís not 18 ha steel

Donít shoot your car door with a Hatsan at 50 yards. Youíll have a hole to fill.
Yet there it was -- fast asleep, still standing without a mark on its head while 4 of us puzzled over the situation before ending it with a pocket knife.
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