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Old 10-28-2015, 1:05 AM
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Any civilians on here who shoot at (in) the OC Sheriff's pistol range? Is it a good place to shoot?

Their web site says "The department maintains a public pistol range..." but I don't think I have ever met a civilian who has visited it. Anyone have any experience with it? I would have to guess that at a minimum it would probably be pretty well supervised and you probably are not going to get any of the newbs that roll in off the street wanting to rent a gun (as we get at the local indoor ranges).

Also what is the rule about CCW there? I would assume that given it is a sheriff facility, CCW would not be permitted.

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Old 10-28-2015, 1:30 AM
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It's a superb range that says "public" on the sign, but in reality has so many restrictions on "civilians" that it's not really worth your time to go. No long guns of any kind, no magnum handguns, and no smiling faces or happy people. You are treated as if you are being done a favor when you go there to shoot in the range that you help pay to maintain.
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This a great little gem of a gun range in North OC. It's a partially indoor/ outdoor 60ft range run by the OC Sheriff Dept. It's only $7 for your first 2 hours and $2 more for each additional hour or $10 a day. They only take cash or check and do not offer change. Bring your own gun with they only allow pistoles or revolvers. There is a store next door which sells ammo if you need some. You have to meet with the RO before you are allowed to use the range and show competency with your gun. One main rule of the range is that you are only allowed to shoot magazines with no more than 5 rounds loaded. And no rapid fire. Also you need to clean up your own brass which is not a big deal since they offer brooms and dustpans to dispose in red buckets. You can also collect your shells which is great if you plan to resell your brass. Also there are convicts there that are from the local jail to clean and maintain the range. Don't be alarmed and don't have any interaction with them.
Over all this a great place with some really cool people that work there. Since it's a Sheriffs Range you don't run into the random idiots like you do at other places. For the price this place can't be beat!


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This a great little gem of a gun range in North OC. It's a partially indoor/ outdoor 60ft range run by the OC Sheriff Dept. It's only $7 for your first 2 hours and $2 more for each additional hour or $10 a day. They only take cash or check and do not offer change. Bring your own gun with they only allow pistoles or revolvers. There is a store next door which sells ammo if you need some. You have to meet with the RO before you are allowed to use the range and show competency with your gun. One main rule of the range is that you are only allowed to shoot magazines with no more than 5 rounds loaded. And no rapid fire. Also you need to clean up your own brass which is not a big deal since they offer brooms and dustpans to dispose in red buckets. You can also collect your shells which is great if you plan to resell your brass. Also there are convicts there that are from the local jail to clean and maintain the range. Don't be alarmed and don't have any interaction with them.
Over all this a great place with some really cool people that work there. Since it's a Sheriffs Range you don't run into the random idiots like you do at other places. For the price this place can't be beat!


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This is pretty much covers it. The cost is 10$ for all day and that includes free targets. Civilians only have access to 5-6 lanes. The rest of the lanes are used by leo. The RO does inspect you pistol before he assigns you a lane but no competency test is needed. The range isnt that different from any other range. Only thing they ask is you only load your mags to 6 rounds at a time..... not sure the reasoning behind it. The lanes are electronic which is nice and as I mentioned earlier they give you free unlimited targets to use. You just have to clean up after yourself which is not a big deal. You will see people in orange jump suits (inmates) cleaning the front lobby and bathrooms. You are asked not to interact with them at all. You will be shooting next to the SWAT team or drug enforcement unit dressed in full gear so if you are intimated by leo, this isnt the place for you. It can be intimating at first but everyone is friendly and professional. Over all it is a pleasant place to shoot.

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Thanks for the feedback. Doesn't sound too bad. I am not uncomfortable around LEOs and frankly if a range is actively supervised by a range safety officer I say that's all the better. Happy to let him look at my firearms and if they require shooters to demonstrate any proficiency well that just weeds out those who may need more training. As far as only loading 5 or 6, I sometimes do that anyway. It just makes me slow down my rate of fire and try to shoot better. And the cost is reasonable. So I think you convinced me I should give it a try sometime. If nothing else its a new place to try and you never know what you might learn or whom you might meet when you try a new place. I will have to call and find out what is the CCW policy.
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My actually my favourite pistol range in OC. You'll probably bump into me on a sat afternoon about 3 pm.

Once you're a regular they'll wave u in. I only had my guns inspected one time. That's when they explain the rules to you.

Reason why I like the place:
- less crowded
- no noobs
- rapid fire and mag changes tolerated to a certain degree (Leo trains that way as well)
- super friendly staff once u know them
- free brass lying around
- I normally hang side by side targets and do target transition drills
- $7
- above experience may vary, the deputies there typically recognize me and usually know I'm a safe shooter
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Yes! When I lived in OC that was my range. It was affordable and I was able to work with their funny hours.

Pros:
7 bucks!!
Free targets!!
You can keep your brass
Can shoot lead
Excellent ventilation system
Electronic targets
7 bucks!!

Cons:
RO nearly field strips your gun the first time and every time you bring a new one to the range. So not every time if it's the same gun.
Hours, they suck. No doubt about it. Wed thru Sat, wonky hours with a 2 hour break midday.
No rifles, even .22s. Except for cops and trainees, naturally.
CCW, haha. I seriously, seriously doubt it.

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Inmates sweep the brass. Doesn't bother me, but everyone is different.

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Any civilians on here who shoot at (in) the OC Sheriff's pistol range? Is it a good place to shoot?

Their web site says "The department maintains a public pistol range..." but I don't think I have ever met a civilian who has visited it. Anyone have any experience with it? I would have to guess that at a minimum it would probably be pretty well supervised and you probably are not going to get any of the newbs that roll in off the street wanting to rent a gun (as we get at the local indoor ranges).

Also what is the rule about CCW there? I would assume that given it is a sheriff facility, CCW would not be permitted.

Thanks for any info.
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Also the staff and RO's are very nice. As usual they have to be hardasses but once they know you they are really helpful and friendly.
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Old 10-29-2015, 5:12 PM
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Makes me miss the old Fresno County Peace Officer's Assn. range
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Just fyi, saw on a Yelp review that the OCSD range will be closed to the public effective 1/1/16. Don't have confirmation, but 411 info...
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Anyone call and confirm?
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Old 12-16-2015, 5:03 PM
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I swung by today to check it out. There was a sign on the door saying that the public shooting range will be closed indefinitely starting Jan 1.
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It won't be missed. It'll re-open to LEO only with a blacked out part on the sign where the "public" was.
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Old 12-16-2015, 9:08 PM
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It was inevitable. I wonder how this decision was made and why it took so long and if there was any public input? I haven't shot there in a long time but I don't like it. I guess the cops and their minions there can go back to shooting themselves by accident. Will they refund the people that bought annual passes?
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My opinion is that this is what happens when government agencies get the funding they really desire.

They shut the public out after they have some of the helicopters and thermal sensors and ... you name it they want to make us "safe".

I'm not bashing LE here, I just believe this is the route government takes when they have "too much" public funding.
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If we funded it we should be able to use it. There is no reason to exclude the public. Their hours, rules and restrictions to the public were exclusionary enough.

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Tried to call, but all I get are recordings and no way to leave message...
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It's always been like that, re: the answering machine. I moved so I suppose it shouldn't matter to me but I'm really disappointed they decided to close this range to the public. If it weren't for this range I wouldn't have had an opportunity to become proficient and confident with my first handgun. At that time I definitely couldn't afford to go to a 18 dollar range weekly and shoot 50 bucks worth of ammo. At 7 dollars it was doable. I did this every week for 6 months there. So sad.. I know we can't have nice things, but I wish I knew WHY. I hope there was an opportunity for public input at least.

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LAPD managed to kick out the "civilians" from "their" range in San Pedro around 2000. Long Beach PD range is located where a range was once a public range of course it isn't open to the public either.
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LAPD managed to kick out the "civilians" from "their" range in San Pedro around 2000. Long Beach PD range is located where a range was once a public range of course it isn't open to the public either.
Yup, I know. That's why I thought it was cool OC was.. cool.

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Please help keep citizen access to the range:

Call the Public Affairs Office of the Sheriff: (714) 647-7042
Submit a comment to the Sheriff here:https://clients.comcate.com/newreque...opicID=15005#3
Tell the Orange County Board of Supervisors know that you oppose the Sheriff’s policy change here: https://clients.comcate.com/newreque...opicID=10009#3
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Please help keep citizen access to the range:

Call the Public Affairs Office of the Sheriff: (714) 647-7042
Submit a comment to the Sheriff here:https://clients.comcate.com/newreque...opicID=15005#3
Tell the Orange County Board of Supervisors know that you oppose the Sheriff’s policy change here: https://clients.comcate.com/newreque...opicID=10009#3

link does not appear to work.
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link does not appear to work.
Hmmm...not sure what's up, works for me.
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Please help keep citizen access to the range:

Call the Public Affairs Office of the Sheriff: (714) 647-7042
Submit a comment to the Sheriff here:https://clients.comcate.com/newreque...opicID=15005#3
Tell the Orange County Board of Supervisors know that you oppose the Sheriff’s policy change here: https://clients.comcate.com/newreque...opicID=10009#3
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I took another look at how to get to the comments links. This should work:

Use this link to send comments to Sheriff Hutchens: http://ocsd.org/contact (Upper right side of page, click the “Email” link)

Repeat the process here to send comments to the Board of Supervisors: http://ocgov.com/gov/bos/

Here is what I sent to the Sheriff:

Dear Sheriff Hutchens:

I am a resident of Orange County and a frequent user of your public pistol range. I respectfully request that you reconsider your decision to close the range to the public as of January 1, 2016.

I believe the Sheriff's public range is a positive program for a number of reasons: (1) it provides citizens with a safe and economical way to maintain safe gun-handling skills (2) citizen usage fees generate revenue to support the maintenance and operation of the range for LEO's and citizens alike, thereby reducing taxpayer burden for all, and (3) it allows citizens to interact with law enforcement personnel in a positive way, thereby fostering greater appreciation and respect between both groups.

The U.S. Constitution guarantees law-abiding citizens the right to keep and bear arms and I (assume) that members of your department have taken an oath to protect that right by upholding the Constitution: Keeping the range open to the public demonstrates that OCSD cares about citizen safety, and is committed to upholding the constitution for all citizens.

Respectfully,

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FYI, here's the response from OCSD:

"When the range agreement was reached in 1962 the Department as well as the county was much smaller. Our recruit classes as well as other training classes routinely have to be taught at night do to a lack of space when the public range is open. As an experienced shooter, you are also aware of the need for law enforcement to incorporate movement, barricades, multiple targets, etc. into their training. This can not be accomplished while running a static firing line such as on the public range. This was a difficult decision and not taken lightly due to the many great relationships formed over the years between the public and our range staff, unfortunately, the training needs, time and space limitations and safety concerns ultimately led to the decision for the closure. Thank you for your input and have a great day."
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I was there last Saturday and saw the notice as well. Definitely left the range that day sad. I'll do my part and send in my comments and hopefully the board can help intervene to keep it open to the public.

It's a good range and one of the very few public ranges around.
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"When the range agreement was reached in 1962 the Department as well as the county was much smaller. Our recruit classes as well as other training classes routinely have to be taught at night do to a lack of space when the public range is open. As an experienced shooter, you are also aware of the need for law enforcement to incorporate movement, barricades, multiple targets, etc. into their training. This can not be accomplished while running a static firing line such as on the public range. This was a difficult decision and not taken lightly due to the many great relationships formed over the years between the public and our range staff, unfortunately, the training needs, time and space limitations and safety concerns ultimately led to the decision for the closure. Thank you for your input and have a great day."
Yeah, not buying that. They close the range down for training and that's why it says in the voice mail to call and check that there aren't closures before you come down. Also it's a big facility and a small range. The training they are describing wouldn't work in that part anyhow. I can see expanding, but ultimately closing the range to the public is because they can.

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Yeah, not buying that. They close the range down for training and that's why it says in the voice mail to call and check that there aren't closures before you come down. Also it's a big facility and a small range. The training they are describing wouldn't work in that part anyhow. I can see expanding, but ultimately closing the range to the public is because they can.

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I'm not buying it either. They already have the mechanism in place to deal with the scenario of them needing space to run dynamic training...which is that the range has always been subject to short-term closure based on scheduling of LE training.

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I sent a letter, old school typed, in the mail, to Hutchens. no response as of yet. Anyone hear anything back on possibility of reopening to public?

btw The reason they gave of "they needed the space" is so lame. I had been going there for years thur and friday mornings, and there were always many lanes open- 5 lanes for public, anmd the rest "reserved lanes" for leo were also under utilized. That was right through december 2015.
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