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AW Registration Guide **3/18/2021 update: Registration may re-open soon**
NOTE 3/18/2021 Registration will likely be re-opened for anyone that tried and failed to register before the 6/30/2018 Deadline. See FPC press release. This is due to a lawsuit settlement between FPC and DOJ. Most likely, registration will begin this summer, and will last for 90 days. This will NOT apply to any weapons acquired after 12/31/2016, nor to any weapons that were ineligible for registration at that time! Until this new registration window is over, AW statutes will NOT be prosecuted for weapons that are eligible for this new registration period, and any pending charges against eligible weapons will be dropped. Paper registrations by mail will be accepted, but likely still require all the same stuff, including photos. I'll update this guide accordingly when we've sorted this out more. The June 30, 2018 deadline has passed. Unless there might be further legislative action, this registration period is CLOSED. This thread will be kept alive until DOJ is finished processing everyone's pending applications. Click here to subscribe (rather than posting "tagged" or "subscribed"). Click here for a printer-friendly PDF of this guide (revised 5/10/2018). Print in color if you can, and check here regularly for revised versions. Tapatalk users, I recommend reading this guide in a real web browser, or open the PDF attached to this post. Feel free to ask (or answer) questions here, to make suggestions for things to add or change, or to write about your own experiences. DO NOT troll this thread with "registration is for sheep" or "I will not comply" or other such posts in this thread, they achieve nothing and turn into arguments which make the thread more difficult to follow, so they will be reported. There are countless other threads in which you can declare the superiority of your method of compliance versus this one, so take those arguments elsewhere. And while it's also important to know about such things, please do not post about registration alternatives here - there are countless other threads for those discussions (here's a good one, and here's a comprehensive list of products you can buy for accomplishing that). This thread is strictly for information relevant to those who are considering the assault weapon registration option. It is HIGHLY recommended that you read the entire guide (posts 1-5 in this thread) BEFORE you begin the registration process, and also refer to the guide WHILE completing the registration, as there are many helpful tips (and warnings) for how to complete the requested information. I realize it's a long read, but all of it is important. This guide is updated regularly, so make sure you always download the latest PDF revision before you proceed. Pro-tip: Print the guide, and highlight the portions most relevant for your scenario, while crossing out any irrelevant sections - it will make it easier when you read the guide again later. Disclaimer & Warnings (please read first!)
Summary of the 2017 Assault Weapon Ban
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What May, Must, or Can't be Registered CRPA has kindly produced this easy flowchart as a guide. Here's a summary and some additional notes:
Before You Register
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The Registration Process, Part 1 Find the online registration application:
Owner Information: DOJ requires this info for every firearm, but it should auto-fill after the first one. In any case, make sure everything is always EXACTLY the same each time. It saves time (and the possibility of mistakes, and subsequently processing delays) if you enter all your personal information into your account profile before you begin. If even 1 character varies between applications, the system thinks two different people are trying to use the same account, and your application will be delayed.
Firearm Information, Part I (Self-Built / Joint Registration):
Firearm Information, Part II (Firearm Description):
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The Registration Process, Part 2 Attach the Required Files:
Submit the Firearm's Application:
Joint Registrant(s) need to also submit registration application(s):
Now, you wait:
Incomplete or Rejected Applications
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After Registration: What You May, Must, or Can't Do Main thread: What you can/cannot or must do with Registered Assault Weapons (RAW)
If these restrictions ever pose a problem for you, you may de-register (see next section). Voluntary De-Registration Before you consider formal de-registration, consider that you can instead choose to modify or reconfigure the firearm to no longer meet the definition of an Assault Weapon, and then replace the serialized RAW receiver with a different (not RAW) receiver, effectively making the weapon no longer a RAW. Then you may retain the RAW receiver in case you ever decide to build it into a functional RAW again in the future. If you still decide to formally de-register a RAW, the procedure is outlined below. Note that there is no such thing as mandatory de-registration. Under no circumstances are you required to contact DOJ about your RAW once it's registered. Even if you sell it, move, etc. However, in certain scenarios (like if you sold it), you may want to de-register it to disassociate your name from that weapon.
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There is no paper form or electronic copy; registration is via a web application, when the website is actually up.
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Nice post. Can we sticky this and maybe use this thread for all technical AW questions (leave the other threads reserved for political discussion/news)?
Maybe worth changing the title a bit too if it gets stickied, so people know to post technical questions on registration here.
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The whole DOJ website is crashed.
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-The overall length is over 26" when folded, or -the rifle can't be fired with the stock folded Then you should be fine, but I'm not a lawyer so hopefully someone smarter than me can answer
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If overall length is less than 26", then it will be considered a SBR. [PC 17170(b)]
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Thanks for your work above! So just confirming your opinion is that people who legally possess high cap magazines can use them with registered bullet button assault weapons? That's my take from your write up above |
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I am not 100% sure on that, which is why I worded it the way I did. If we get a more affirmative answer from someone smarter than myself, I'll update it accordingly.
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PC 29181. Section 29180 does not apply to or affect any of the following: (c) A firearm which was entered into the centralized registry set forth in Section 11106 prior to July 1, 2018, as being owned by a specific individual or entity if that firearm has assigned to it a distinguishing number or mark of identification to that firearm by virtue of the department accepting entry of that firearm into the centralized registry. So if you already have a serial number, and you VolReged it, and it was approved, and added to the Automated Firearm System, then you are exempt from PC 29180. In my case, I already have a DOJ approved VolReg. My self-assigned serial number is in the AFS. I used that number for the assault weapon registration. If they deny me and say I need a number from them, then they'd need to deregister the VolReg from the AFS first. There is NO procedure for that. Plus I think you'll run afoul of federal law if you try to change an already engraved serial number. |
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That comes straight from Michel & Associates. I had agreed with your assessment before, but they say self-serialized numbers are indeed a no-go for AW registration, according to their webinar yesterday.
But, you can try to register using your existing serial and see what happens, if they accept it then I'll revise the OP.
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AFAIK... (i could be wrong)
Self-engraved info that was voluntarily registered prior to 2017, is being accepted for assault weapons registration. Self-engraved info that was not voluntarily registered prior to 2017, is not being accepted for assault weapons registration and CA DOJ is requiring their identification number to be engraved onto the "home built" firearm, in order to make the "home built" firearm eligible for assault weapons registration. |
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That sounds plausible, Quiet
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My understanding that PC 29180 only applies to vol registration of a firearm, not AW registration. The DOJ has adopted additional requirements for AW registration. I don't have anything to back this up, but I remember the first set of regulations they submitted stating that if your lower already had a self assigned serial number that you would have to add the DOJ assigned serial number in addition. But that doesn't seem to have made it into the final, approved regulations, so not sure how they will handle that scenario. Hopefully for you and others like you, you don't have to get it engraved again... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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They require you to enter both, "to the best of your knowledge". I'll cover that part in the OP when I get a chance.
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I have a question about bullpups (e.g. Steyer Aug, Tavor SAR, X95, etc.). The current legal configuration requires an extended muzzle device to meet the minimum 30" OAL requirement. After the bullpup is registered AW, would it be legal to replace the extended muzzle device with a standard A2 flash hider to reduce the OAL as long as the OAL is still at least 26" and the barrel length is at least 16"? Would the fact that 26" would not have been legal for BB-equipped rifles pre-2017 or the fact that the photos submitted during the registration process show 30" OAL be a problem?
Is there anything definitive in the regulations that state one way or another? Thanks. Last edited by jok5tr; 08-09-2017 at 8:26 PM.. |
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Great information thanks for making this thread. Could you add in there what kind of pictures they are looking for: angles, serial number, length etc if required
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I think this needs to be modified because precluding an inheritance to someone who is not a California resident and who does not reside in California would be a taking without just compensation. Furthermore, even a California resident should be able to inherit if the AW is removed from California. Otherwise, there would again be a taking without just compensation.
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You're correct, it should say 'Give a RAW to someone IN CALIFORNIA as an inheritance' because they are not permitted to keep it here. It's Penal Code 30915 Quote:
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Until then I would counsel EVERYONE who is considering registering home builds to WAIT and see.
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Requirements are extremely vague right now though, all we know is what the 4 photos should contain, that they have to be "clear" (whatever that means), and a maximum file size of 10MB. That's all we really know so far. But read the tutorial above for the full rundown on what we do know.
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I need some help filling in some gaps in the registration tutorial.
In "The Registration Process, Part II", after the part where you hit the "Submit Final" button for the first firearm registration, (all the parts highlighted in blue), I have no idea what happens after that as I haven't yet submitted a registration. The CRPA webinar didn't really cover it, either, I don't think. Has anyone who's registered seen what happens, or what it asks for after that? Can anyone help fill in the blue stuff?
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After you've registered, well that's another matter. "Just keep the gun legal and the Bullet Button on," is all the DOJ says.
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I'm calling it a night - I mostly got the bulk of the content finished (or as finished as it can be). Tomorrow night I'll listen to the webinar again, read the regulations again (for roughly the 1,000th time), and catch up on the various different AW registration threads that are going on, to see if I've missed anything.
Again, if anyone can help me fill in the blue parts in "The Registration Process, Part II", that would be hugely helpful. Additionally, proofreaders and grammar nazis are GREATLY appreciated in this particular thread - if there are ANY errors in the OP, no matter how big or small, I want to know about it so I can fix it.
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With the help of Caliguy93's writeup of his registration experience, I was able to complete the missing information.
I also corrected a few errors I caught after proofreading. I do still need two things: -How and where we submit an application for a new serial number -What address we can send written de-registration requests to Does anyone have that info?
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regarding overall length, does that mean that firearms that need muzzle devices to reach 30" should have them pinned and welded prior to registration?
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