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Old 06-14-2019, 9:13 AM
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Here is mine. I think Im done with it. Sorry for the black and white, I was having fun with the filters.




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Old 06-14-2019, 9:20 AM
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Dig that folder.



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Old 06-14-2019, 1:44 PM
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Yeah, I had just seen those posts. Definitely chassis like that will pop up and eventually Ruger will do a Tactical version... like Mini-14 Tacticals. I bet it is handier in that config. Competition is fierce in the Ruger PCC aftermarket... if you don't get those products to market ASAP, no telling who will eat your lunch.

TACCOM 3G's approach.... fast and crude might be the best for the smaller businesses.
But if Ruger does a tactical it'll probably have a pistol grip.
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Old 06-14-2019, 1:50 PM
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can somebody tell me the exact length of both pieces when taken apart?
i need to know if it will fit into something i already have for a case.
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Old 06-14-2019, 1:55 PM
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Dig that folder.

It's the MPX/MCX stock. The chassis has a 1913 interface like the SIGs.
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Old 06-14-2019, 2:04 PM
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But if Ruger does a tactical it'll probably have a pistol grip.
Well yeah... that's the main appeal of the Tactical versions AFAIK. Just like Copper Custom's new stock.

I didn't say they would be CA friendly.
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Old 06-14-2019, 2:08 PM
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can somebody tell me the exact length of both pieces when taken apart?
i need to know if it will fit into something i already have for a case.

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Realistically to get the smallest possible bag or pack size, you might only need 19.25" or so with the LOP spacer removed. So my LAPG Operator pack will most likely work fine. Main compartment is 20". I probably have a few packs that'll work.

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Old 06-14-2019, 2:14 PM
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^^^
I was looking at that pic we posted back on whatever page of this thread... and I was wondering why that measurement (16.31") wasn't drawn in from the separation point, but that's correct because the barrel / chamber end sticks out from the barrel half when detached from the butt stock half. That's the short half though (16.31")... so I figured 19.25" minimum. I have a 22" Skinner and it works. Also have a quite a few others that work. Most are longer though.

To get more precise I can measure the long half without spacers later, unless someone else posts it.

Not like I needed another bag, but I ordered one of these... might end up using it for AR halves... but The 24" SAVIOR bag, SKINNER folding take-down are winners.

https://lapolicegear.com/bpg-65dc62-workout-bag.html

https://www.amazon.com/Savior-Equipm...07KX73NSY?th=1

These are ok too... FSDC Ruger clone bag and BOTACH bag that was $35 IIRC...





OVERALL, since the SAVIOR is cheaper than the SKINNER... I'd recommend that one. It has it all IMHO.




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Old 06-14-2019, 2:26 PM
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I was looking at that pic we posted back on whatever page of this thread... and I was wondering why that measurement (16.31") wasn't drawn in from the separation point, but that's correct because the barrel / chamber end sticks out when detached from the butt stock half. That's the short half though... so I figured 19.25" minimum. I have a 22" Skinner and it works. Also have a quite a few others that work. Most are longer though.

To get more precise I can measure the long half without spacers later, unless someone else posts it.
thanks. i'm talking about a hard case that is 20.25" max, so it looks like it would only fit without the spacer.
i was hoping it would fit in the same case i am using for its little brother, which barely fits.

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Old 06-14-2019, 2:30 PM
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Yeah, I had just seen those posts. Definitely chassis like that will pop up and eventually Ruger will do a Tactical version... like Mini-14 Tacticals. I bet it is handier in that config. Competition is fierce in the Ruger PCC aftermarket... if you don't get those products to market ASAP, no telling who will eat your lunch.

TACCOM 3G's approach.... fast and crude might be the best for the smaller businesses.
Yep TACCOM was pretty fast getting their stuff up and running. This config seems to look lighter without having held it myself. I'm just waiting for more magwells which to me seem easy to make but heck i'm no engineer lol. And of course the Backpacker stock.
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Old 06-14-2019, 3:01 PM
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Yep TACCOM was pretty fast getting their stuff up and running. This config seems to look lighter without having held it myself. I'm just waiting for more magwells which to me seem easy to make but heck i'm no engineer lol. And of course the Backpacker stock.
Yeah, I have a TACCOM end plate and a few other things... the comp has a lot of machining marks on it. My TTI comp looks about as good as it gets.
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thanks. i'm talking about a hard case that is 20.25" max, so it looks like it would only fit without the spacer.
i was hoping it would fit in the same case i am using for its little brother, which barely fits.

I took the spacers off both of mine... at one time I had a scope that required more LOP to get the weld right... bugged me so I switched scopes. I like them with no spacers.
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http://www.egwguns.com/pistol-and-re...e-sight-mount/

EGW rear sight replacement LOW RMR mount... would be nice with RMR or HS507C

Still have not seen the NCSTAR with rear sight relocation listed:

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Old 06-14-2019, 3:19 PM
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I took the spacers off both of mine... at one time I had a scope that required more LOP to get the weld right... bugged me so I switched scopes. I like them with no spacers.
thanks. i am not particularly big, and proper eye relief for a scope isn't likely to be an issue, or i would use an extended scope mount if needed.
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Old 06-14-2019, 3:50 PM
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thanks. i am not particularly big, and proper eye relief for a scope isn't likely to be an issue, or i would use an extended scope mount if needed.
I wanted the scope LOW and the occular bell hits the pic rail on the receiver, so most could only be mounted so far forward and still stay low. I have a lot of SPR and WARNE type extended mounts but wanted it slammed. I just got a scope with a smaller bell... Nikon M Tac 1-4... got my eye relief right with no spacers.
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Old 06-14-2019, 4:27 PM
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thanks. i'm talking about a hard case that is 20.25" max, so it looks like it would only fit without the spacer.
i was hoping it would fit in the same case i am using for its little brother, which barely fits.
Just put a tape on mine.

Barrel section is 16.5 from muzzle thread protector to flange at front of chamber.
Receiver Section is 19.75 buttplate and no spacers.
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thanks. i'm talking about a hard case that is 20.25" max, so it looks like it would only fit without the spacer.
i was hoping it would fit in the same case i am using for its little brother, which barely fits.


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nice job, thanks!

i have the big roller for ammo, supplies and gear, and some of the smaller cases for handguns and the 10/22 so it all locks together for travel or bug out.
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A member asked for info on the case and foam insert. For anyone else interested:

Case - RIDGID 22 in. organizer box

Foam - Kaizen Insert for Ridgid Gear Organizer
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A better mouse trap has been built. The size and activity of this thread is a testimony to this rifle. History does repeat itself. If this mouse goes for the bait, it will be the fourth time in my life with a pistol / carbine combo. The free floating hand guards..........my G34 may need company
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A better mouse trap has been built. The size and activity of this thread is a testimony to this rifle. History does repeat itself. If this mouse goes for the bait, it will be the fourth time in my life with a pistol / carbine combo. The free floating hand guards..........my G34 may need company

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I should add... that since I was thinking about it, I just ordered 4 more of those field sports to have on hand... and while I was on amazon I noticed the same company has a reflex sight for like 22 bucks.

I got one to try out... I'll post an update after I try it on the PCC. A reflex would probably be better than a tubular red-dot. For the price, it's worth a try.
The results are in.

I got the reflex sight version of the el-cheapo FieldSport from Amazon, tried it out this weekend.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The Good:
- Price is great
- Held zero decently, ran about 200 rounds
- Nice clear field of view, no really noticeable distortion.

The Bad:
- It's a little heavy, but feels solid.
- It comes with a built-in mount that is just a smidge too tall. I tried it mounted flush on the rail near the rear, and all the way forward. I also tried it on the one that has the piece of rail that replaces the rear sight on the barrel.
- With a good cheek weld, it is too high. The red-dot sits lower, and mounted on the barrel, has a very comfy fit, at least to how I like to shoot.
- It would take a little getting used to, for the position sitting a little higher. The best thing would be to add a cheek riser, which I may explore.

All in all, I might grab another for the other PCC I've got, might keep one with the red-dot, and one with the reflex... haven't decided yet.

I have no idea how long the battery lasts, but it is very easy to change.
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A member asked for info on the case and foam insert. For anyone else interested:

Case - RIDGID 22 in. organizer box

Foam - Kaizen Insert for Ridgid Gear Organizer
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The results are in.

I got the reflex sight version of the el-cheapo FieldSport from Amazon, tried it out this weekend.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The Good:
- Price is great
- Held zero decently, ran about 200 rounds
- Nice clear field of view, no really noticeable distortion.

The Bad:
- It's a little heavy, but feels solid.
- It comes with a built-in mount that is just a smidge too tall. I tried it mounted flush on the rail near the rear, and all the way forward. I also tried it on the one that has the piece of rail that replaces the rear sight on the barrel.
- With a good cheek weld, it is too high. The red-dot sits lower, and mounted on the barrel, has a very comfy fit, at least to how I like to shoot.
- It would take a little getting used to, for the position sitting a little higher. The best thing would be to add a cheek riser, which I may explore.

All in all, I might grab another for the other PCC I've got, might keep one with the red-dot, and one with the reflex... haven't decided yet.

I have no idea how long the battery lasts, but it is very easy to change.
They work. NC STAR has been making one forever (decades?). They last quite a while it you don't drop them or bang them around... plastic and pot metal can come apart. I used one on an MKII for quite a while till I broke it, switched to a TRS-25, then to a FastFireIII. The beauty of the RMR type is smaller size and dedicated mount plates that get you a lot lower on some platforms. I'd like to find a real HAKKO Panorama someday. Browning slaps their logo on one of the clones like these... for the price it has to be made in China, but will make Buckmark owners feel more warm and fuzzy maybe. My buddy has one on a Buckmark - $60 IIRC.

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