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Old 04-14-2019, 4:55 PM
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I'm sure this topic has come up a million times, but I'm a little lost. It's probably equivalent to a "which intake or exhaust, is better" question, on a car forum. Im more of a 1911/handgun guy, ButI just purchased a CZ 455 17HMR for my gopher problem. I'm only going to be shooting from 10 to 50 yards out, max. I've searched the web, but everything I read refers to 100 yards or more. Could you recommend a good scope for under $200? I 'd appreciate it.
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Old 04-14-2019, 6:43 PM
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Theres some decent companies out there. Vortex, burris, and bushnell, those are a few I can think of. Their warranties and company have a pretty good reputation. Just keep mind its going to be $200 quality glass.
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Old 04-14-2019, 6:44 PM
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Also, if you’re more a red dot kind of person, then maybe a holosun or bushnell.
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Old 04-14-2019, 6:45 PM
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I just got one of these--

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/34...-7x-33mm-matte

IMHO, it would work very well for you. Leupold bought Redfield in 2009. All the Redfields come off the Leupold production line in Oregon. They are not Chinese junk. Read the reviews.
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Old 04-14-2019, 9:27 PM
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I won't recommend any specific model but rather some brands to consider: Nikon, Vortex, Leupold, Burris, Redfield. Within those brands you can chose the prices & features you want.

Stay away from UTG, Barska, CVlife, or any other random generic brand. (most typically found on Amazon) And do not get suckered into the higher magnification hype. Focus on glass quality, because cheap scopes + overly high magnification will inevitably lead to blurry glass. A 3-9x is sufficient for your intended purpose & distances. Anything higher will just magnify your wobbling. And for a lot of cheap scopes, it's a way to inflate the specs.

Since you seem comfortable around car analogies, a cheap 4-15x is like a very high hp engine, but it gets there only after going out to 12,000 rpm, and it generates a tiny amount of torque. Whereas a good quality 3-9 is like a high torque engine, and it generates it all at a very low rpm. On paper it's specs are middling, but it performs where it matters.

Don't worry about the 100 yd parallax thing. It's not an issue in your case.
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Old 04-15-2019, 4:25 AM
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^ I agree with kcheung2 about picking a quality company.

To help to narrow things down you might want to look at Leupold's vx-freedom rimfire MOA line. They have two, a 3-9 that runs right around $200 and a 2-7 for about $180. Here's a link to opticts planet, but you can probably find the same or better prices at other places, including at a local guns shop, sportsman's warehouse, or bass pro; https://www.opticsplanet.com/leupold...flescopes.html and https://www.opticsplanet.com/leupold...ch-riflescopes .html We have the 3-9 on a 10-22. Nice optic with a good moa reticle. They say the glass is as good or better than the vx2 line, and it compares very well with our vx2 3-9 scopes.
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I'm sure this topic has come up a million times, but I'm a little lost. It's probably equivalent to a "which intake or exhaust, is better" question, on a car forum. Im more of a 1911/handgun guy, ButI just purchased a CZ 455 17HMR for my gopher problem. I'm only going to be shooting from 10 to 50 yards out, max. I've searched the web, but everything I read refers to 100 yards or more. Could you recommend a good scope for under $200? I 'd appreciate it.
Right now you could get a $300 SWFA SS 10x42 for $254 with a free pair of BC flip caps. Tax day sale over tonight. I would. I'd say that puts the scope around $239 if you were gonna buy flip caps anyway... good fit for the 455 especially for 50-100 IMHO.
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I have this Nikon on my Savage Mark II FV 22lr.

Awesome scope and parallax goes down to 50 yards.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Here is the newer version. I have no experience with it.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FLZJZYQ...v_ov_lig_dp_it

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The SS will focus 10 yards and up. Great scope. I have a 10x42 mounted on the 455 .22 LR.
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For a 17HMR I would normally recommend the Nikon ProStaff Rimfire but if you are shooting inside 25 yards you will want to get an AO (adjustable objective) scope. Either of the Nikon Prostaff scopes linked above would be good and in your price range.
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+1 for the SWFA SS 10x42

At its price point it’s a steal IMHO. It’s proven to be stout, repeatable, will track, and has parallax down to 10 yards. The reticle is a bit dated and the FOV could be better, but don’t let that stop you.
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Take a look at the Vortex Crossfire II. I have both the 6X18 and the 4X12 models. They both have an adjustable objective that lets you adjust parallax as low as 10 yards. I purchased the 4X12 from Optics Planet a few months ago for $189. I'm very pleased with both of them.
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Take a look at the Vortex Crossfire II. I purchased the 4X12 from Optics Planet a few months ago for $189. I'm very pleased with both of them.
That's the normal price at Cabela's too... so you might be able to get 30% off that.

I have a non-AO 3-9x50 BDC on a 10/22... I do very much prefer the SWFA SS, but the CFII would be below budget. The 3-9x50 was about $90 when I got it from Cabela's.
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FWIW I don't recommmend a 10x scope if your shooting GS and have chances up close. They don't stand around forever and it can be tough to find them with 10x up close. Especially if your buddy is getting impatient and may shoot that GS instead of you.

Any 3x9 or 4x12 would be fine. I wouldn't go red dot for GS since they are pretty small and there can be some long shots.
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Old 04-19-2019, 6:54 PM
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Thanks for the help. I know now that I want a 3-9 adjustable objective scope. Is the leupold vx freedom A/O? What are my other choices in that configuration. Crossfire II. Anything I'm leaving out?
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I’d look at nikon, leupold, vortex, Burris ...if you can try to get their mid tier. stay away from crossfire. buck master, etc.
you might have to be 200-250 to get better glass...But you can thank me later.
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Here is nikon monarch 2.5-10 on sale for $224 with 20$ off code that's good till tomorrow. so you can get a new Nikon monarch for $204
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If it were me I’d get one of these. Only one of them is under $200.00 and was mentioned by 67Cuda:
Nikon ProStaff P3 Target EFR 3-9x40 AO
Clearidge Ultra RM 3-9x32 AO
Leupold VX-Freedom EFR 3-9x33

All of them have AO.
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I have a Bushnell Banner Scope, 3-9x40, on my .17 HMR. Better yet, get a Crossman F4 Nitro Piston .177 pellet rifle, comes with a scope.
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Old 04-23-2019, 6:19 PM
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Thanks for all of the suggestions. I went to my local gun shop and looked through a few scopes. I really liked the leupold VX-Freedom 3-9 40. And I really don't think I need the A/O. I was looking at things from 3 yards up to 50 yards or so, in the store, an every thing was clear and bright. They make a rimfire model also (174181). I'm pretty sure that's the scope I'm going to end up with.
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Parallax can be an issue, normally with a 22LR. Scopes not specifically for a 22 at set at 100 yards. 22 at 50 yards. Easiest way around the issue is an Adjustable objective or a side focus. The 17HMR is not a 22LR, but the same family.
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I just got one of these--

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/34...-7x-33mm-matte

IMHO, it would work very well for you. Leupold bought Redfield in 2009. All the Redfields come off the Leupold production line in Oregon. They are not Chinese junk. Read the reviews.
+1 for th Redfield. The glass is super clear. The reticle on the scope will work best for the OP's application. Just zero and shoot. Best of all its all its USA made.
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