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California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism Discuss gun rights activism and 2A related political topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel. |
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SB-374 and Hunting Rifles (guess I didn't get it)
One positive step we can take is calling Darrell Steinberg's office and your Representative's office and encourage them to make an exemption list of "legitimate hunting rifles". Senator Steinberg is the senator in my district and his office said this is something in consideration. Suggest Feinstein's exemption list as a starting point.
None of us want to see a semi-auto ban but if you enjoy hunting (and I do very much) then you'll call or write to protect hunting rifles such as the Browning BAR long/short trac, the Benelli R-1, the Ruger 10/22, other rifles we all know are NOT "Assault Weapons"! UPDATE: OK some folks explained why this is a bad idea. Because I do know hunters who are going down this road use this thread to post the RIGHT IDEA so I can at least explain to them why this is the wrong road. Last edited by Moonshine; 02-22-2013 at 4:03 PM.. |
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You cannot buy an assault rifle in California as it is right now. Assault rifles require an NFA tax stamp to purchase since they are full auto capable.
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No. My AR shooting .223 IS a legitimate hunting rifle. Please grow a brain.
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You an anti or something? NO FREAKING WAY. We're strongest when we're allied.
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First they came for the communists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the socialists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak for me. Oh and BTW - I don't hunt, so I really don't care about them taking any of THOSE rights away. |
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Uhh... nope. If I want to hunt with a 6.8spc AR15, or a .308 Remington r15 I should be able to as well. But, because people stood idly by and let the CA legislature do exactly what you are advocating, i.e. divide and conquer, I don't have that ability in CA because they are "assault weapons".
Don't play their game. This is exactly what they want. If you call and write and plead to get your two favorite hunting guns put on some special list of "approved hunting rifles" then : A. You have betrayed all of us by giving up the fight once your interests are taken care of. B. Given them exactly what they are hoping for with these "exempt lists". They WANT you to do this. Because then they can add a few non threatening popular and expensive guns to an approved list and immediately cut away half of the opposition. Then a few years later they will start whittling away at the approved firearms, and I assure you the people who lost their favorite guns because you caved once yours were protected will not stand with you. I get the sense that you mean well, but frankly this is a very shortsighted way to go. It is time to hang together, or we will surely hang separately. It is Not their place to decide which hunting rifles are appropriate or approved. |
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Plus the fewer exemptions, the more illegitimate the law is in the first place. |
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The 2A is not about hunting. Accepting a compromise to "excluse legitimate hunting rifles" would be to concede the 2A only protects hunting.
No more compromises, no more concessions, no more nothing. It's line in the sand time. Cross it and it's time to get an "in your face" reminder about just exactly what the 2A was intended for.
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My ar is my primary hunting rig. The bolt actions collect dust. Will not help you with that.
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This is a horrible idea. If you're trying to get this passed, this is how you do it. JB isn't going to sign a bill that bans every semi-auto hunting rifle, but you exempt a "safe hunting rifle roster" and you increase the chances.
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No way. Just fight it. If they get their ban, then move your guns out of state or whatever. Don't register them. And wait for the lawsuits to be done with. Then you can bring them back. If not, they will never know where they are so you'll be sticking it to the man.
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Nobody "needs" a 10/22. I still have pre-ban 25 rounders for mine, and it's a struggle every day to not go on a shooting spree.
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Nope! Stand together or you can hang with this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Zumbo
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It was the exemptions made for firearms used in cowboy action shooting that got the original "safe handgun" roster passed.
NOT AGAIN This is another one of those anti-gun bills disguised as a "pro-gun" bill.
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I see no mention in the 2nd Amendment or the Federalist Papers that the Founders meant to Protect Hunting Rifles, Plinking Rifles or Rifles used for Sport.
Tell your Leader to Stuff It.
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BTW, have you not seen The Sportsman Channel lately? AR-15 type rifles are being used all the time these days for hunting. The other day they showed a 12 year old bag a wild turkey with an AR set up for hunting.
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**** you. Hunting is not protected by the 2A. |
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If we can't stop a ban, we want the ban to be as broad as possible in order to encompass as many gun owners as it possibly can.
There are all too many naive idiots out there who don't stand with their fellow gunowners because they think their duck gun or deer rifle is safe. Newsflash for them: when the owners of little black guns are out of the equation, there will be that many fewer voices to help prevent your Remington 700 being outlawed as a sniper rifle or your Browning BPS as a street sweeper. |
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My AR-15 is every bit as "legitimate" a "hunting rifle" as your precious BAR. Let the bill stand, maybe the hunting community will finally "get" that the grabbers want them ALL.
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Even though I don't presently own a centerfire semi-auto rifle, I stand with all the AR, AK, SKS, etc. owners out there. The Bill of Rights is not up for negotiation.
They are trying to divide and conquer. First appeal to non-semi-auto owners to get some support from a few of us and then ban semi-autos. Next they'll be after lever and pump actions, stating they didn't realize how deadly those could be in the right hands. Finally they'll go after your hunting rifles because no one needs to hunt anymore, now that we are civilized enough to go to the grocery store. You have to realize that there are idealistic antis that won't be satisified until they have eliminated ALL GUNS from our country. Have they ever stopped trying? Not in my lifetime. Your little exemption list won't get in their way.
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Another point worth noting:
With regards to government, I have noticed that if you let them have the power to GIVE you something, you have let them have the power to TAKE that same thing away.
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AR is a semi auto rifle NOT an Assault Rifle. PERIOD... No More, no less Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD |
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Don't amend a bad bill.
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!
Are you kidding me! Open your eye's, they are after everything. We need to stand together not divided between hunting and sporting use... Give me a break! NOT ONE INCH! Either stand with all gun owners or get a bow and arrow. Quote:
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I wrote the following in the other thread because this attitude really pisses me off. Figured I'd post it here too:
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