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Thank you for the words of advice. Unfortunately, I cannot speak for the Vacaville store as I have only spent one day there. I did get a chance to speak to a few customers while I was up there, and it was a learning experience. I have worked in CS for some time, and so have the people above me, which is why I was appointed to Calguns. I have been a member for years, and have had my fair share of good and bad experiences as well. I keep track of any issues that may arise, and meet with with the powers that be to go over how we can correct these issues. It seems that many of you are under the assumption that the same staff that runs the other store is running Dublin, but that's simply not the case. I know it will only be a matter of time before I can prove otherwise, so that's all that I ask, is for that chance. Now, for some updates... The range is moving along faster than expected. We should definitely be ready by our grand opening, September 26th. I confirmed that the we will allow all rimfire, all pistol calibers up to .500 mag, and rifles up to .308 win (although our range is rated for much higher than that, noise may be an issue). I have been told different things regarding shotguns. For sure, we cannot shoot any form of bird shot, potentially 00 buck and slugs, but I will finalize that ASAP. To simplify things for now, we are not allowing anything higher than a 10 round magazine. There are exceptions, for example, if the firearm has a fixed magazine tube that holds more. Consignments and trades have started, so you should start to see used guns there soon. Those will all need to be directed to Les, my direct manager. As always, safety is a huge concern, so please check in any and all firearms at the front counter. There is a separate range entrance if you are coming to shoot. As far as I know, the only limitations to PPT transactions would be our business hours, and all that we ask is that you do not show up when we are closing to complete it. I believe we do carry Eberlestock, but I will confirm on Saturday. Please also keep in mind that we are still getting inventory in on a daily basis, thanks again all! Jerry |
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There was a rumor that your range was going to be 50 yrds, but alas it is not.
The fact that you guys will be not allowing standard capacity magazines on your range is a bit of a disappoint, not so much because of the actual capacity, but because GFOS feels they need to police that. It's not like somehow the range could be held liable should someone be using one that they acquired illegally. I've been in the store twice now, since I'm always in the neighborhood, and so far everyone has been pretty friendly and helpful. Did try to pick up a Blackhawk Serpa holster for my PPQ M2, but it seemed like it was the one model you guys didn't have in stock. Do you have a fixed work schedule? Last edited by xtcat9k; 09-05-2014 at 8:22 AM.. |
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One point, I think there may be a problem with the 10 round policy that might cause some issues. And that is that some of us have firearms that are old and we may only have magazines that hold more than 10 rounds. Why do you need to inspect magazine capacity and how will you know? For instance some AR magazines are blocked to 10 rounds but there is no external sign of that fact. Getting yourselves involved in magazine capacity seems difficult and unnecessary. In fact, getting yourselves involved in the legality of firearms configurations will turn off a lot of potential customers. Are you the police or do you provide a nice firing range where customers feel comfortable? Obviously, the issue already arose at the Vacaville location and a lot of the folks were turned off by that. It's your call, I can see you limiting the type of firearms used at the range for reasons of range wear and safety, but saying that an AK pistol is illegal will turn off the folks you want to attract. They are not gang bangers in the Pleasanton, Dublin, San Ramon, Danville areas. People who buy those types of arms (AK pistols) tend to be firearms enthusiasts, collectors, etc. And they tend to be the types who are always looking for an interesting new gun, they are active customers. You don't want to be involved in what people are shooting at the range other than to ensure the appropriate caliber restrictions and conventional configurations. Unsafe handling, not following the rules, are all really valid reasons to kick someone out. JMHO
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That's cool I'll have to go there soon.
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You should focus on regulating bad behavior and range safety, not what guns or accessories your customers bring. Please seriously reconsider this before your opening day. If your corporate lawyer recommended this, consider switching to one of the Calguns recommended lawyers. |
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I just came back from your store. Damn it's HUGE. A guy by the name of Alex was very friendly and accommodating. He answered all my questions regarding accessories and my build without making me feel stupid for asking. That's very much appreciated for someone like me that's new to all of this.
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The issue with the magazine capacity is something that is bothering me as well, I'm not going to lie. I have several guns that I plan to shoot here, and will need to actually go buy limited/10 round mags to shoot here. The problem is training staff to know what to look for to keep things legal and SAFE. I agree with you all, and I'm still fighting to get rid of this rule, but I have to tread lightly... =) Quote:
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Like me, Alex is also a part-timer. He's a very nice guy, knows a decent amount, and friendly. Thanks for coming by, we are slowly filling the store up, and as you said, it's huge. If I can help with anything, please let me know. Jerry Guns, Fishing, and Other Stuff |
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I don't how magazine capacity has anything to do with safety. Perhaps you could enlighten us?
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I have purchased a number of firearms from GFOS in Vacaville. I have had great experiences when I've gone in with my wife, but only meh experiences when I've gone in by myself. For the record, every time I have set foot in store I have had cash in hand, have been ready to buy, and have contacted the store earlier in the day to ensure they have what I want in stock. They have always had the mainstream firearm that I was looking for at a reasonable price. I've dealt personally with the owner on a trade and he was pleasant and accommodating. That said, from not being contacted by employees, to reps being the embodiment of fudd (fear, uncertainty, doubt, and disinformation), to being on hold for forever and a day, they have challenges that make it difficult to be a return customer. Even after all of those negative experiences, the range rules are far and away the reason why I will not be going back, either to purchase or to shoot.
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You and Bill have a lot of thinking to do- if the discriminatory/arbitrary range rules stay in place, the majority of Calguns folks will have their minds made up for them.
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Thanks to the calgunners that stopped by on Sunday, it was nice to meet you guys in person! Jerry |
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I stop by today around 5pm to check on pricing for target shotgun shells and to say hi, but I was told you had left for the day already. |
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Please post your range rules here.
Perhaps you could clarify things here by simply posting your written range rules. Thanks.
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the bottom line is that everyone in the vacaville (GF&CRAP) store gun department should be fired.i have been in there 3 times to purchase and treated like crap.cash in hand and ready.they all act like they are doing me a favor.you cant even walk around without being watched like they think you are going to steal something.plus not to say they are way over priced..i know people who know the owner,he has a ton of money ,throws it around a does not care about the customers.you can tell that by the people he hires to manage this awful store.the only store i support now and since the first day they opened is AMMUNITION SUPPLY POINT in vacaville,locally owned,veteran owned and will beat anybodys price.great customer service.GF&S should take some lessons from these folks..
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I met with Jerry last weekend and had a nice conversation. Everyone should keep in mind that he does not make up the rules for GFOS. If the company has any policies that he disagrees with, he is still here as their representative. It is his job to represent their interest (not ours), although he well knows that a convergence of interests is the best for everyone.
I agree that the 10-round mag rule is completely inane, it is not going to change by browbeating Jerry. I'm wondering if we should get a letter-writing campaign going to reach out to the owner and store manager. Money talks, and if the paying public is expressing displeasure, business owners usually listen.
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Just stopped there today. Employees were friendly. They are still stocking the store. Ammo prices are a little high with PMC 223 at $479/1000 rounds. Pistols are decently priced for the area with a selection of hk, sigs, les Baer, Kimber, and glock.
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I only live ten minutes away, I'll go down and find out what the range rules are. And check out the store.
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** as a heads up, I will be out of the store starting Thursday morning until Sunday the 21st for a deer and possibly a pig hunt.** Jerry |
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Maybe they already have then.. I was in there on the first day.. Checked on what was in stock at the time Reloader 15 and Benchmark in the $41-44 neighborhood.
The guy behind the counter acknowledged without asking that the prices are high and will "probably" be adjusted for the regular opening. Another question going around is the powder log. Any idea whats up with this ? |
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I refuse to buy anything from these S.O.B.'s. Their inventory is over priced and in my opinion ... they're racest. I stood in line one time to purchase an overpriced P225 (only because I wanted one so badly) and they went out of their way to help out other customers behind me. I actually had to stop a guy on the floor to help me. Luckly for me the P225 had fallen off roster a week before so they couldn't sell it to me (I ended up finding a new in box one for less and purchasing it through PPT) I can't speak for Dublin ... but hopefully they'll be better than Vacaville.
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Having never been to the Vacaville store, I can't comment on any differences between the two, but on the several occasions I've been in the Dublin store, the staff has been friendly and welcoming. I've only bought a few minor things there so far, but I've been eyeing adding a 22LR pistol to my collection.
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I went into this place today for the second time. Interesting method for displaying handguns. The prices seem high to me; kind of like Bass Pro Shop level of prices. I was suprised to see a couple of Les Baer 1911 pistols on display. Still looks like they're setting up the place. I'll go back if they have any grand opening sales or deals.
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Thanks for coming by, I'm sorry I missed you. We are slowly our shelves, I am waiting to check in 250 long guns as we speak. Our Les Baer inventory is running low, we currently are down to our last three, but will be getting more in soon. If you have any other questions, please let me know how I can help. My apologies, I got back late Sunday night from a deer hunt, and had to play catch up yesterday. Jerry |
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I was just there and they are still stocking all of the shelves. They have a good selection of ammo, powder, and primers. I picked up 1# of W296 for $30 + tax which to me is a more than fair price. The CCI primers were selling for $50 which is high so I hope that gets lowered at some point.
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BTW, Big5 was charging $45 for Winchester primers, but are now down to $40/1000.
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I have only been reloading for a few months so $30/lb does in fact sound reasonable to me. Online prices (when they even have stock) are usually higher after hazmat and shipping unless you buy large quantities to offset the per pound cost and I have yet to see 4# or 8# kegs of pistol powder pop up online.
With that being said though, I can see how $30/lb sounds expensive for someone that's been reloading for years and purchased their supplies at a much lower cost. Unfortunately, I do not have that frame of reference. And honestly, I was excited to see 20+ bottles of powder in stock in the first place. Last edited by jeffy1021; 09-23-2014 at 12:35 PM.. |
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Was at the store earlier this evening. Clerk says the range should be opened for business in 3 days. He also said they're planning to allow rifle calibers up to .338.
Jerry, any news about those range rules? |
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