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Old 08-12-2014, 5:01 AM
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I've been looking at a few free anti-virus programs available like Avira and they read good, but how good are they? I've also read about Microsoft Security Essentials being a good all around. How are these programs "free" Basic is free, but you pay for more advanced features?

It's just for surfing and I use my old desktop for the pron. I want ad-blocking/pop up blocking, background intrusion scanning and a cleaning utility of sorts.

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Old 08-12-2014, 5:03 AM
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It's just for surfing and I use my old desktop for the pron. I want ad-blocking/pop up blocking, background intrusion scanning and a cleaning utility of sorts.
I'm not sure about AV programs, but I love your brutal honesty.

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- AVG Free (resident)
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For anti-virus by itself, just get Microsoft Security Essentials, and pair that with Malwarebytes on occasion.

MS Security Essentials is free, and it's actually part of Windows. It has probably the lowest requirements of any AV software as far as overhead goes.
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...MS Security Essentials is free, and it's actually part of Windows. It has probably the lowest requirements of any AV software as far as overhead goes.
...and the most infected.

Skip any M$ product that is supposed to protect you. SE is like their 3rd attempt at an AV, and still fails more than 3rd party free AVs.

I use Avast free(, used to use AVG until they started hijacking browser searches), Clam for my Windows server (not public-IP accessible).
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Pay for quality. I like Eset and Webroot both of which are cheap if you catch a sale and have minimal overhead. I also suggest running Adblock Plus to help prevent banner inserted malware.

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Norton 360 and fuhgedaboutit...

It's not the memory hog it was a decade ago, and I've never had a virus get through it yet.
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Pay for quality. I like Eset and Webroot both of which are cheap if you catch a sale and have minimal overhead. I also suggest running Adblock Plus to help prevent banner inserted malware.

http://www.av-test.org/en/home/
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...and the most infected.

Skip any M$ product that is supposed to protect you. SE is like their 3rd attempt at an AV, and still fails more than 3rd party free AVs.

I use Avast free(, used to use AVG until they started hijacking browser searches), Clam for my Windows server (not public-IP accessible).
Wow ... that is pretty ignorant advice. If you have Windows 7 or 8, MS's own Security Essentials is probably THE best anti-malware available for the OS. I'd like to see proof where third-party AV software alone is better than MS SE. MS SE will stop most of all direct attacks against the MS OS -- that's what it was made to do, duh. Besides, it's already there with your OS and it's essentially free. Use it, just add another anti-malware software.

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Norton 360 and fuhgedaboutit...

It's not the memory hog it was a decade ago, and I've never had a virus get through it yet.
At least that you know of, right? Norton has become bottom of the heap AV. Like McAfee they have moved onto enterprise level appliances and software.

No one anti-malware software is going to protect any device any longer. Even if you have more than one anti-malware software at any given time, it still depends on YOU, the operator of the machine.

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I've been looking at a few free anti-virus programs available like Avira and they read good, but how good are they? I've also read about Microsoft Security Essentials being a good all around. How are these programs "free" Basic is free, but you pay for more advanced features?

It's just for surfing and I use my old desktop for the pron. I want ad-blocking/pop up blocking, background intrusion scanning and a cleaning utility of sorts.

Suggestions/input?
paid eset NOD32 for me

as for your pron cleaning utility.......try
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I was using AVG for almost 10 years and then when Windows 7 came out I moved to Microsoft Security Essentials and have been happy with them ever since.

I also use Spywareblaster and Spybot in addition to MSE and have very little to no problems with viruses, spyware, and malware.
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The only free one I would use is MS Security Essentials. I prefer Mcaffee.

The simple question is .... if a large company invests millions developing and maintaining their AV software can you expect it to be better than free software put together by a few guys who make a few bucks off advertising and from including bloatware in the free stuff.

I'll trust a company who's success depends on the quality and effectiveness of their product. In MS's case, even though it's free, they created it to protect their other products and did a pretty good job.
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Old 08-12-2014, 9:15 AM
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Thanks guys, great info. I'll just try MSE and see how I like it. I currently use Spyware blaster on my Desktop, but nothing stops the pron pop-ups when I want a full size window.
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After trying a lot of different solutions I ended up a Kaspersky user for a long time, but about 4-5 years ago I switched to ESET NOD32 for both home and business use and haven't looked back.

It seems to be one of the best solutions I've come across, plus Newegg has them on special a lot, so you can get 3 x 1 year licenses for about $25 shipped so the cost can be very reasonable.

For a free solution, I also have no problem with MSE, its better than nothing if you don't want to pay for a solution. +1 on MalwareBytes too

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I use Avast as the main protection on all of my computers and have never got any virus or anything. I do scan occasionally with Malwarebytes just to double check but it has yet to find anything.
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As part of your security routine make sure windows has all of the latest patch releases.

If you want another layer of protection, create another account on the PC and DO NOT give it admin rights. This way if anything does want to get installed on the PC it can't due to permissions. For browsing and fapping it should work.
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While Malwarebytes is great free anti-malware, IMHO spending $19 a year for Malwarebytes Pro was well worth the money.
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Who is your internet provider???

Many offer free antivirus while you are a customer.

They offer the big brands.
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Wow ... that is pretty ignorant advice. If you have Windows 7 or 8, MS's own Security Essentials is probably THE best anti-malware available for the OS. I'd like to see proof where third-party AV software alone is better than MS SE. MS SE will stop most of all direct attacks against the MS OS -- that's what it was made to do, duh. Besides, it's already there with your OS and it's essentially free. Use it, just add another anti-malware software.
Right because M$ makes the BEST browsers, Windows 8 is SUPER efficient, Vista was GREAT, XP64 was the best, ME was super, Windows 3.0 was AWESOME. /scar-chasm

Windows 7 ALWAYS tells you that ME that I don't have Internet access when I do, they STILL haven't figured out that while right-clicking files the same menu doesn't always pop-up in Windows 7 (x86 & 64bit) until you click it, then have to right click it again, so assume their AV is worth a crap? Let me just leave this here: http://www.howtogeek.com/173291/good...rty-antivirus/

I personally trust it as much as I trust IE (THX to the dubstep'd commercials), or "Verizon Internet Security Suite Anti-Virus Firewall".

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Who is your internet provider???

Many offer free antivirus while you are a customer.

They offer the big brands.
U-Verse.

I'd rather not use something given to me from a provider and I'm now leaning towards a pay fer AV.
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IMHO.. there is only 1 clear choice for a PC - Kaspersky. And, you can routinely get dirt cheap year (or more) renews on ebay. I have done it this way for years for my PC dev machine. I have even bought 3 packs of renews and given codes away since I only use 1 code per year.

Kaspersky has a 30 day free trial. Do your research on them, they are an awesome product, CS is great, never had an issue or anything slip by it.
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Hilarious that some people are suggesting paid version$ of McAffee and Norton

ALL the computers I diagnose for friends/family have one of these two installed of them
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Hilarious that some people are suggesting paid version$ of McAffee and Norton

ALL the computers I diagnose for friends/family have one of these two installed of them
I think its fair to say a good amount of us have started there too at one point in time, but I agree, not something I would actually use, let alone spend money to buy considering what else is available on the market.

Its almost hard to avoid them at times, its shipped with PCs from lots of manufactures by default as a trial or 1 year subscription, and also given away as part of ISP plans. Most of their market share is because its packaged with so many products.
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Right because M$ makes the BEST browsers, Windows 8 is SUPER efficient, Vista was GREAT, XP64 was the best, ME was super, Windows 3.0 was AWESOME. /scar-chasm

Windows 7 ALWAYS tells you that ME that I don't have Internet access when I do, they STILL haven't figured out that while right-clicking files the same menu doesn't always pop-up in Windows 7 (x86 & 64bit) until you click it, then have to right click it again, so assume their AV is worth a crap? Let me just leave this here: http://www.howtogeek.com/173291/good...rty-antivirus/

I personally trust it as much as I trust IE (THX to the dubstep'd commercials), or "Verizon Internet Security Suite Anti-Virus Firewall".
So because MS makes lowsy browsers, their security software isn't worth a damn either? Sound logic you have. If you read above, there are others who recommend MSE also.

Anywho, like I stated above, use MSE in conjunction with at least one other anti-malware. NO anti-malware is going to stop 100% of all malware anyway.
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...and the most infected.

Skip any M$ product that is supposed to protect you. SE is like their 3rd attempt at an AV, and still fails more than 3rd party free AVs.

I use Avast free(, used to use AVG until they started hijacking browser searches), Clam for my Windows server (not public-IP accessible).
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Right because M$ makes the BEST browsers, Windows 8 is SUPER efficient, Vista was GREAT, XP64 was the best, ME was super, Windows 3.0 was AWESOME. /scar-chasm

Windows 7 ALWAYS tells you that ME that I don't have Internet access when I do, they STILL haven't figured out that while right-clicking files the same menu doesn't always pop-up in Windows 7 (x86 & 64bit) until you click it, then have to right click it again, so assume their AV is worth a crap? Let me just leave this here: http://www.howtogeek.com/173291/good...rty-antivirus/

I personally trust it as much as I trust IE (THX to the dubstep'd commercials), or "Verizon Internet Security Suite Anti-Virus Firewall".



Yeeeeaaaahhhh ...

Since MSSE was released, I haven't had a single infection of any sort, and trust me ... if ANYONE was going to get infected, it would be me. Yes, I also have a paid subscription to MBAM as a backstop, but it's just been sitting there doing absolutely nothing for years.
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I have a back up laptop that I don't use for much that I just use MS security essentials on. I haven't had any issues, but then I don't use the lap top for much.

On my main PC's, I've been using ESET Nod 32 for awhile now. I haven't had any issues running it. If you wait for a sale, you can often get it for $20 to $40 at places like Fry's. It just depends on if they are doing a sale or rebate at the store.

I like ESET because it is not very resource intensive. I used to run it on a very old XP machine and the PC had no issues running it at all nor did ESET seem like it was slowing it down much.
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Watch the FRYS website. You can get a full paid version for the price of tax (5-10 bucks) after a mail in rebate. Been doing it for years. 3 PC License. Right now Im using Kaspersky with no problems. I use it for parental control as well.

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Since you're going to surf the web of pron (kudos on the honesty )I would just create a virtual machine using Virtualbox. Once you have your base system/programs/configurations, create a snapshot. Then have at it. Once you're done, just restore the snapshot and any spyware/adware/virus will be gone. The notion of, "you get what you pay for" doesn't completely apply when it comes to software. Just because it's free, doesn't mean it's inferior. Look at most distributions of Linux as an example. Like others have said, load AVG free edition, Malwarebytes and AdBlocker Plus. IMO, the most common ways of getting a virus is installing "pre-required" apps in order to watch bootleg shows/movies/sports.
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5+ years using AVG and other freeware like Super Antivirus...never a problem. Can't stand McAfee and NOrton...bloatware that slows systems.
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Not sure if you have a Fry's Electronics near you, but if you do just go there and get a Norton Antivirus. Fry's has a very large rebate which makes Norton cost anywhere between $0-$30 most of the time.
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I dumped norton as it was too intrusive.

I now use Kaspersky along with 3 anti spyware / malware programs.


The combo seems to work really well
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For AV I use Avast! It's a free antivirus with basic protection but you can pay a sub for a much more comprehensive protection. In 8 years of using it though, I've never (knock on wood) had a virus. I use it in conjunction with Google Chrome and run adblock plus.
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surf your porn in windows XP mode. Make a back up of the virtual pc. If it gets a virus just load the backup and delete the one with the virus. Rinse repeat.
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Avast FTW!

Other than donations, I havent paid for an AV program in 13 years. Never had any problems. Avast has saved my *** many many times...

Its funny that some people think they cant get a good program for free. As if paying for something makes it any better? The two most used AV programs that I have seen mess up peoples computers and miss viruses are Norton and McAffee. Over bloated programs with over bloated price tags. I really cant say much about them though considering I havent used them for over a decade. I notice that on family and friends comps, when they ask me to fix them, they are always running those two AV programs. I tell them to delete them once the subscription is over and download Avast. They thank me every time.

There are developers out there that believe programs should be FREE and design the worlds best programs just because they love programming. There are also people out there that pay them large sums of money to support their cause because they believe in what they are doing.

When you use programs like Avast that are "free", you can upgrade for a price (still cheaper and better than the other AV programs) or you can donate (which I suggest doing)

I do agree with Peter Steele though. MS essentials is pretty damn good! I use their FW exclusively. So much better than setting exceptions and all that other BS. I feel more comfortable with Avast though. Not because I dont have faith in MS but because I love Avast...lol
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Wow ... that is pretty ignorant advice. If you have Windows 7 or 8, MS's own Security Essentials is probably THE best anti-malware available for the OS. I'd like to see proof where third-party AV software alone is better than MS SE. MS SE will stop most of all direct attacks against the MS OS -- that's what it was made to do, duh. Besides, it's already there with your OS and it's essentially free. Use it, just add another anti-malware software.
Actually he gave excellent advice, you just don't want to believe it. AV Tests rates the free MS product's protection with a zero out of a possible six points with both Win 7 and 8 while giving other free tools middle to high scores.

http://www.av-test.org/en/home/
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www.av-test.org/en/home does bi-monthly tests of anti-virus products. Do some research and pick your favorite. Here is the most recent test.
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