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You do realize that the purpose of this forum is to work to restore the rights of citizens to have and carry arms (i.e. weapons) like the knife you were so afraid of right?
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Now that you have explained your fear of knives, your position makes sense. Yet, your fears should have no impact on how others choose to live their lives.
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There is a time and place for everything. Didn't anyone teach you that? Did the OP use the knife at the range? What would he use his knife for at a developed shooting range? Is there a need for a fixed blade over 4 inches when you are working on firearms that have very small intricate parts? Are you even thinking? I'm all for big cool dangerous stuff, but I don't carry my fixed blade to photography classes, because I use things for their purpose. Not for showing off how big my knife is. Just like I wouldn't walk down the street OCing a AR-15. There is no benefit but attention from others and an unwieldy knife slapping my side. The worst person with a weapon is an untrained one..... I though common sense was common.
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That pen you just signed in with is JUST as leathal as the knife in my pocket provided you have the knowledge. You forget, this is a gun range. With lots of people and loaded weapons. How far do you think this person is going to get with that knife and a room full of armed citizens? The most leathal item in that room is someone with a brain... That's my guess as to why he was asked to leave. To the OP. I agree with the YELP recommendations. Make your comments on YELP and find another range to attend.
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I love knives and guns equally and always take my knife collection with me shooting.
I edc a benchmade lfti and some days I carry a seal pup in its sheath sideways. In the small pouch is firestarter, bandaids, superglue, and some rope. No one has ever said anything but good things about my fixed blade or benchmade. The only thing I though was gonna be bad ended up being very positive and I got her number because I was "a real life bear grylls" ha ha ha Threads like this remind me why the world is a piece of crap, why we will never have our rights back, and why I only frequent national forests to shoot freely. Your all *****ing and whining about a silly knife while the antis are dancing around the courts stripping our freedoms further... Remember, to each their own, try and be a little more understanding of your fellow man. |
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Yeah Im not getting the logic here but then again its california and therefore not required. Who is afraid of one guy with a knife when theres dozens of guys with guns around? Now if he was being an idiot with it waving it around that would be one thing but really just walkin around with it on? Now admittedly I cant really think of a reason to have a big fixed blade at a range off the top of my head but Im sure the guy had his reasons.
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Define an 'intelligent' rule. You're at a firing range. There are deadly weapons EVERYWHERE including the vehicles in the parking lot. A large fixed blade on someone's hip is the least of my worries. I have a large folding knife in my pocket almost every waking moment. The distinction is that it's a large, visible 'hunting' or 'fighting' knife in most people's minds. Never mind that there's no legal limit to the length of a concealed folding knife, meaning I can legally concealed carry something like a Camillus Cuda Maxx. A large fixed blade attracts attention, makes people uncomfortable, and the range decides they're going to prohibit that part of one's right to self-defense so they don't get complaints. It's the same as PETA going after fur and ignoring - for the most part - leather. Low-hanging fruit. Easy target.
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Guns, Fishing, and Other Stuff in Vacaville has an indoor range and retail store, and a huge "No Loaded Firearms Allowed" sign on both of their entrance doors. They also have a "Law Enforcement Must Declare" posted there as well. It costs them a lot of business. Most LEO's I've talked to have had bad experiences there, FUD is rampant, and the overall attitude from the people there is one of arrogance and superiority.
If you can't trust armed LEO's in the building or Licensed Citizens, much less someone carrying a knife on a range full of loaded firearms, you're simply crazy or just have an insecurity complex. The people carrying concealed illegal weapons will still carry regardless, whereas disarming and controlling licensed people will only hurt business and reduce your chances for survival in a hostile situation. I'm with 10mm on this one. Does he need the knife? Sure, if it's his tool of choice. He's legally carrying the tool, and not threatening anyone. It's simply another case of overbearing control freak range masters at work, exerting their control and authority where and when they can. Yolo Sportman's club also used to have an old fart like that. The guy loved to lecture on any topic he could, and always stopped the entire shooting line, so he'd have a captive audience to lecture to at the expense of the targeted victim. __
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Something that we all need to keep in mind about the knife the OP was carrying, we're talking about a 6-inch fixed blade. Go google the Chris Reeve Neil Robers knife, and you'll see that we are not talking about some knife that came off the set of Rambo III. That blade is barely longer that the folder that I carry with me every day. The RO was just looking for someone new to pick on, and the OP happened to stand out because there was a visible target he could go after. I don't see any reason why anyone should have a problem with someone having a fixed blade with them at the range. You may not see the need or use case for it, but that doesn't mean the OP should have to justify why he has it. It's a slippery slope to start poking holes in people's rights just because you can't understand why they would or wouldn't take advantage of those rights. Especially considering the hobby that we all enjoy so much.
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All I can say is, I would rather have it and not need it, rather then to need it and not have it!!!
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Because it doesn't fold up to fit in my pocket.
You must have been one of those children who always said "why?" after ever answer... |
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For me never, and for the majority of the thousands of miles and hundreds of nights I've spent in the wilderness I hadn't needed one either. Why carry nearly a pound around when something that weighs 2.3oz can do the same?
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“War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.” John Stuart Mill English economist & philosopher (1806 – 1873) Last edited by Rhythm of Life; 04-13-2012 at 12:56 AM.. |
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I'm with the majority here. It makes no difference why he was carrying a fixed blade at the range. When I'm out in the desert the fixed blade I carry rarely leaves the sheath, and even then it may only be to admire it. Maybe he had it for utility purposes, or maybe he wanted to wear it for looks. Either way, he is not a threat on a live firing line.
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You don't need a full 2500 calories. You don't need this expensive surgery. You don't need prompt service from a bureaucrat, because you don't need to spend your time in productive or enjoyable ways. Take your bread and water and shut up. Your next appointment, if you survive, is in two years. Stand in line and wait while the paper pusher takes a lunch break. Is this matter in need of further elucidation? |
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You'd better not check out the knife thread about what all of your fellow CalGuns shooters carry around on their person everyday... lulz
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Don't think that approach will work and your range would more likely fail than succeed? Now you can understand their business decisions. |
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Metcalf is a public range with public buildings. Make sure you know the knife laws before going there.
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Can you cite the law you are quoting please? I thought schools, hospitals and court houses where the only places you couldn't have a sheathed blade. Correct me if I'm wrong please.
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Los Altos, eh? I had one of these on the bench the whole time I was there a couple weeks ago and nobody gave me any flak for it. Think it makes a difference if you don't wear the knife and just leave it ahead of the firing line?
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Next time I go to LARG I'll wear my 6" buck. It is NOT illegal unless concieled. No one can tell me not to wear it unless I am breaking the law. There is NOTHING in their written rules that says I cannot wear a knife or have a fixed bayonet. If it is not written in black and white. You have broken NO range rules. You just had a dickhead RO. I think I know who.... I'll let you know how it goes.
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Your funny pal. Good one
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