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CBS: Police can confiscate high cap mags/clips as public nuisance
Sorry if this has been posted already. I did a search and nothing came up.
A proposed municipal ordinance is in the works; http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2013/...blic-nuisance/
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This has lawsuit written all over it.
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Mag Ban L.A. - City meeting 2/22
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=709700 audio http://www.lacity.org/government/Ele...aCategory=1814 needs windows but this would be a follow up or just the time it takes the media to report on things..
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Unrealistic. Unlawful. Unintelligent.
But I do have some questions.... If, for some miracle, this ordnance does take effect, how does LEOs .. "the rank & file" guys feel about putting their lives even more in danger with confiscation? How many citizens would react violently to "gestapo"-like tactics this type of ordnance MIGHT bring? This one is easy... Are Anti-gunners and liberals running out of idiotic ideas?
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I just cant see an idea like this ending well....
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That's the point, it would end badly. That's why we don't ever want it to happen. (at least that's how I interpreted this post)
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well that was my 3rd rewrite, all other statements i wanted to post might have landed me behind bars.
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Thank you, your work is greatly appreciated!
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if mags are a public nuisance then wtf are the police using them
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Lordy cakes! The government is truly out of control. With all their problems, they want to confiscate magazines, and Carmen Trutanich, a politician we were told to support, spearheads the movement? I thought when you became a lawyer you took an oath to uphold and defend the constitution of the United States?
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Listen to this. Advance it to 10:15. Its an interview of Dr. Paul Craig Roberts former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan Administration. |
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I was advised at CCW class to NOT carry mags over ten rounds, even if you have legal ones that are larger. Why? Because of this.
YES it is illegal. But.... YES you will get arrested; YES you can lose your CCW; YES you may get cleared in court, but YES it will cost you time, money, and heartache to do it.
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The people have a fundamental right to keep and bear firearms for self-defense, including those in common use which use magazines having a capacity of greater than 10 rounds.-Brandon
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Fixed that for you. |
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Yes thank you, sorry about that! I wonder if stupid state laws get passed this same way.
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If one of us stole a citizen's legally owned private property and had it destroyed just because we didn't like it, we would be held liable and probably be criminally charged. This should be no different if a government agent did the same.
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No ****.
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No, the entire issue ends in FUD, but the cops can still haul you in. It is the COPS who teach the class and the COPS who tell you what they will haul you in for. The fact that you are right and they are wrong does NOT mean your day will not be ruined just the same.
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COPS are not lawyers. COPS regularly violate peoples' rights. COPS may haul you in, but THEY will go for a ride (as long as you really didn't break the law).
If you want to avoid risk, carry unicorn horns and glitter. Otherwise, know the law better than the cops - and when to STFU. Oh, and this. -Brandon Quote:
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YES you might get arrested, however a DA would be unable to issue based on lack of corpus NO you would not loose CCW unless charged and convicted (go back to previous YES YES you would be cleared in court if it gets that far YES it may cost time and money BUT it will cost only if you fail to pursue the false arrest and or wrongful prosecution. Bottom line know the laws and stick up for yourself. PS: CCW classes are supposed to inform you as to the state of the law, the state of the law is no deep dark secret read it yourself. Bought an M&P 15-22 last month and they tried to make me sign a statement verifying that I was aware that a bullet button was required. Kind of tired of so-called experts in these gun laws not knowing squat. |
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But they get away with all they do.
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Well I know people have had their lawfully owned 30 round magazines confiscated by law enforcement and destroyed due to that state law. There's more than one thread about it happening on here.
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Wow. More info and links please.
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It is completely unlawful/unconstitutional for a county, city, or other small municipality to pass any laws or ordinances that are stricter then state law. It is in violation of the commerce clause. Once passed it will have an injunction put on it (at least should) because it violates the 4th Amendment rights of citizens that dont live in city limits but have to travel through to get to their destination.
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Yes, you're wrong. Cities have to be mindful of state preemption and the Constitution.
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I recall that some had more trepidation over that support than others. Nuff said.
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won't the city have to PROVE that the magazine was not legally owned prior to 2000? I mean short of watching you drive home from Reno with them, having mags for a gun that didn't exist prior to 2000 or admitting to manufacture they've got a tough row to hoe.
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