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9mm Accuracy, any type of bullet that is regarded as best or better than others?
Sorta Newbie, starting to reload much more 9mm, 115 and 124 grain, usually jacketed bullets. I have loaded lead bullets in the past with 231 but thought them a bit smoky. I recently bought a CZ Tactical Sport, addressed a vision issue and my accuracy has really improved. I will primarily be reloading for that gun and am waiting to get a 40 S&W upper/slide for it, so if they are ever in stock again I will be shooting .40 too.
I understand that powder type and charge have a great deal to do with accuracy, but is there any generally accepted premise as to what type of bullet is most accurate for target shooting? Such as round nose, hollow points, flat points or ? Do some find more accuracy, all other things being the same, using plated bullets? If so, same question as to type of plated bullets. I have ordered from Rocky Mountain, Montana Gold and Berry's, but not Zero. What brand, if any seems to be the most accurate? Is there any consensus on that? Does accuracy withing a brand vary or are certain types generally more accurate? Am I overlooking any good supplier of bulk 9mm bullets? I know there is one in Nevada, but can't recall the name at this time. |
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115s seem to vary more in FPS with my testing.
As far as accuracy, that really depends on how accurate you are with charging your loads with powder, and the quality of bore in the firearm. Hornady 9mm bullets shoot the same as Xtreme, consistent in weight. But like I mentioned it really comes down your quality control. |
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For an accurate bullet, it is generally accepted that a jacketed bullet will be more consistent than a plated bullet.
A JHP offers the advantage of having a more consistent base than a FMJ, because the jacket is formed from the bottom up leaving a more uniform base. More bearing surface usually yields more accuracy due to it's increased interface with the rifling. Within the weight ranged stated in the OP, I'd recommend you try the RMR 124gr MPR JHP ($99/k). If you want to save a little money, an excellent bullet is their 124gr MatchWinner FMJ FN ($82/k) Prices include shipping and they ship Priority Mail in a couple of days Quote:
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I did accuracy testing on a bunch of 9mm bullets while working up a new IDPA load. Now granted, these results are from one gun. Montana Golds proved to be the most accurate, followed closely by Hornady XTPs. Definitely more accurate than any plain lead bullets I tried. In my testing, plated were the worst of all. Plain lead outshot plated pretty much every time.
Recently I have been shooting a lot of the polymer-coated bullets, and have been quite happy with the accuracy. In fact, the Bayou Bullet 160gr shoots as well (in the 2 guns I’ve tested thus far) as the 130gr Montana Gold at nearly double the price. In reality, only your gun can answer this question. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk |
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Are you talking brand?
Jacketed vs lead vs plated vs coated? Shape? Hollow point, truncated cone, round nose, semi wad cutter? Weight? 115, 124, 135, 147, X? I can only tell you that I like 124 grn round nose coated bullets for the following reasons; Coated = cheaper than jacketed, less messy than lead with wax ring. 124 gn = shoots well, less sluggish slide action than 147, less sharp than 115 (Subjective) Seems like most 9mms are setup to like this round as I believe Nato rounds are 124. Roundnose = for me, most reliable. Round nose gives a good ogive for my short throated guns. Some long flatpoints (147s) give me feeding issues sometimes. That's just me. However, you can make most bullet weights/shape/coating work for you.. until you get into the heabier bullets which may not spin well and keyhole, or at least they do unless you can figure them out. I've had too much trouble with 147s to like them.
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OP,
I reload using TiteGroup and Berry's 9mm pills. Mostly, I've used 115 grains, but have also used 124 grain pills. My Sig P226 (was .40, but I am using a Sig kit on it) and the 115s are mostly getting me 1" to 2" groupings off hand with the load that I use; that is when I don't go shooting after a rat ton of caffiene. To verify it, I am also shooting them out of a 1918 Erfuhrt Luger with similar accuracy, although the Luger has vestigial little sights, so the accuracy is a bit more difficult from a sighting perspective. I also use an XD 9, but the groupings are a bit high and wider. Just an opinion from the experiences of another shooter.
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I think truncated cone, semi-wadcutter, or round-flat bullets give tighter groups than round-nose bullets. I think the round-nose bullets have less bearing surface than a TC, SWC, or RF bullet of comparable weight.
Your mileage may vary. For those who buy Berry's. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1408706 .
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I have never loaded for 9mm Luger. My shooting team members shoot Winchester RA9T ammo (147 gr subsonic JHP) for their competition. I have tested it and they are very accurate. I know they sell the bullets as reloading component. Maybe you can try it to see if it is accurate for you.
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9mm and accuracy. Man that’s a funny one!!!
Seriously though, consider that you’re shooting out of a 4” barrel most likely and mostly under 10yds. For you to determine significant differences in accuracy you’d need a ransom rest. And you’d have to load for accuracy which is really not worth it for 9mm. Odds are your loads and gun are more accurate than you are. If you’re not getting say 4-6” groups at 10 yds then it’s you or the gun. Better shooting skill will tighten that up. Some guns will like 115’s and some will eat up 147’s. That’s about as far as you’re really practically going to get. Find that. Load that. Shoot that.
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Here is some 9mm testing setup 50m result: Even factory ammo at 50' is respectable. Please ignore 22 testing on the upper groups. 9mm is very competitive and usable in the Precision Pistol matches (Bullseye) if done right. Quote:
https://www.precisiondelta.com/products/bullets/9mm/ Quote:
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JHP have a slight edge over FMJ in accuracy, but require thorough testing for correct OAL, especially for short chambered CZ barrels.[/QUOTE]
Is that last group iwith Precision Delta 124 g JHP over Titegroup? If so, what charge and what pistol? |
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Pistol CZ75 SP-01. My practice load for indoor range, where JHP are not allowed. Good up to 20-25m. On longer distances JHP win. |
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