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Old 07-08-2018, 7:00 PM
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Just got the letter of acceptance for 3 - 80% AR pistols VolReg. Only received an email 2 weeks ago that they were under review...no other contact made. 3 months total from application date.

Entered the 80% lower manufacturer on the application instead of US. I doubt you will have an issue.
What date is the letter?
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Old 07-13-2018, 7:27 PM
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80% non-AW pistol, is it OK to put an upper + barrel (NO BCG or CH) onto the gun? Or would I be in BBAW territory for constructive possession since the BCG/CH are nearby? I have not received my AR maglock yet and I uninstalled the BB (there is currently no mag release in the gun)
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Old 07-18-2018, 9:50 AM
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I am currently trying to register a self built lower that DOES NOT have a current serial number. Built in mid 2016, this was a single shot AR9 converted to semi auto.

I understand I need to apply for the USNA and Personal Firearms Eligibility Check via mail.

My biggest concern is that because there is no serial number on it - it is deemed illegal, how can I go about submitting my application without incriminating myself?

Should I state that the firearm is a single shot rather than a semi?

Please let me know whats the best way to proceed without burning myself. Thank you.




Hey everyone,

I took said advice for only filling in the drop down menus only with the asterisks. However, I received an email for an incomplete application stating that:

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On 07/17/2018 13:10:43, Admin wrote: Thank you for submitting your application. Please select the category for your pistol from the drop down list."



The receiver was a single shot converted to a semi auto - my plan was to select the single shot option. Does anyone have objections or thoughts before I submit?
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Old 07-18-2018, 10:59 AM
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Hey everyone,

I took said advice for only filling in the drop down menus only with the asterisks. However, I received an email for an incomplete application stating that:

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On 07/17/2018 13:10:43, Admin wrote: Thank you for submitting your application. Please select the category for your pistol from the drop down list."



The receiver was a single shot converted to a semi auto - my plan was to select the single shot option. Does anyone have objections or thoughts before I submit?
I registered mine as semi-auto. I thought it would be incorrect to register as something it was not anymore (single shot).
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I registered mine as semi-auto. I thought it would be incorrect to register as something it was not anymore (single shot).
were you able to get accepted?
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Old 07-18-2018, 12:31 PM
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Thank you Mosin, I submitted as semi-auto
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Old 07-18-2018, 12:45 PM
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pictures not required for volreg. shoacahalica obviously has not applied.
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Old 07-18-2018, 12:55 PM
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Amybody tried requesting a serial for an 80 % pistol in order to vol reg now that we are in a different time frame?

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80% non-AW pistol, is it OK to put an upper + barrel (NO BCG or CH) onto the gun? Or would I be in BBAW territory for constructive possession since the BCG/CH are nearby? I have not received my AR maglock yet and I uninstalled the BB (there is currently no mag release in the gun)
There is generally no constructive possession of AW's as evidenced by the fact that DOJ says that if it's disassembled, it's not an AW.

No magazine catch AT ALL is NOT A FIXED MAGAZINE.

If you assemble an AR lower reciever into a pistol configuration with an upper/barrel/bolt carrier, it's an AW because it accepts a magazine outside of the pistol grip and does not have a fixed magazine.

Be sure your magazine is fixed in place before you install an upper.
Be sure your upper is removed before you remove your magazine.
Never assemble the upper to the lower without a magazine fixed in place.

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i got my volreg confirmation letters today one letter per firearm

they confirm serial make model and caliber but they do not specify rifle, pistol,shotgun

i have to applaud the doj they did their job in a timely fashion in my judgement
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Old 07-18-2018, 6:18 PM
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i got my volreg confirmation letters today one letter per firearm

they confirm serial make model and caliber but they do not specify rifle, pistol,shotgun

i have to applaud the doj they did their job in a timely fashion in my judgement
Just wondering, did DoJ previously send anything to you dated prior to July 1st? And when'd you fill out the volreg?
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Old 07-18-2018, 6:34 PM
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i got my volreg confirmation letters today one letter per firearm

they confirm serial make model and caliber but they do not specify rifle, pistol,shotgun

i have to applaud the doj they did their job in a timely fashion in my judgement
Were these frame/receiver only? Did you submit photos for them?
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Old 07-18-2018, 7:02 PM
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I received a notice yesterday via an admin comment about some information I need to clarify on CFARS. Unfortunately, the system won't allow me to push the application through and is now telling me "self-built firearms can no longer be registered using this form." I submitted this back in April before a DOJ issued serial number was required and am at a loss. How then do I go about correcting this if I can't push the form through? Am I just missing something obvious? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 07-18-2018, 9:38 PM
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i got my volreg confirmation letters today one letter per firearm

they confirm serial make model and caliber but they do not specify rifle, pistol,shotgun

i have to applaud the doj they did their job in a timely fashion in my judgement
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Old 07-18-2018, 10:12 PM
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Old 07-18-2018, 10:17 PM
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Were these frame/receiver only? Did you submit photos for them?
they were complete so i could fill out the barrel lengfth and calibers

no photos needed
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Old 07-19-2018, 5:16 AM
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i got my volreg confirmation letters today one letter per firearm

they confirm serial make model and caliber but they do not specify rifle, pistol,shotgun

i have to applaud the doj they did their job in a timely fashion in my judgement
Man, I submitted mine mid May and haven't heard a peep...I have been checking my transaction history and issue logs twice a day since. Hopefully something shows up sometime soon. Hopefully its acceptance letters and not agents.
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Old 07-19-2018, 10:05 PM
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Man, I submitted mine mid May and haven't heard a peep...I have been checking my transaction history and issue logs twice a day since. Hopefully something shows up sometime soon. Hopefully its acceptance letters and not agents.
if they didnt cash your check in 2 weeks its probably lost in the mail i really do not know what your recourse is or would have been back then

its not like you can call and ask if you got it

and if you sent in a duplicate a month later you would be out an additional $20 if they did it twice
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Old 07-19-2018, 10:56 PM
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I did my submission online. Payment was pretty much "cashed" right away. I'm going to chalk it up to backlog and wait and see what happens. Just good to know volregs are being processed, I guess...
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I have a question, with all of these open tickets has anyone heard of or seen CA DOJ checking serials at the range?
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Old 07-20-2018, 5:35 AM
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I received a notice yesterday via an admin comment about some information I need to clarify on CFARS. Unfortunately, the system won't allow me to push the application through and is now telling me "self-built firearms can no longer be registered using this form." I submitted this back in April before a DOJ issued serial number was required and am at a loss. How then do I go about correcting this if I can't push the form through? Am I just missing something obvious? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
I heard of this same thing happening to someone else too. Pretty messed up.
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Old 07-20-2018, 1:22 PM
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Got 'submission confirmation' emails for the last of my 80s. Rifles and pistols. Took about 3.5 weeks on average from registration to the email. Looking forward to the paper letters in about a week.
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Old 07-20-2018, 1:54 PM
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There is generally no constructive possession of AW's as evidenced by the fact that DOJ says that if it's disassembled, it's not an AW.

No magazine catch AT ALL is NOT A FIXED MAGAZINE.

If you assemble an AR lower reciever into a pistol configuration with an upper/barrel/bolt carrier, it's an AW because it accepts a magazine outside of the pistol grip and does not have a fixed magazine.

Be sure your magazine is fixed in place before you install an upper.
Be sure your upper is removed before you remove your magazine.
Never assemble the upper to the lower without a magazine fixed in place.

If I have no bolt carrier group in the upper, I’m safe, correct? I am fitting parts together at the moment and testing. Wanted to make sure I’m in the clear before leaving it in the safe between fitting sessions. (It cannot fire in the state it is in now.)
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Old 07-20-2018, 3:11 PM
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If I have no bolt carrier group in the upper, I’m safe, correct? I am fitting parts together at the moment and testing. Wanted to make sure I’m in the clear before leaving it in the safe between fitting sessions. (It cannot fire in the state it is in now.)
As safe as you can be in California as a AR-15-style rifle owner.

(hh) “Semiautomatic” means a firearm functionally able to fire a single cartridge, eject the empty case, and reload the chamber each time the trigger is pulled and released. Further, certain necessary mechanical parts that will allow a firearm to function in a semiautomatic nature must be present for a weapon to be deemed semiautomatic. A weapon clearly designed to be semiautomatic but lacking a firing pin, bolt carrier, gas tube, or some other crucial part of the firearm is not semiautomatic for purposes of Penal Code sections 30515, 30600, 30605(a), and 30900.
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Got 'submission confirmation' emails for the last of my 80s. Rifles and pistols. Took about 3.5 weeks on average from registration to the email. Looking forward to the paper letters in about a week.
When did you register the last of your 80s?
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Old 07-20-2018, 3:18 PM
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When did you register the last of your 80s?
June 29. FWIW I regd my 9mm lowers first on 6/26 but they were approved last. Not sure if the nonstandard look made them take longer.
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Got 'submission confirmation' emails for the last of my 80s. Rifles and pistols. Took about 3.5 weeks on average from registration to the email. Looking forward to the paper letters in about a week.
Hmmmm I did my 80%'s 6/14, haven't heard anything still showing "In Progress"
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Hmmmm I did my 80%'s 6/14, haven't heard anything still showing "In Progress"
I did 6 on 5/31 and still haven't heard anything either.
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Old 07-20-2018, 11:10 PM
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I went back and forth the last month on whether to wait or volreg my 80s before cut off. When i see a success come thru i kick myself for deciding to wait and just bend over and ask them for to please give me a number but the guys out here doing the waiting game or getting kicked back... Well that might have sucked more.

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I went back and forth the last month on whether to wait or volreg my 80s before cut off. When i see a success come thru i kick myself for deciding to wait and just bend over and ask them for to please give me a number but the guys out here doing the waiting game or getting kicked back... Well that might have sucked more.

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i freaked out internally thinking if i wait i may have to pay $15 per for an issued number

i was thinking it would be more convienient to only have to stamp their number on

as opposed to my name and city
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So AB 857 says if you own a firearm without a serial number on it, you need to apply to the DOJ for one by January 1, 2019.

Which form would you use on CFARS to get one?
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So AB 857 says if you own a firearm without a serial number on it, you need to apply to the DOJ for one by January 1, 2019.

Which form would you use on CFARS to get one?
https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/usna
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Old 07-23-2018, 2:31 PM
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I think you have to use the USNA and BOF 120 after June 30th 2018.
BOF 1008 does not have a place to put payment info and the USNA now requires payment.

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I think you have to use the USNA and BOF 120 after June 30th 2018.
BOF 1008 does not have a place to put payment info and the USNA now requires payment.
I stand corrected. Thank you.
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I stand corrected. Thank you.
I did eight 1008's to get my AW serials issued and then paid just one $15 registration fee for all my AW reg's and then one $19 fee for all my Volregs.

The new USNA process is $20 for the eligibility check and then $15 per serial number.

30 self builds would have run me $470 in fees under the new process...
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Meh. $470 across 30 guns isn’t that much if you consider CA taxes and fees for buying from an FFL. I was typically spending almost $250 in taxes and fees per single out of state gun.
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I built my 80% AR-15 this past Feb, before the rush to get parts and serialize before the deadline. Then I learned registration of self-manufactured firearms is mandatory. I put my volreg for custom serial# in March (basic data entered: U S, no pics..etc). I didn't get a response that it was processing until middle of June. I got my registration letter end of June.
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Has anyone submitted a request after July 1st for a 80%pistol? I have searched and even called atf and cal DOJ about what I need to do. I have a pistol from an 80% that is maglocked and even serialized with my own markings. But i don't know what if anything else needs to be done. I did see that a rifle needs to get a serial number from DOJ but what about pistols builds? Thanks guys
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