Orange

[Browneye]

Originally Posted by francisk

Hey Calgunners!
What's the best way to sell some guns on my ccw list?
Do I have to do the amendment first? or can I sell them first and then do an amendment?
Reason I ask is because I might be adding a couple of guns later this month and I don't want to be doing multiple amendments.
Any ideas?

Thanks

You can drop your sold ones off your permit when you add your new ones.
There's nothing to stop you from selling a firearm that is on your carry permit. You just can't carry it anymore if you don't own it.

[Yodaman]

Originally Posted by Browneye

You can drop your sold ones off your permit when you add your new ones.

There's nothing to stop you from selling a firearm that is on your carry permit. You just can't carry it anymore if you don't own it.

I’m not sure the above is correct. I could be wrong, but I don’t think I am.

To my understanding, OCSD says if you are not the current registered owner of the firearm, you cannot have it on your CCW.


Just call them. Quick call I’m sure.


But you can add and drop at the same time, then sell.

As opposed to having a firearm on your card, and not being the current owner.

[Browneye]

Originally Posted by Yodaman

I’m not sure the above is correct. I could be wrong, but I don’t think I am.

To my understanding, OCSD says if you are not the current registered owner of the firearm, you cannot have it on your CCW.


Just call them. Quick call I’m sure.


But you can add and drop at the same time, then sell.

As opposed to having a firearm on your card, and not being the current owner.

Makes sense to me. Easy phone call...

[francisk]

Thanks everyone! I'll add and drop at the same time. Makes more sense this way.

[Chai18]

Originally Posted by RoofTopKorean

I applied for my CCW 11/26/18 and got a interview on 11/28/19. I think the interview went well and I had to make some corrections because Turners in Pasadena wrote the serial number for my handgun incorrectly, then got the live scan and training done. It’s been about 3 months now and I’m wondering what the normal time frame to getting a ccw is?

I applied for my CCW 01/01/19 and got a interview on 01/02/19 got the live scan and training done. Had any additional information and corrections done by 01/28/19
my status is still pending is this the regular wait time in Orange County? Are others having a similar experience?

[Albs]

Second renewal

CCW expires: 4/10/2019

Renewal application sent: 1/28/2019
CCW Training: 2/12/2019
Additional documentation request; regarding good cause: 2/14/2019
Additional documentation sent: 2/14/2019
Additional documentation request; regarding employer: 2/21/2019
Additional documentation sent: 2/22/2019
Approval email: 2/28/2019

Will pick up after 4/1/2019

[Albs]

Originally Posted by Chai18

I applied for my CCW 01/01/19 and got a interview on 01/02/19 got the live scan and training done. Had any additional information and corrections done by 01/28/19
my status is still pending is this the regular wait time in Orange County? Are others having a similar experience?

4 years ago when I applied I had to wait 6 months for my interview, so my standards are quite low. OCSD has made great improvements with their CCW process, but yes what you're experiencing is normal.

[RoofTopKorean]

Update. I got approval and actually picked up the license on 20th.

[Citadelgrad87]

Originally Posted by Citadelgrad87

Update.

Renewal time line:

License expires 3/22.

Submitted renewal packet, complete, with training certificate: 1/08/2019

Last go around, i submitted 90 days early but was not renewed until after my permit had expired.

Instant email acknowledging receipt of my packet.

Request for supporting documentation: 1/22/2019

Additional documentation provided: 1/22/2019

Acknowledgment of complete packet moving for final review: 1/23/2019

That email said i will hear back for pickup date closer to my expiry date.

This was my second renewal, hard to beleive its been 6 years with a permit. My first electronic renewal, and i am very happy with the new system.

Originally Posted by Citadelgrad87

Update.

February 4 I got two emails and a robocall voice mail telling me to come pick up my permit. The last email was signed by a real human and had red writing instructing me to pick up any day after March 3, no appointment needed.

Thats less than 30 days for a renewal, folks.

Picked up today at about 1 p.m. no appointment, one other CG member was picking up at the same time. Fifteen minute drive from my office, i was gone for about 45 minutes. Everyone was polite and cheerful. ,

New permit effective 3/21.

Still says renew 90 days early. They are running way faster than that.

Also, new directive as of my pickup, ANY police interaction other than a wave js to be reported, “including if you just get a warning”, whihc they stated is a recent change.

[CrazyJeep]

Just posting this for reference for others regarding amendments.

Wanted to add an off roster G43 that I had purchased a few months ago but was holding off as I was in the midst of moving from Buena Park to another city in Orange County.

Amendment request for the following items:

• New physical address
• Newer job description, company, and location (now in OC as well)
• Added G43 to my ID

Submitted all necessary docs last night (3-10-19) at 10pm, received an email today at 3-11-19 stating my amendment was approved and I can pick up my updated CCW anytime.

[hbmoose]

For my second renewal since its being done online. Do I wait for some kind of prelim approval before getting the training out of the way? Or just do it? I know it needs to get done anyways but I'm just curious about the online process.

Online renewal submitted and payed for on Feb 24 all docs uploaded no news since.

Thanks.

[love4guns]

Just for reference... had interview dec 3rd and got my approval today.


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[Citadelgrad87]

Originally Posted by hbmoose

For my second renewal since its being done online. Do I wait for some kind of prelim approval before getting the training out of the way? Or just do it? I know it needs to get done anyways but I'm just curious about the online process.

Online renewal submitted and payed for on Feb 24 all docs uploaded no news since.

Thanks.

Your renewal is not considered complete until the training cert is sent to the ocsd

You will get a refund of the payment, they dont take payments online. Bring a paper check when you pick up your license.

[pklin1297]

My CCW expires on 6/2/19. I tried to submit my renewal application on 3/8/19 and a message popped up on OCSD renewal site saying I must apply within 90 days for renewals and then forwarded me to the new license application site. I didn't count the exact number of days but isn't this within 90 days?

[Browneye]

I would call them or drop an email to them and ask. I may well be a counter of sorts haywire, or they changed it, or ??
Or just try it again in a couple of weeks. They're doing them in just a few weeks now, and appointments aren't even needed, you just walk in to pickup. The whole process has been streamlined.
Mine comes up this year too, but not 'till August.

[pklin1297]

Originally Posted by Browneye

I would call them or drop an email to them and ask. I may well be a counter of sorts haywire, or they changed it, or ??
Or just try it again in a couple of weeks. They're doing them in just a few weeks now, and appointments aren't even needed, you just walk in to pickup. The whole process has been streamlined.
Mine comes up this year too, but not 'till August.

Thanks. I kinda figure it might've been a glitch. I'll try again later and if it happens again I'll call them.

Update: Just tried it again and it went through this time without incident. Received email. Already submitted my training cert. so will see if anything else is needed. The new renewal process is definitely an improvement from even just two years ago.

[Dvrjon]

My apologies...had to delete previous stupidity caused by being up all night with sick grandkids.

Parents now have them and I’m goin

[hbmoose]

Citadel--Thank you for that info, much appreciated.

[Charlie52]

I’m 22 and I want to apply for a ccw but want to know the process and the someone to review my good cause act

[Roering]

Originally Posted by Charlie52

I’m 22 and I want to apply for a ccw but want to know the process and the someone to review my good cause act

Generally it goes like this:

Apply online (include good cause as an attachment as well as proof of residency)
Go in for an interview
Afterward you will get an "OK to proceed with your livescan and training
Get your livescan and training done
Submit your training certificate through the online portal
Provide any add'l info. they may request of you
Get notified as to when you can pick up your permit

[Roering]

Originally Posted by jyan21

Hi, I'm a self-employed I.T. professional and I'm thinking about applying for a CCW in OC. My good cause statement is that there are times where I have to visit client offices after hours and at times would have expensive computer equipment with me. What kind of supporting document would I need to upload to support this good cause statement? Or is this not good enough of a statement? Any help is appreciated.

Thanks.

It's not so much about your equipment as it is about you.
You go at night - that's a start
Any sketchy neighborhoods?
Poorly lit parking lots where having your hands full makes you appear to be a target?
Places without security patrolling?

Take some time to flesh this risk out and be prepared to provide pictures.

[Regdog77]

Just submitted my renewal for the first time. What are the time frames I’m looking at? I’m taking the ccw renewal class on April 7th and my ccw expires May 17th. Sent everything I could. ID, passport, proof of residency, crime stats, photos. Hope they don’t request more info.

[tuna quesadilla]

Has anyone had any trouble doing a lot of amendments in a short period of time? Between moving house and adding/removing guns, I'm about to hit amendment number four in about a six month period... OCSD's always been professional and pleasant to deal with, but I'm just wondering if anyone's had their wrist slapped for doing too much?

[Browneye]

Don't worry about it - they want to keep your file current, it's their duty to have current information on their permittees.

[ak4seven]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask but is the thought process for getting a CCW, “if you can buy a firearm, you can get a CCW?”

[pklin1297]

Originally Posted by ak4seven

Not sure if this is the right place to ask but is the thought process for getting a CCW, “if you can buy a firearm, you can get a CCW?”

Not sure what you mean...

If you're asking, if someone is able to purchase a firearm, they'll have no problems being granted a CCW if they apply, then answer is no, because there's a lot more to being qualified for CCW than getting a gun, though getting a gun is an obvious first step.

[ak4seven]

Originally Posted by pklin1297

Not sure what you mean...

If you're asking, if someone is able to purchase a firearm, they'll have no problems being granted a CCW if they apply, then answer is no, because there's a lot more to being qualified for CCW than getting a gun, though getting a gun is an obvious first step.

I should of been more clear. Wondering if the background check is the same process. Meaning NCIS background PASS would mean CCW PASS if one completes the other requirements that’s needed.

[pklin1297]

Originally Posted by ak4seven

I should of been more clear. Wondering if the background check is the same process. Meaning NCIS background PASS would mean CCW PASS if one completes the other requirements that’s needed.

To my knowledge and experience, it is more extensive. I have read threads where supposedly expunged records came back to haunt the applicants; some were eventually granted CCW when they got it sorted out, and some were denied.

[ak4seven]

Originally Posted by pklin1297

To my knowledge and experience, it is more extensive. I have read threads where supposedly expunged records came back to haunt the applicants; some were eventually granted CCW when they got it sorted out, and some were denied.

Hmmm... interesting. So, if one were to get denied CCW, would that in turn make you ineligible for future firearms purchase? I don’t think so but wanted to see if anyone else had experience on this.

[Browneye]

Originally Posted by ak4seven

I should of been more clear. Wondering if the background check is the same process. Meaning NCIS background PASS would mean CCW PASS if one completes the other requirements that’s needed.

Yes, pretty much. The whole idea of 2A.
And you need to be able to articulate your good cause, and able to prove you can hit a target at close range.
So while it's more involved than just buying a firearm, if you can pass the background check (reads: you don't have anything illegal in your background) and pass your training and submit an acceptable GCS, you're golden.

OCSD has issued more than ten thousand permits over the past few years. They're pro-issue.

[Dvrjon]

Originally Posted by ak4seven

I should of been more clear. Wondering if the background check is the same process. Meaning NCIS background PASS would mean CCW PASS if one completes the other requirements that’s needed.

Originally Posted by ak4seven

Hmmm... interesting. So, if one were to get denied CCW, would that in turn make you ineligible for future firearms purchase? I don’t think so but wanted to see if anyone else had experience on this.

Two processes with two different products.

The purchase of a firearm relies wholly on your 2A right to keep and bear arms. Your data from your DL runs against the system looking for prohibitions of ownership. If there are none, then the sale is approved.

For a CCW, the background information is enhanced with a fingerprint requirement. Then, the IA applies their interpretation of the statutory requirement of Good Moral Character. Some IAs have specific statements of what will result in disapproval of an application. In Sacramento, the Sheriff will not issue to individuals deemed unsuitable by CCW Committee/Sheriff for the following reasons:

- Any Arrest in the last 5 years, regardless of the disposition.
- Any Conviction in the last 7 years.
- Dishonesty on the application and/or during interview or failure to disclose information.
- Pattern of Irresponsibility including but not limited to suspended driver’s license, numerous traffic citations, or civil lawsuits.

Yet, none of those conditions will prohibit you from buying a firearm.

[ak4seven]

Thank you fellas! Yes, this is the information I’m looking for... really appreciate you guys answering my questions

[Browneye]

Originally Posted by Dvrjon

- Any Arrest in the last 5 years, regardless of the disposition.
- Any Conviction in the last 7 years.
- Dishonesty on the application and/or during interview or failure to disclose information.
- Pattern of Irresponsibility including but not limited to suspended driver’s license, numerous traffic citations, or civil lawsuits.

Seems like I've seen something like this from OCSD as well, but couldn't say where.

And along those same lines, once you have your permit, you are required to contact OCSD if you have ANY contact with ANY law enforcement officer or entity, for ANY reason. They keep close track of their permittees.

[socal m1 shooter]

Originally Posted by Browneye

[…]
OCSD has issued more than ten thousand permits over the past few years. They're pro-issue.

The last number I heard was ~21K, and that was some months ago. I’d guess 22K might be reasonable at this point.

[RoofTopKorean]

Apologies in advance if this was discussed elsewhere, but wth the overturning of the limit on standard capacity magazines, are we allowed to carry with standard magazines now?

[tuna quesadilla]

Originally Posted by RoofTopKorean

Apologies in advance if this was discussed elsewhere, but wth the overturning of the limit on standard capacity magazines, are we allowed to carry with standard magazines now?

I would hold off on doing that until we get at least a little bit more clarification/development on this whole situation. Over the next week or two, we're probably going to see a lot more review and interpretation from professional lawyers close to the case. We'll also learn within the next few days whether or not the Attorney General ends up appealing this decision in any way. So this could all change in a moment's notice.

On that note, I also just reviewed my CCW guidelines packet I got from the last time I amended my license with OCSD, and it doesn't say anything about standard-capacity magazines being forbidden. So I wouldn't even bother contacting OCSD with this question--Do you remember the kid in school who would raise his hand and say, "Teacher, you forgot to grade the homework today..."? Don't be that kid. Also remember that there ARE people walking around today with CCW licenses who do own legally-grandfathered standard-capacity magazines from before the year 2000, so there's no reason OCSD should want to prevent those people from carrying their legally-owned equipment in the first place.

[RoofTopKorean]

Good point. Thanks for your input

[Browneye]

Originally Posted by socal m1 shooter

The last number I heard was ~21K, and that was some months ago. I’d guess 22K might be reasonable at this point.

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[Guninator]

An employee at OnTarget told me today they spoke directly with the OCSD CCW unit and they are not cool with permit holders carrying 11+ mags right now. This is second-hand info, and he didn't say anything about the grandfathered mags, so word to the wise, ask your CCW deputy for advice.

[tuna quesadilla]

Originally Posted by Guninator

An employee at OnTarget told me today they spoke directly with the OCSD CCW unit and they are not cool with permit holders carrying 11+ mags right now. This is second-hand info, and he didn't say anything about the grandfathered mags, so word to the wise, ask your CCW deputy for advice.

I mean, it does make sense that the agency would want to follow the laws of the state as closely as possible. We can only hope that this lawsuit eventually makes it to the Supreme Court and gets overturned statewide (or even nationwide).