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The differnce is that ares is the manufacture and that we went direct to the source instead of wholesale like stores. Theres nothing that we should be waiting on for delivery because we were first to order and ares has shipped to their clients outside of this gb.
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As I have always said, until today, I'll wait for the right product when communication is good. Hell, I get better communication from the ATF on form 4 updates and they don't ever call. I'm done with giving benefits of the doubts, having understanding, etc. When someone starts telling the truth instead of blowing smoke then maybe I'll have some patience and understanding.
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since the beginning. may 2012.
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7 months for a preorder that I had to call ares to get them to charge the rest of as they just let it set after the lost their CC account. Then call again two weeks later to get them to ship it. Now I'm just waiting for my group buy order. Then I think I'm done doing business with ares. Shame to see a local place lose business but, if they do they have no one to blame but themselves. I think Ares could have chimed in more often with realistic info.
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Ares is on this forum and Dimitry is aware of this thread. The fact that they are busy with other BS things like buying stupid domains and starting their training business instead of focusing on keeping us updated on their progress speaks volumes on what they think of us. Heck most of us are reasonable folks and will be okay with waiting if given clear information. So far the quality of communication is clear as mud. How can we get our money back? |
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+1 If I knew that some people had been waiting for months for these frames I would have stayed away. Ares better come up with frames soon.
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not all GBs are like this one.
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Don't let Ares ruin group buys for you. All the GB's I've participated in have been great, especially those from KTO, Schuemann and Caspian. Stick to reputable businesses with a proven product and you should be fine.
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Guys get into the lynch mob thing pretty quickly. They shipped out a lot of the frames a few weeks ago, and I'm 100% positive that they are not out to screw anyone over. There are other issues at hand, and it's not a priority thing where orders from this gb are being set on the back burner.
BTW, All of their build party dates are cancelled, if you want to check it out. http://aresarmor.com/store/80percent_build_party
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Lynch mob? You have to be kidding. The responses have been pretty tame considering the situation. Communication is VERY important. It sounds like the group buy organizer is between the buyers and the manufacturer (rock and hard spot). According to some reports, the manufacturer has given different stories. Communication has been sporadic at best.
BTW, I own a few Haas machines. They are seldom down, and NEVER down for more than a few days. The service and support from the local distributor and the factory is outstanding.
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this is why i backed out of this GB... Communication and answering questions are a priority ..along with some bad decisions by Ares on other things ....
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I think it's pretty clear by now that the "mill being down" is a smoke screen, but for what? Are they changing machine shop "locations" again? Seems like there were some precision issues with some of the build party operations.
Sure would be nice to know the actual story, but I doubt that's a possibility at this point. If I had the updated hand tools jig, I wouldn't care as I could just finish it myself, when they cancelled the build parties (and keep pushing them back) the "revisions" they made to the frame that were supposed to be taken care of by the CNC build party programming are not available any longer to me, so I have some ACTUAL paperweights for the time being, until they get their act together, including my incorrect jig that is just wasted at this point. If anyone at Ares is still monitoring this thread, here are a few questions I'd like answers to: 1. What is actually going on with regards to build parties being "rescheduled"? 2. Are you currently searching for a new machine shop? 3. What is the timeframe for completing corrected hacksaw jigs? Is there one? 4. What is the timeframe for completing the updated grip to fix the undersized magazine well? Any communication would be appreciated even if it is "We don't know." Keeping people in the dark is not really flying. Finally "I told you so" posts aren't really helpful, guys. We get it, you're the smartest guys in the room. Now go to another room. |
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On a semi related note, Couch are you still offering assistance to those who might have acquired a frame? |
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Starting to piss me off. The Are's paperweights are starting to show up in the classifieds already and I PREordered???
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Saw one for $300 a few days ago on here...
Yes, I am still open to helping people out but only after full details are made known on issues, and what problems were being fixed during build parties at one of the various Ares machine shops. |
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I had to b**** about my preorder on Facebook before I got a response.
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The ones in the classifieds are going for $250 - $300. You paid $125 each, right? The ones in the classifieds are people from either this group buy or other preorders reselling for a profit. Also, nobody ever said that this group buy was the first one or the first order of these, people were ordering these on the website from the beginning, most often paying more than this group buy price.
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I do know the story has been different. One version (?) from the buy coordinator, another version or two from Ares. I was in the first group buy. Supposedly my stuff was going ship a while back - they said they didn't have a good address. I supplied it three times, more than a month ago. The implication has been that there were machine problems. Do you have information as to what the problems really are? Do you know someone at Ares? ETA: please understand I'm just wanting info. I know nuance can be hard to express and capture on the internet. I'd really like to have a clear and accurate understanding of what is happening.
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There are some people that it's just not worth engaging. It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired? Last edited by eaglemike; 02-19-2013 at 2:37 PM.. |
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For the schmucks who paid and didn't get their frames you can buy yours back here...http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=330588244. Wtf!
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What's the rush people? 80 percents will always be around....even after any banning......
At the price $300???????or even $100?????? why not a decent legitimate lower. If you already own even one gun...your on a list already somewhere.... |
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I remember some people in the group buy said they picked up parts are Ares. Now Ares knows nothing about group buys? What on earth is going on? This is not good, and getting worse..........
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you clearly have no clue as to what's going on here. move along please
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Its not a rush... some people got their order when others have been part of it since the start last may and have no updates on what's going on. We are seeing sales in classifieds and gun broker and ares has shipped to non gb members when we were promised to recieve first. As much as we want our order a simple update would be sufficient for the time being. If that doesnt bother you... good for you. The rest of us would like to know what's going on though. Durring the last shipment I was told I would not be recieving a shipment because I had a jig. And that it would only be days until the others could be shipped. It has been a long time after "days" and I have no idea what's going on
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