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Old 10-15-2010, 6:51 PM
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Default Tactical Response in Los Angeles

Tactical Response is back in So Cal and will be teaching two classes in February of 2011.

Fighting Pistol (Feb 14-15) more info

Fighting Rifle (Feb 16-17) more info

Classes will be held at Angeles Shooting Range.

Register here to reserve your spot: http://www.tacticalresponse.com/schedule.php

Feel free to contact me if you have any questions.

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Old 10-21-2010, 6:34 PM
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For those who are not familiar with Tactical Response, AAR's for their courses can be found here: http://getoffthex.com/eve/forums/a/frm/f/6321031321

Any feedback from Tactical Response Alumni is welcome!

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Old 10-21-2010, 6:46 PM
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Why are Blackhawk Serpa holsters not allowed? Even if you use the belt loop instead of the paddle?
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Old 10-21-2010, 7:37 PM
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Why are Blackhawk Serpa holsters not allowed? Even if you use the belt loop instead of the paddle?
serpas are give you glock leg
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i had to urbandictionary that...i suppose that makes sense
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This looks great.
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Old 10-21-2010, 11:17 PM
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Tactical Response FAQ

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Why no Serpa holsters?

An answer from our friend Paul Gomez: Begin Quote “Over the last year, I have developed some serious concerns with the Blackhawk Serpa Active Retention holster design. Various persons have brought these concerns to the attention of Blackhawk on several occasions and Blackhawk has chosen to ignore these very real issues.

The ‘Serpa Active Retention’ design consists of a plastic L-shaped component which functions as the release button [from the outside of the holster] and as the lock [which engages inside the trigger guard]. The short leg of the L-shaped lever pivots inward [toward the pistol], while the locking tab pivots outward to release the pistol from the holster.

According to the Blackhawk website, ”The release is made using your normal drawing motion, with the trigger finger beside the holster body. … As your trigger finger naturally comes to rest on the SERPA lock’s release mechanism, simply push the mechanism as you draw the weapon and it releases the gun for a smooth, fast draw.”

While Blackhawk may intend for the end-user to apply inboard pressure with the flat of the index finger, under stress, shooters tend to push the button with the tip of their index finger. After all, this is the manner in which most people have the most repetitions pushing buttons such as keys on a keypad or phone or ringing doorbells. When the finger pushes in on the release button and the user initiates the upward motion of the draw stroke, the finger tends to stay in motion and as the trigger guard clears the holster, the finger enters the trigger guard and contacts the trigger, with possibly tragic results.

I am aware of two instances where trained personnel have shot themselves using this holster in conjunction with Glock pistols. In August of 2004, a situation occurred with a live weapon that resulted in the shooter losing a 10cm piece of her femur. The other occurred with nonlethal training ammunitions in a force-on-force event in April of 2005. The impact of the NLTA was in the same area as the actual gunshot wound previously mentioned.

Following each of these events, Blackhawk was contacted and advised of the problems observed and concerns raised. In the first instance, they claimed that they were unaware of any previous issues with the design and insisted that the design had been ‘thoroughly tested by law enforcement and military personnel’.

After the second event, they were contacted by at least two people. Again, they stated that they were unaware of any concerns and had heard nothing similar from any sources.” End Quote

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Old 11-03-2010, 10:03 PM
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Here's a clip of some two man tactics working horizontal and forward in the Fighting Rifle class.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPJvXasTLvs

Check it out.

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What time the class starts and ends?
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:19 PM
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Start time will be 9am.

Expect the end time will be 5pm.

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Old 11-14-2010, 7:35 AM
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Another clip from the Fighting Rifle class:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8DtXmiT4Ug
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Old 11-21-2010, 12:55 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8DtXmiT4Ug
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Old 11-21-2010, 1:47 PM
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On completion of a course, will you at least provide us with something written stating that we attended <insert course name> on <insert date>?
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I would love to take one of these classes if it was in like NV or AZ I couldn't imagine going through a course with 10 round mags and BB. I'm looking at attending the way of the rifle next year in TN for this reason.
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Old 11-21-2010, 4:10 PM
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Ian,

I believe a certificate of completion will be awarded at the end of both classes. At least I have mine from when I went through both in 2008.

Dhena81,

Lots of guys run through this class in Kalifornia, and do it with the draconian gun laws in place. If you're in the area, don't let the restrictions keep you from good training.

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Old 11-21-2010, 5:01 PM
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This seems like a very interesting class. Now all I have to do is try to get 2 weekdays off from work.
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Lots of guys run through this class in Kalifornia, and do it with the draconian gun laws in place. If you're in the area, don't let the restrictions keep you from good training.

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Just to remember to add 1-2 seconds changing the mag with a bullet.
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Blackhawk Serpa holsters are now allowed in Tactical Response classes.
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Old 12-04-2010, 4:59 PM
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Austin beat me to it, but this just in:

From Tactical Response - EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, the ban on Blackhawk Serpa holsters has been lifted. Blackhawk Serpa holsters are allowed in all Tactical Response courses.
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Old 12-05-2010, 8:06 AM
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I just signed up for this course and very excited to attend.
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I just signed up for this course and very excited to attend.
You won't be disappointed.
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Austin beat me to it, but this just in:

From Tactical Response - EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, the ban on Blackhawk Serpa holsters has been lifted. Blackhawk Serpa holsters are allowed in all Tactical Response courses.
LOL Sorry, just trying to get the word out.
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No apologies necessary Austin.

I appreciate the help.

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Old 12-06-2010, 6:43 AM
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Signed up and ready to go!!! Cant wait for this class.
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Old 12-27-2010, 3:27 PM
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Old 01-04-2011, 5:49 AM
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Bump! Come on guys lets train!!!
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I'm concerned - I email TR twice to cancel my class reservation, but received no response.

Last edited by Chatterbox; 01-07-2011 at 5:20 PM..
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I'm concerned - I email TR twice to cancel my class reservation, but received no response.
No worries; they are good people. Call them at 877-7LETHAL and talk with them and they'll help you.
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Old 01-20-2011, 10:44 AM
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Bump.

Final push. Class is just two weeks away!

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No worries; they are good people. Call them at 877-7LETHAL and talk with them and they'll help you.
Left them a message last week - no call back, no refund to my card. I think this is going to have to be disputed with my CC.
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Chatter,

I called today regarding an order I've placed and spoke with someone.

I know that some of their people are in Vegas for the SHOT show. I do not know if or how that affects their office.

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Left them a message last week - no call back, no refund to my card. I think this is going to have to be disputed with my CC.
Chatterbox,

The person you want to talk with is Marilyn at 731-676-2041. She'll sort it out for you.
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Bump. Class is in two weeks.
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