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Virginian's Lobby and CARRY in their State House
VCDL LOBBY DAY Jan.19th, 2009
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum54/18154.html Photos http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum54/20828.html http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/71387...57909458_rfnLN http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/a...by%20day%2008/
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False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. -- Cesare Beccaria http://www.a-human-right.com/ Last edited by Liberty1; 01-22-2009 at 9:06 PM.. |
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This sort of caught my eye:
http://www.vcdl.org/static/gue.html Sort of useful, but I suppose a similar list for California would take up a couple of DVD-ROMs, compressed. :-) 7x57
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False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. -- Cesare Beccaria http://www.a-human-right.com/ |
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OC in the statehouse, while peacefully petitioning government. If that isn't wordless First Amendment speech with guns, nothing is.
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Could have this here in CA if people had done something about the '67 problem.
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Report from a Virginia Calguns participant!
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...16#post1920916 Quote:
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^ 50 dozen is still dozens.
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Heh. Yes, in a different world, that idea could go somewhere, but the significance is that it's peaceful, lawful, and non-confrontational. It isn't so clear that Don Kilmer will even get a 1st amendment claim on the Alameda Co. gun show--Sacramento would declare martial law sooner than they'd meet with Gandhi, Gautama Budda, and Jesus Christ if the three were packing heat. :-)
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Well, maybe an "empty holster" protest. Preferably with a closed flap so that the capital police would have a nice time trying to get permission to inspect all of the empty holsters.
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Indeed, though I gather he actually was talking about the army and not individual arms. I haven't investigated the context myself, however.
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He was talking about the army, or rather about the British not recruiting Indians into it. A good quote still, if one doesn't look into the context
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That's the idea. If it's feelings we have to appeal to...
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Well, I was trying to needle you with the accusation that you were using the same slipshod, historically insane reasoning.
OTOH, that's why I hammer on the point that RKBA is really for those without money or influence, and that gun control is and always has been inherently racist and discriminatory. It's *true*, and hammers directly at their world view. 7x57
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What can I say, our media can't count very high. There's some pictures floating around on VCDL of all the gun owners present. Most of them were wearing the orange VCDL buttons and massive amounts of "Guns Save Lives" stickers were given away.
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False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. -- Cesare Beccaria http://www.a-human-right.com/ Last edited by Liberty1; 01-22-2009 at 9:04 PM.. |
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