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Old 02-13-2011, 2:39 PM
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A Romanian national from the 1st section 'Les Aigles ' (the eagles) of the 2nd REG (Régiment étranger du génie), serving as a soldier with the French Foreign Legion, at Forward Operating Base Tagab-Kutschbach near Tagab in Kapisa Province on January 24, 2011. The French Foreign Legion, a military unit established in 1831, was created for foreign nationals of any nationality wishing to serve in the French armed forces.
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HK 417?
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Yep, it's a HK417 in 7.62mm NATO.
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They have some interesting stuff


A Colombian national from the 1st section 'Les Aigles ' (the eagles) of the 2nd REG (Régiment étranger du génie), serving as a soldier with the French Foreign Legion, at Forward Operating Base Tagab-Kutschbach near Tagab in Kapisa Province on January 24, 2011.


A Canadian national from the 1st section 'Les Aigles ' (the eagles) of the 2nd REG (Régiment étranger du génie), serving as a soldier with the French Foreign Legion, at Forward Operating Base Tagab-Kutschbach near Tagab in Kapisa Province on January 24, 2011.


A Russian national from the 1st section 'Les Aigles ' (the eagles) of the 2nd REG (Régiment étranger du génie),


An Indian national from the 1st section 'Les Aigles ' (the eagles) of the 2nd REG (Régiment étranger du génie),

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Oui, c'est le 417 du H et K.
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Even they hate the FAMAS -
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Old 02-13-2011, 5:26 PM
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A Chinese national from the 1st section 'Les Aigles ' (the eagles) of the 2nd REG (Régiment étranger du génie),


An Irish national from the 1st section 'Les Aigles ' (the eagles) of the 2nd REG (Régiment étranger du génie),


A combo of two pictures taken on January 27, 2011 shows Mongolia's soldier from the 1st section 'Les Aigles ' (the eagles) of the 2nd REG (engineering foreign regiment) serving as a soldier with the French Foreign Legion, at Forward Operating Base Tagab-Kutschbach, near Tagab in Kapisa Province, and a notebook with a sentence written by the soldier reading 'the mission is our business'.
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A Romanian national from the 1st section 'Les Aigles ' (the eagles) of the 2nd REG (Régiment étranger du génie), serving as a soldier with the French Foreign Legion, at Forward Operating Base Tagab-Kutschbach near Tagab in Kapisa Province on January 24, 2011. The French Foreign Legion, a military unit established in 1831, was created for foreign nationals of any nationality wishing to serve in the French armed forces.
get yer finger off the bang switch there sport...
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get yer finger off the bang switch there sport...
no kidding... wtf? lol.
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Am I a bad person for wondeing why the French even need guns, won't it just slow them down as they run away
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Am I a bad person for wondeing why the French even need guns, won't it just slow them down as they run away
Unlike the rest of the French military, the French Foreign Legion actually fights. It's because it's full of non-French soldiers.
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You don't know history my friend. The French soldier and Marine has fought and died bravely in very large numbers for many years. The French army held the permimeter at Dunkirk and allowed the British army and elements of the French army to evacuate while they stayed and died. The French Army, Marines and Air Force fought and died bravely throughout Indo China. The main problem the French have faced throughout the years is unimaginative leadership at the top.
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Nice summary SMLE - I believe they helped us with a bit or our revolution too -

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You don't know history my friend. The French soldier and Marine has fought and died bravely in very large numbers for many years. The French army held the permimeter at Dunkirk and allowed the British army and elements of the French army to evacuate while they stayed and died. The French Army, Marines and Air Force fought and died bravely throughout Indo China. The main problem the French have faced throughout the years is unimaginative leadership at the top.
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Couple more points - every French service member, Algerian, Moroccan and Vietnamese fighting on behalf of France in Indo-China was a volunteer. By French law no draftees were allowed to serve outside of Europe. Volunteers were still parachuting into Dien Bien Phu almost to the last day that the installation was overrun by the Viet Minh. Many of the specialist volunteers were not airborne qualified. They strapped on a 'chute and jumped into hell's cauldron. That takes bravery.
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Unlike the rest of the French military, the French Foreign Legion actually fights. It's because it's full of non-French soldiers.
It's actually a genius foreign policy move. The French don't have to worry about all the bad press of expeditionary forces going overseas because they just send the legion which is primarily made up of foreign nationals. Last I read the officer corps of the legion are still french.
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That's the whole point of the foreign legion. They get people from other countries to fight for them.
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Am I a bad person for wondeing why the French even need guns, won't it just slow them down as they run away
as far as the FFL, I have a lot of respect for them because most join purely to be soldiers. No patriotism, job training, or GI Bill is their motivation.
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Why the Asians get stuck with the crap FAMAS?!
That's racist!
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Why the Asians get stuck with the crap FAMAS?!
That's racist!
FAMAS is definitely not crap. Ever seen it in action? Very nice hardware.
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famas is not crap
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What about it doesn't suck? F1/G1-1/12 twist barrel, proprietary steel case ammo (heard the company who made it went under or something), Army forgoing purchase of G2 and opting for a new rifle system.
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What about it doesn't suck? F1/G1-1/12 twist barrel, proprietary steel case ammo (heard the company who made it went under or something), Army forgoing purchase of G2 and opting for a new rifle system.
your speaking of the f1 which was made 31 years ago back when Giat industries was the manf now its called Nexter both govt owned, French soldiers carry upgrade f1s to g2 with 1/9 twist barrel and some have the felin system and rifle grenades also.
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What about it doesn't suck? F1/G1-1/12 twist barrel, proprietary steel case ammo (heard the company who made it went under or something), Army forgoing purchase of G2 and opting for a new rifle system.
I researched the weapon a little bit. At fist it was craptastic but then the French pulled their head out of thier fourth point of contact. It was originally designed for 5.56x45 French instead of 5.56x45 NATO. It had jamming issues if loaded with NATO ammo. They eventually changed it for common sense purposes. My buddy got chosen to shoot with the French during mob in Germany and he said it was a pretty awesome weapon. VERY controllable in FA. Wish I got to shoot with them
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look at the rifles themselves.

Notice how none of them look dropped yet?
Thats how you know these guys arent actually French
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Wheres Jean Claude?
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cool pics, hey berg, do you have a link to the original article?
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cool pics, hey berg, do you have a link to the original article?
Yea +1 on this
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I took to personal tour of the FFL's headquarters in Aubagne,France in 2008. Lots of history there,but I was not allowed to take pictures inside the museum. Stood under the display of Captain Danjou's wooden hand form the battle of Puebla,Mexico 1863. If in France one must make this a stop. Well worth the trip to Aubagne. Its on the way to Nice.
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Unfortunately there was no article. It's from here: http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2...anuary-2011/3/
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I got beat up by drunk Legioneres on Bastille Day on a Paris metro in 1992. They're pretty squared away
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I kinda want to join the FFL..
Do they get paid?


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$1411.70 us dollars a month.. is peanuts..
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How much are our guys making as a PFC?

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How much are our guys making as a PFC?
In 1992 I was a E-1 Seaman Recruit and made about $725.00 a month. Add to that I had to "hot rack" until a bunk opened up. Oh, and I had to mess crank 12 hours a day until I could join my work center.

The upside is I got all the bug juice I could drink!
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How much are our guys making as a PFC?
My younger bro is a PFC and right out of boot he's making about $1600 a month.
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Excellent then - Almost on par with what the FFL is making - But we know it's not all about the money or one wouldn't be joining any military institution -

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The upside is you can pull a full pension after 15 years of service.
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