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Even more productive is to check your local community chapter, show up at an event or two and meet some people to find a way to get involved and volunteer with CalGuns Foundation's efforts to fight BS like this here in California. Also, consider taking the Pistolero Challenge (link in my signature), CGF doesn't print money to pay for the litigation on these cases.
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no - not an attorney -thats why I asked where they are.
IMO the transfer between me and the seller out of state is when they recieve my money in THIER state and place my itme that I now won in the mailbox in THIER state. the tranfer that heppens in CAL is only due to the federal interstate transfer laws and the 10 day wait. the CA dealer is a THIRD party merely handing me my handgun that I already paid for several weeks before. I guess the State can now tax us for anything we buy over the internet upon reciept. they might as well have UPS and FEDEx collect the tax when they bring it to your door. |
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The fact that the CA FFL has to deal with does change things. The state wants the money and the FFL is an easy target, it is just the way it is.
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Kemasa. False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse. Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong. Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein |
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we the people need to stop taking it "just the way it is" and take back our state. its just plain wrong that a government agency makes up its own laws. the legislature should be doing this and not leave it up to bureaucrats.
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Please show me proof that a government agency makes up its own laws. This is one area in which I have an issue. People make all these claims because they don't like something, but have no proof that it is actually the case. In some cases, the legislature creates laws which allow the agency to make rules and policy, which means that the agency is not making up the law, but following it. None of this is new either, but suddenly the laws are being enforced in a wider effort and people act like it is new.
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Kemasa. False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse. Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong. Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein |
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the legislature creates laws which allow the agency to make rules and policy
this is what I mean - I am just ranting. unfortunatley the legislature leaves too much leeway to the agencies. I have seen it with AQMD developing thier own policies and citing businesses for it. I sat on a trail in Fed court involvoing the import of airplanes parts. the key to the prosecution was a federal policy. a few of us on the jury were smart enough to figure this out and it was deadlocked. yet the government was rying to send someone to prison based on a policy. after the DA asked us why we werent convined and we mentione the policy. he said, oh yeah, the judge would not allow the actual policy in as evidence but the prosecuted anyways, it was a hung jury. |
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yes on your tax forms. but not to an intermediate agent.
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Yes, but the FFL is required to collect the sales tax. So are you suggesting that the FFL should not do what they are required to do?
Also, it is important to understand that paying for an item does not mean that you legally own it. A vehicle is an easy example since if you don't fill out the forms (which varies depending who you are since dealers are different), you don't really own the vehicle even if you paid for it. You can prove, with the paperwork, that you have money invested in the vehicle, but you would not be able to report the vehicle stolen as you are not the registered owner. There are certain requirements for the transfer of a firearm.
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Kemasa. False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse. Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong. Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Anything that's not an AW can be exempted...
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WTS all BNIB: Colt S70 Repro, HK45c, Gen4 G19 |
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SWI Firearms (Santa Ana) http://www.swi-firearms.com |
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Bummer then I'll get a HK45 or P30 instead. Thanks
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Question about buying an off roster frame and slide.
I want a caspian and I am in Cali. I have a single shot conversion for a 1911 and am wondering with buying a frame to do the SSE would it have to be a complete firing pistol or could it just be a frame with a single shot top end leaving me to complete the build with the fire control group? Thanks in advance. |
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Jack Do you want an AOW or C&R SBS/SBR in CA? No posts of mine are to be construed as legal advice, which can only be given by a lawyer. |
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I have a few options. My brother lives out of state and my dad lives in state so an intrafamily transfer is available. Also I have the necessary parts to complete a pistol that came off my RIA so the fit should be sloppy enough to not require altering the frame.
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Intrafamilial transfer is probably the best and easiest way to get frames if your FFL understands how they work. Remember it will have to go through your dad first. Depending on your end goal/smith, you could have your smith build up the frame first into a completed pistol and then exempt the final product. Of course if you wanted to build it yourself/at a later date that's not viable.
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Brother to father, father to you. Intrafamilial transfers are roster exempt and can occur between non-residents through an FFL.
http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/in...Family_Members
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So I tried a search but not sure what terms to look for. Where can I find a machine shop that will make the barrel/mag block for me? Or, where can I source the items to outright purchase? I need a 1911 setup, and a Sig P220 Setup?
Help or suggestions are appreciated! |
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Another one in Jail thanx to Ryan @ www.tablerockarms.com
I have my wifey's xmas present @ straight line tactical ... Thanx again Ryan for help me out with my STI Escort |
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I just went through the faq, and I'm not sure this particular question has been answered. Is it possible to have a seller ship a gun that has been SSE-modded on their end and transfer it without needing the receiving FFL to perform any additional work?
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Yes, that is how it is normally done.
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Kemasa. False signature edited by Paul: Banned from the FFL forum due to being rude and insulting. Doing this continues his abuse. Don't tell someone to read the rules he wrote or tell him that he is wrong. Never try to teach a pig to sing. You waste your time and you annoy the pig. - Robert A. Heinlein |
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