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Old 08-10-2017, 7:29 AM
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Interesting thread. I am a bit confused. What's wrong with just throwing a grip wrap on regular pistol grip , use upper w/o flash hider and call it a day. ?
Don't be confused there are many ways to skin a cat as they say.....you are fine with whatever route you want to take to achieve the same goal of being featureless. I picked one up to try it out for a comfort control type of thing nothing else. I like my grip wraps just fine don't even realize they are there anymore. It's just nice to have options
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yep, and pistol grip is the hardest to get right since you are actually holding the thing. Aesthetics are also more challenging.

The grip that is the closest to an A2 grip is going to be the best solution. That's why this grip is so nice an option.
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Old 08-10-2017, 8:06 AM
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Interesting thread. I am a bit confused. What's wrong with just throwing a grip wrap on regular pistol grip , use upper w/o flash hider and call it a day. ?


I'll be damned if I shoot my rifle with out getting a full purchase with my firing hand...

Grip wraps are the easy way out.


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Interesting thread. I am a bit confused. What's wrong with just throwing a grip wrap on regular pistol grip , use upper w/o flash hider and call it a day. ?
Because with these grips I can still use the rifle correctly, with full control of the weapon.
Grip wrap, not so much
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If you consider ergonomics, control, ambi ability, aesthetics, price, etc this was one of the top 2 considerations for me. Looks wise it is the least dumb appearing and I mean that in a very complementary way. To be honest I am surprised that it took somebody this long to come up with something like this. Before this the only similar option was the hammerhead which was something intended for NY to be made into a stock. I'm also surprised nobody has made a backstap fin that instead of being a fin it is a... what to even call this... a web adjustment grip?? Ergonomically I still think this would be better but that would be better then a standard fin IMO.
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Interesting thread. I am a bit confused. What's wrong with just throwing a grip wrap on regular pistol grip , use upper w/o flash hider and call it a day. ?
a grip wrap significantly impedes one handed control of the rifle
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Would love if someone could compare these to the hammerhead grip.
Hammerhead was OK and I'm glad I had mine, but this is a significant improvement in terms of ergonomics for me. Light years better than the grip fins I tried.

Hammerhead gives you other stock mounting options which will suit others, so I think it still has it's place.
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Old 08-10-2017, 2:33 PM
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Well hell you guys aren't helping my pocketbook any lol
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Received mine today. Stoked
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Got mine. I got to say it pretty dang nice and comfortable. I do like the feel better over the Exile backfin but no complaints on backfin either. Nice job OP I am planning on ordering a few more.

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Got mine. I was using a HH but definitely like the added space for all the fingers and the grip angle. I am using a Magpul FCS but I find that even with the clearance from the notched nose piece on the stock, I wish I had a little bit more space for my thumb so looking into another stock solution or moving the FCS back and notching my buffer tube.
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Featureless looks funny.
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I got mine today, but I can't get it to line up right.
...probably just my Anderson though.
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Just kidding! Fits great and feels great!
Thanks Arteel!
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Just kidding! Fits great and feels great!
Thanks Arteel!
My palm was > < that close to my face...
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Unless you have super long thumbs, you are probably going to have trouble reaching the safety on any of the alternate grips. Easiest way to fix is going with an ambi safety.

Additionally, the way this and other grips like the hammerhead position the webbing of you hand will narrow the space you have between the top of grip and the stock. That's why its recommended that you go with a stock that leaves the buffer tube exposed. You can see this in the very first post of the thread and its explained a couple of times in this thread as well.
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Unless you have super long thumbs, you are probably going to have trouble reaching the safety on any of the alternate grips. Easiest way to fix is going with an ambi safety.

Additionally, the way this and other grips like the hammerhead position the webbing of you hand will narrow the space you have between the top of grip and the stock. That's why its recommended that you go with a stock that leaves the buffer tube exposed. You can see this in the very first post of the thread and its explained a couple of times in this thread as well.


I have this issue currently but I also have Strike levers so I might swap them out for one of the longer ones with a nub (far left)




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I got mine today.

I think I'd prefer a bit more texture. Maybe not quite as much as the PF940C texture, but close (and maybe that much, as it'll wear over time).
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Phew, I just got the last batch of pre-orders out!

If anyone has any questions on how to use the SS pin to block your magpul stock, Parallax Tactical has a great instructional video on the process:

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...the hammerhead which was something intended for NY...
Incorrect. Hammerhead AR Stock Adapter was invented and initially marketed in 2009 by a California escapee specifically for the CA-featureless market.

NY-SAFE wasn't law until 2013. Only by chance did Hammerhead turn out to be a good fit for compliance with that law as well.
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Unless you have super long thumbs, you are probably going to have trouble reaching the safety on any of the alternate grips. Easiest way to fix is going with an ambi safety.

Additionally, the way this and other grips like the hammerhead position the webbing of you hand will narrow the space you have between the top of grip and the stock. That's why its recommended that you go with a stock that leaves the buffer tube exposed. You can see this in the very first post of the thread and its explained a couple of times in this thread as well.
I'm really fond of 45 degree ambi safeties with this grip.

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I got mine today.

I think I'd prefer a bit more texture. Maybe not quite as much as the PF940C texture, but close (and maybe that much, as it'll wear over time).
If I decide to do a second rendition, I'll definitely go with a more aggressive texture.

Do you have a soldering iron? I've gotten really good results stippling this grip and actually incorporated a border around the texture for this purpose.
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Your texture is perfect. But then again I like the smooth version also.


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I'm really fond of 45 degree ambi safeties with this grip.



If I decide to do a second rendition, I'll definitely go with a more aggressive texture.

Do you have a soldering iron? I've gotten really good results stippling this grip and actually incorporated a border around the texture for this purpose.
I do, I need to try stippling sometime.

Also, I'm not saying it's a bad grip by any means - I think it's either #1 or #2 of what's available, just haven't tried enough to be sure - just that more texture would be nice.
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Got mine yesterday, installed it today. Love the feel of the grip, much better than the fin. My shootin buddies will probably buy one after they get the feel of my Liberal Grip by featureless. Thanks ARTEEL great product.
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I love the grip! I wish it was rubberized like my Magpul though.
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Got mine set up on my Colt today. Basically just trading a little chicken wing action for being legal and I get my mag release button back.

Outstanding product Arteel! Now I need a few more, heh.

Don't take this the wrong way, but I hope all these laws get tossed out (which would put you out of business), but until then, this is absolutely the best alternative. Thanks!
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Got my grip yesterday but haven't installed it yet. I wanted to make sure my MFT Minimalist stock could be pinned first.

Turns out the Magpul pin included with the grip works for the Minimalist as well.

I can post some pics later, but here's how:

1. Look down the hole at the top of the cheek rest directly above the position pin. You will see the plunger with a hex screw on top. Be careful to find the exact size key or you will strip the screw. The exact size is on the web somewhere but I just got it by trial and error.

2. The hex screw is threadlocked so carefully break it free and unscrew a few turns. I left it there and didn't remove it completely, but I imagine you could take it all the way out and save it in case you want to revert back to its original state.

3. Install your stock on the rifle, just off the position you want. The plunger will be held by the buffer tube and the pin will only be held in place by the plunger spring. You can start pushing it out by hand. Use the new magpul pin to finish pushing it out and replace it in place. This pin is exactly the right size to fit between the adjustment lever so make sure it's in place without being engaged.

4. Pop the stock into position and the plunger will lock it in place.

The only weakness to this method is that the hex screw is now loose in the stock. Before I actually install the stock I want to figure out if I can still pull the plunger with some long pliers or some such. That way I can tighten the hex screw on the pin and use the pliers to install the stock.

Either way you can still remove the stock with the right pliers or tools if you need to take the buffer tube off or whatever.
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Anyone try this grip on an m&p 10? Don't care if it's not optimal, just that it works and is legal.
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Anyone try this grip on an m&p 10? Don't care if it's not optimal, just that it works and is legal.
I would say if you can fit another AR grip on there then this one will fit as well.
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It looks like it won't fit an AK without some modifications, due to the part that sticks up.

I'm a little tempted to try modifying mine, but don't really want to hack up the one I have that's brand new.
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I second that!

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I love the grip! I wish it was rubberized like my Magpul though.
I wonder if Plasti Dip spray would work?

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Just got mine earlier today.

Definitely an improvement over a hammerhead, but not as good as I was hoping it would be.

It's well built and of great quality, but has some drawbacks (for me). Firstly, texturing in the front is too aggressive for my liking. Secondly, it's just too thin. I have long fingers and wish the grip filled out my palm more and had more girth to wrap my fingers around. Thirdly, the plastic feels slippery, a rubbery coating like MOE+ would be desirable.

I also wish the back of the grip near the end plate would protrude just a bit further back, to prevent your thumb web from rubbing against the end plate.

Definitely will keep one, but not sure if I'll be installing a second one on my other rifle.
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Also a dud for me. I run an A1 stock, and I can't get my thumb over the grip in the back.

Don't get me wrong! IMO it's the best product available. I will keep mine happily. I will not switch to another compliance product. And If I go to an alternative stock in the future for whatever reason, the F.A. Grip is going right back on.

It's just a no-go for A1/A2 stocks. Or more specifically, provides no grip advantage over the fins (though way better aesthetically. Way.)
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Just got mine today as well. SUPER FAST SHIPPING!! I do feel the grip walls are a little thin. If it was dropped, wonder if it would break apart. Even with small fingers, I can barely wrap my thumb around the other side and it doesn't feel good with my stock in the fixed position that I have it as the knuckle of my thumb would hit/rub the stock. This is a issue with my stock and not the grip. I am rocking a fixed MFT in the second notch. I actually don't feel too uncomfortable if I were to shoot my rifle without getting the full grip. I am not a tactical shooter by any means so my review may be moot to some haha. Ergonomically...it actually feels good...almost too good that it makes you think, is this really "compliant"? Overall very happy with it. Now time to go shoot...

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