Lets see your .223 California Legal Self Loading Rifle!

[dj_dub]

Originally Posted by keson

What is that little piece called on the bottom rail of the first rifle before the rail cover (looks like it helps with better grip) and who makes it? Thanks in advance!

[jonni]

kac handstop

[hog_8541]

let me know what you think
UPPER: JD Machine, YHM 20" threaded fluted 1-7" twist, 5.56 NATO, todd Jarret Rifle Forearm (Free Float), Rock River Arms Chrome Bolt Carrier Group, YHM phantom flash supressor, troy industries folding battle sights. BCM Gunfighter large latch charge handle, YHM low pro gas block.
LOWER: JD Machine, RRA LPK W/ houge grip, spikes tactical ST-T2 heavy buffer, carbine spring inside magpul UBR buttstock. & P Mags!
I'm saving up for my Aimpiont red dot.

[Jeffu]

I think it looks great! welcome to calguns

[hog_8541]

Originally Posted by Jeffu

I think it looks great! welcome to calguns

Thank you! i should have joined sooner!

[Woodymyster]

From This:


To This:


Which in turn leads to this:

[Jeffu]

[keson]

[tomd1584]

[tacticalcity]

Originally Posted by keson

Nice SPR!

[tacticalcity]

Originally Posted by racky

i recently "aquired" a true mil-spec SOPMOD knights rail. huge upgrade from my cheap-o UTG rail. it was the last upgrade i needed to be able to say, "it's not a cheap build."


before (top) and after SOPMOD (bottom):

Nice build, SSGT. Even nicer to see more USAF guys here.

I run the KAC rail myself on one of my two AR15s, the one I use for CQB training courses. It is a nice drop-in rail. Not too heavy. It has been good to me. I saved the free floating 12" rail for my range whore. The longer rails weigh too much. By hour 5 of running and gunning your arms get way too tired with the longer rails. In any case, I absolutely love my M4. More so than my Recon rifle.

[1forall]

Old pic of my first build. I recently added a MIAD grip with the integrated enhanced trigger guard, due to a broken TG ear.

[Miles M924]

Nice!

[Harvey4804]

HOPEFULLY monday I'll Finally be able to post something worthy here!

[andrewj]

[SixPointEight]

Originally Posted by Trendkill

Interestingly enough....I have the same bathroom door...and door across the hallway haha

[lever]

Basically as "finished" as I can be for the moment.

[tacticalcity]

Originally Posted by lever

Basically as "finished" as I can be for the moment.

Looks great.

[tacticalcity]

Originally Posted by pacrimguru

+1 to all of the above.

After trying the grip all the way out there, I found it works great for a short period of time, however it drastically increases the fatigue factor the longer you do it.

So while it works great in competition, it is not very realistic for real life such as combat operations or SWAT use.

Sit outside a hostage standoff situation for hours on end and you WILL end up moving your hand further back.

Train for four days straight eight hours a day and you WILL end up moving your hand further back.

The issue is that your skeletal structure is much stronger than your musculature structure. You're trying to put all the weight of your rifle on your muscles, where as if you moved your hand further back then you could put most of it on your bones...in which case you would tire out a lot slower.

I still use the thumb over bore, and I still only use the vertical grip index point, I just do it further back on the rifle so my skeletal structure is bearing the brunt of the weight.

It is a compromise between what controls recoil the best and between what is practical for hours upon hours of running and gunning fatigue wise. It's what I was trained to do, and what works best for me after having put several techniques to the test.

[furman]

looks very clean and well set up to me!

[furman]

I moved my forward grip closer and it seems to work better.

[Harvey4804]

I FINALLY got mine done... almost, just need a scope mount and bipod.

from this: (80%)



to this:







CNC 80% lower - RRA LPK - CAA UPG-16 - Timney - Badger Ordnance Left Handed Charging Handle - BAD-A.S.S. - Magpul PRS - Magpul Enhanced Trigger Guard - Raddloock - JP Enterprises upper with LMOS chrome bolt, buffer, and spring - Leapers Accushot 30mm 8-32X56

[sardaukar]

[Harvey4804]

damn, i need to find my good camera!

[dlouie87]

Jealousy here on that JP upper!

[tacticalcity]

Originally Posted by Harvey4804

CNC 80% lower

I wish I had the tools, skillset and patience to be able to turn a chunk of metal into a functioning lower. I have not touched an actual drill press since metal shop in junior high school. I just don't have access to the equipment. And forget about me trying to airbrush or spray paint the lower. I have zero patience for stuff like that. I always want to rush the process, which messes it up.

Very nice job! I am impressed with how nice it turned out.

[Gio]

Originally Posted by tacticalcity

I wish I had the tools, skillset and patience to be able to turn a chunk of metal into a functioning lower. I have not touched an actual drill press since metal shop in junior high school. I just don't have access to the equipment. And forget about me trying to airbrush or spray paint the lower. I have zero patience for stuff like that. I always want to rush the process, which messes it up.

Very nice job! I am impressed with how nice it turned out.

I would recommend using a cnc machine to mill it out, I've done a few that way. Also some of the 80% lowers are anodized already so no worries about messing up the paint or finish trying to do it yourself

[shtr45acp]

Geeze...a good place for cops and DOJ boys and gurlz to look for an ez bust.

[billdoodoo]

Originally Posted by sardaukar

Stickman? Is that you?

[tacticalcity]

Originally Posted by shtr45acp

Geeze...a good place for cops and DOJ boys and gurlz to look for an ez bust.

What are you talking about? Everything here is perfectly legal. Hence the title "223. California Legal Self Loading Rifle". Learn the law my friend. It is not that complicated. These rifles have been perfectly legal here for about 10 years now.

Look underneath the banner ads at the very top of the page. See the drop down menu that reads AW & OLL GUIDES? Click on that drop down menu and read each one of those guides one-by-one.

People here are going to flame you (bash you) pretty badly for a post like the one you just made. It shows a complete lack of understanding of the law. Something people here take offense at, because they have been working so hard to educate the public, and yet so many people are completely uninformed. People who are gun owners and should know better still think these rifles are illegal, and are extremely stubborn and insistant when you try and educate them as to the truth. Don't be one of the those people. Learn the law...it will help you get a lot more fun rifles in your collection.

[F8ality]

Originally Posted by shtr45acp

Geeze...a good place for cops and DOJ boys and gurlz to look for an ez bust.

Hey you really need to do some reading and studying before running your mouth. Thanks!

[ChrisTKHarris]

Originally Posted by shtr45acp

Geeze...a good place for cops and DOJ boys and gurlz to look for an ez bust.

Noob comment is noob.

[tomd1584]

Originally Posted by shtr45acp

Geeze...a good place for cops and DOJ boys and gurlz to look for an ez bust.

Troll. GTFO.






pic thread:

[SixPointEight]

Originally Posted by shtr45acp

Geeze...a good place for cops and DOJ boys and gurlz to look for an ez bust.

That is all.

[Aftermath686]

Originally Posted by tacticalcity

After trying the grip all the way out there, I found it works great for a short period of time, however it drastically increases the fatigue factor the longer you do it.
So while it works great in competition, it is not very realistic for real life such as combat operations or SWAT use.
Sit outside a hostage standoff situation for hours on end and you WILL end up moving your hand further back.
Train for four days straight eight hours a day and you WILL end up moving your hand further back.
The issue is that your skeletal structure is much stronger than your musculature structure. You're trying to put all the weight of your rifle on your muscles, where as if you moved your hand further back then you could put most of it on your bones...in which case you would tire out a lot slower.
I still use the thumb over bore, and I still only use the vertical grip index point, I just do it further back on the rifle so my skeletal structure is bearing the brunt of the weight.
It is a compromise between what controls recoil the best and between what is practical for hours upon hours of running and gunning fatigue wise. It's what I was trained to do, and what works best for me after having put several techniques to the test.

I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you. I will argue that realistically you should only be in this position for a short period of time. If on patrol in the military your weapon is not pointed downrange, you are in the low-ready, therefore not under much physical stress. You only present when you get a known threat, and then you move to cover where most likely you will be shooting supported. I do see the more relevant situation for LEOs in a standoff situation, but here I would highly doubt that officers would be just standing in the open pointing there weapon towards the suspects position for more than a few minutes. Most likely they would be utilizing some piece of cover which would allow to shoot supported, be it a vehicle, wall, or just prone out on the deck. Even if the situation did present itself in which one would need to be constantly shooting I feel it is 100% doable, with proper training before hand. I have utilized this technique ever since I learned it a few years ago, and only in the very beginning (first few months) did I experience fatigue using the position. I have done many full training days since then, sometimes 3, 8 hour days in a row for classes and experienced no problems with fatigue. Keep in mind that I am by no means a buff dude, quite skinny to be honest. I think with enough practice and repetition you tone the right muscles and it doesn't even become a consideration. I am constantly doing dry drills in my down time, and I think this is a huge thing that often gets under-rated. It looks a bit silly, but if you devote the same seriousness and consistency as on the range, it will greatly improve your shooting and help you gain muscle memory as well as strength in the right places. This is all just my humble opinion of course.

Originally Posted by tacticalcity

What are you talking about? Everything here is perfectly legal. Hence the title "223. California Legal Self Loading Rifle". Learn the law my friend. It is not that complicated. These rifles have been perfectly legal here for about 10 years now.
Look underneath the banner ads at the very top of the page. See the drop down menu that reads AW & OLL GUIDES? Click on that drop down menu and read each one of those guides one-by-one.
People here are going to flame you (bash you) pretty badly for a post like the one you just made. It shows a complete lack of understanding of the law. Something people here take offense at, because they have been working so hard to educate the public, and yet so many people are completely uninformed. People who are gun owners and should know better still think these rifles are illegal, and are extremely stubborn and insistant when you try and educate them as to the truth. Don't be one of the those people. Learn the law...it will help you get a lot more fun rifles in your collection.

+1,000,000 Well said, this nonsense should not be tolerated.


Some pictures to keep the thread on track. I am really digging the Battlecomp 1.5!

[sardaukar]

Originally Posted by billdoodoo

Stickman? Is that you?

Nope. Just me. Stickman always incorporates his name into the photo.

[keson]

Originally Posted by Aftermath686

Great looking rifle Andrew!

[RK808]

My baby. Have yet to break it in!

[1forall]

Originally Posted by shtr45acp

Geeze...a good place for cops and DOJ boys and gurlz to look for an ez bust.

You are ill-informed...

[billdoodoo]

Took pics before heading out to the range, finally found time to take her out and pop some cherry rounds