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The issue with BDS Tactical revolves around the disputes with Original-SOE. But, I don't play fan boy, and both companies make top-notch mil-spec gear used by lots of active military and LEO. It also depends on what you're looking for. Every company makes something a little different, even if they are meant for the same purpose.
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I have to say a lot of people take classes and use them for it. I use mine that I deployed with sometimes but I like my plate carrier better.
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My grab and go rig. Not meant for anything other than holding magazines, an armor plate, and a few other minor bits of gear. It has a pistol holster where the flashlight is sticking out. And a radio in the pouch, with an earpiece/mic running up to the shoulder. That is it, other than the med kit. Simple, fast, and reasonably well-balanced. -Mb
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Condor?oh crap...lol. Lot of couch commandos here.lol. Most of these kits (minus one or two minimally adequate setups) will get you nice and DEAD. Your money would be better spent on education and training. You can always pick up more kit.
If you already own some kit, be sure to train with it as much or...if not...more than you train with your firearms. Be sure to know exactly where everything is and be able to get to it and use it blind if you need to. The last thing you want is to be fumbling with crap in a firefight. But ****...what the hell do I know right!? |
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Most people are out of shape and would be ditching equipment after the first 2 miles of walking and/or running up a mountain. I wouldn't want to hump some of these kits up a mountain. More realistically, if I was going to run a plate carrier or chest rig for a carbine class, I'd want the bare minimum. Mags, IFAK/Tourniquet, and some water are probably the most important. Any excess equipment is going to get in the way and slow me down/tire me out. Just my opinion. Even though I don't own a PC/Chest Rig, I still enjoy looking at everyones kit. |
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His point is the same with bug out bags. Most people have no experience humping weight over long distance and even less people have experience wearing a kit. You're not necessarily missing anything on the kit itself, but you may be missing experience with it. I don't know if you have experience, but one thing I'd suggest is training with your kit or any piece of gear you have that you would plan to use. What good is a kit if you have no idea what you're doing once it's on? I'm not saying you don't, just making a point. Even then you won't truly understand how your set up will work for you. It took me several missions before I found a set up I liked and a couple TICs before I had it just right and I was still changing things later on. I don't own a kit myself but plan to buy a chest rack at least. |
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He is with the Oregon Department of Agriculture? Ummm... Ok. And how do you know his "credentials are solid"? His name? The picutes and stuff he has in his signature? No offense, but you can be anything you want online. Did I ever tell you about my time in the French Foreign Legion? Or my job as a Space Shuttle Door Gunner? My point is that he came in, said most people were stupid, and then left. How do we know if he has any clue? He could be a high-speed couch potato like me. Unless he can actually point out some real issues, and make some valid arguments, he gets classified as anothe mall cop.
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Basic Element – SF Operational Detachment-A (SFODA) composition A Special Forces company consists of usually six ODAs (Operational Detachments-A) or "A-Teams".[17][18] The number of ODAs can vary from company to company, with each ODA specializing in an infiltration skill or a particular mission-set (e.g. Military Freefall (HALO), combat diving, mountain warfare, maritime operations, or urban operations). An ODA is identified by its group, battalion, company and the team itself. For example, ODA 111 would be the first team in the first company of the first battalion of First Special Forces Group. An ODA consists of 12 men, each of whom has a specific function (MOS or Military Occupational Specialty) on the team, however all members of an ODA conduct cross-training. The ODA is led by an 18A (Detachment Commander), a Captain, and a 180A (Assistant Detachment Commander) who is his second in command, usually a Warrant Officer One or Chief Warrant Officer Two. The team also includes the following enlisted men: one 18Z (Operations Sergeant) (known as the "Team Sergeant"), usually a Master Sergeant, one 18F (Assistant Operations and Intelligence Sergeant), usually a Sergeant First Class, and two each, 18Bs (Weapons Sergeant), 18Cs (Engineer Sergeant), 18Ds (Medical Sergeant), and 18Es (Communications Sergeant), usually Sergeants First Class, Staff Sergeants or Sergeants. This organization facilitates 6-man "split team" operations, redundancy, and mentoring between a senior NCO and his junior assistant. Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Tapatalk 2
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Hey Gecko45, chill out. I was being obtuse because you tossed an abbreviation out there like it was a magic talisman, assuming that it would automatically make me go weak in the knees and start fawning over what the other poster had said. You are coming on here and going after me again. Okay you wanna play, let's play. What exact kind of experience do you have? And how do you know what kind of experience the guy you are vouching for has? Have you met him? Do you know him personally? Have you served with him? Why should I take your word for anything, when you haven't shown any evidence that you or he know what you are talking about? Unless you can answer those questions, you are just another 12 year old kid, trying to get the rest of us to believe that some other 12 year old kid knows what he is talking about because he fed you a good line over the computer. For all I know, he could very well be the next Chuck Norris. But I am sure as heck not going to take your word for it without a bit more evidence than "If I'm not mistaken, he's with ODA. Either way, his credentials are solid." He has not come back on here to give any answers to a fairly basic question about his posting. He could be busy. Or he could be ducking. We won't know until he answers. Until he does, quit cluttering up the thread with your baseless Bromantic comments about it. He is the one that should be answering. Not you.
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So... What part of my post do you guys not understand?
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I see so many plate carriers W/out plates. Why not buy plates before you buy 800 mag pouches? :shrug
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Anyone else in here using the AR500 steel plates? I just use them for my setup around the house here. Feels heavy to me putting on but when I'm wearing it, it doesn't feel to bad for me.
I was telling my friend about this armor and he was telling me about Ned Kelly. Pretty entertaining bit of history. |
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My completed carrier is worth over a grand, so I can understand why some are slower to complete them.
Level IV ceramic, backed by Level III soft armor, and still need side plates, shoulders and groin. Not the current pouch configuration
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My personal PC I brought to Afghanistan. Was so thankful for this on pats versus the MTV they issued us. I eventually want a set of DKX armor plates to put in this.
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Appears to be an OSOE Micro Rig without the straps.
http://www.originalsoegear.com/microrig.html |
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I'm looking for input so that I can soon post a pic here. I am considering the TAG Banshee and the PIG so far. The pig is more than double the price of the banshee but if its worth it I will get it. Those of you that have either or both what do you think of them?
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