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Old 08-06-2017, 12:08 PM
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If we have to sell it as a rider for must pass legislation then it doesn't matter if the RINOs like it or not, they can easily say it was needed legislation.
http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/index....ckgroundid=381

From what I gather this cannot be a rider without 60 votes.
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Old 08-06-2017, 1:35 PM
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http://www.niemanwatchdog.org/index....ckgroundid=381

From what I gather this cannot be a rider without 60 votes.
It can be, but would not be filibuster proof.

In 2013 the DemTurds opened the "Nuke" door. Simply use it against them again. Change the policy/rule... vote,... pass,... change it back as needed.

Goose-Gander the basturds.
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Old 08-07-2017, 6:00 AM
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Absolutely! That article is pure propaganda and as usual based on lies.
That article, and many like it in the mainstream media, isn't there to report the facts surrounding the issue. It's there to alert the gun banners who haven't heard about the bill and get them moving. It's also there to mislead those on the fence and don't know much about gun laws. We need to push Congress to get HR38 voted and passed.
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Old 08-07-2017, 6:30 AM
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That article, and many like it in the mainstream media, isn't there to report the facts surrounding the issue. It's there to alert the gun banners who haven't heard about the bill and get them moving. It's also there to mislead those on the fence and don't know much about gun laws. We need to push Congress to get HR38 voted and passed.


You hit the nail squared on the head.


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Old 08-11-2017, 6:10 PM
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It can be, but would not be filibuster proof.

In 2013 the DemTurds opened the "Nuke" door. Simply use it against them again. Change the policy/rule... vote,... pass,... change it back as needed.

Goose-Gander the basturds.
I seriously doubt the RINOs will allow that to happen. They want zero legislative success under this administration.
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Old 08-13-2017, 10:36 AM
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Pretty much the entire "never Trump" contingency is on the democrats side. Remember last year? Remember all those republicans that were against Trump? Well, they still are.

Primary them all out and see that change quickly. Start with Paul Ryan and Mitch "Mr. Rodgers".
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Old 08-14-2017, 1:29 PM
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It is indeed a double edged sword.

If we push for, and get, centralized control over CCW on the federal level, then the Brady group has only one focal point to fight us.

Right now, they have 50.
More like 56 when you include Guam, Puerto Rico, the Northern Mariana Islands, the U.S. Virgin Islands, American Samoa and D.C. The federal government makes it 57.
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Flat out question. Do we even have a chance of this passing? If so, when?


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Old 08-15-2017, 7:42 AM
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There is always a chance but odds makers in Vegas will put this in the very unlikely catagory.

Legalized poligamy has a far better chance here.
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Old 08-20-2017, 3:09 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/17/n...l.html?mcubz=1

NJ Senator Menendez could be in trouble, and if he's expelled from the Senate before mid-January, then Chris Christie can name a replacement (even himself) to finish the term which will run for another year.
Getting that seat may be enough to push reciprocity through the Senate.
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