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Old 10-10-2018, 11:17 PM
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The Vortex warranty is great and none are better. But they weren’t the first, Leupold was.
Leupys were only good to u if ur the original owner. They dont warranty if ur buddy accidently put a round thru it. Vortex does
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Old 10-14-2018, 3:34 AM
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Leupys were only good to u if ur the original owner.
Not true.
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Old 10-14-2018, 9:27 AM
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Not true.
Iirc the old warranty cards that came with it does state it. Warranty only applies to original purchaser that registestered the item with proof of receipt.
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Old 10-14-2018, 6:59 PM
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Iirc the old warranty cards that came with it does state it. Warranty only applies to original purchaser that registestered the item with proof of receipt.
That had to have been a long time ago. Long before Vortex was selling scopes the current Leupold warranty was in place.
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Old 10-14-2018, 9:29 PM
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That had to have been a long time ago. Long before Vortex was selling scopes the current Leupold warranty was in place.
Yeah leupy was wayyyyyyy Late to the game. They finally figured it out that tryn screw their only customers over has costed them. Back in the late 90’s early 2k leupys didnt have many competitors in its class so they rape their customers with everything they could. Now theyre just barely tryn catch up.
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I only own 2 scopes- both bought about 6 years ago-- a Vortex Viper PST 4-16x FFP MOA/MOA and a Trijicon TR24G 1-4x. Both got for around $750 and as far as bang for the buck I could not be happier w either of them.
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Old 10-22-2018, 11:40 AM
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too bad they are not made in America
Really what is these days?

Even many USA made items we are used to seeing now say things like "Made in USA, with Global components"

Going back to Vortex... always been a fan. Been using them for at least 7+ years.

Their Viper PST line has always been a good value oriented proposition but if you can afford their Razor line of scope, you will be as close to to the top shelf as you can get for the price paid.

You need to spend a significant amount more money to actually SEE the difference and even then you are buying small incremental improvements.

Where the PST brings it home is balance... they give you a lot of scope to grow into without going too low or high-end in any one particular area. If you need more than a PST, you are basically a pretty serious enthusiast or working professional.
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The names we trust have been around for generations. We trust them to be backing their products for generations to come.

Vortex since 2002?

What year did Vortex gain steam?

Do you trust that Vortex will be here generations from now?

It matters to some.
Vortex Optics was founded in 2004. That is way too recent to put a lot of faith in their warranty.

I'm only going to trust the warranties from well established brands like Remington (founded 1816).
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Old 10-24-2018, 11:13 AM
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Vortex Optics was founded in 2004. That is way too recent to put a lot of faith in their warranty.

I'm only going to trust the warranties from well established brands like Remington (founded 1816).
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Just to throw a wet towel on all this hyperbole, Leupold has been around a whole lot longer, is American made, and has always had a no questions asked warranty, for whoever presently has the optic. There is no way Vortex, a well respected, but relative newcomer, can compare. Get real folks. At best, they offer the same warranty, not the best in the industry. Leupold owned that long before Vortex owners parents were even born!
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Just to throw a wet towel on all this hyperbole, Leupold has been around a whole lot longer, is American made, and has always had a no questions asked warranty, for whoever presently has the optic. There is no way Vortex, a well respected, but relative newcomer, can compare. Get real folks. At best, they offer the same warranty, not the best in the industry. Leupold owned that long before Vortex owners parents were even born!
There is a difference in the warranty between the two:
Vortex: You see, it doesn't matter how it happened
Leupold: These warranties do not apply if the product has been modified, misused or has been damaged by accident, abuse, or misapplication.

In real world application there is no difference though and for all intent and purpose Vortex copied Leupold. It has been stated before by people that the Vortex warranty is fantastic, the problem isn’t the warranty but that it has to be used so much. This I believe is the crux of the matter. When I was selling scopes I sure heard more people complaining abort their Vortex scopes breaking than with Leupold.
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Old 10-30-2018, 5:28 AM
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Vortex Optics was founded in 2004. That is way too recent to put a lot of faith in their warranty.

I'm only going to trust the warranties from well established brands like Remington (founded 1816).
Vortex has been around long enough that they aren’t going anywhere. They also do a better job marketing their products than Leupold which is key. In addition their marketing is aimed at younger people which is smart.

With that being said I’ll take a Leupold scope or red dot any day over Vortex. But I’ll take Vortex binoculars and spotting scopes over Leupold.
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Have never sent a Leupold in for damage I've caused, just for failing to hold a zero. Those scopes were both very very old. New ones sent without question within two weeks. No problem. Not really knocking Vortex, as I have a pair of their binoculars and a mono. Just pointing out their warranty is not the only best one out there. I've not dropped / damaged a Leupold before, but feel quite confident they'd make things right.

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Burris Warranty is as good, no better, no worse.
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Old 11-12-2018, 12:58 AM
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True, and IIRC, Jim Burris used to work at Leupold. Great scopes too.
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Burris Warranty is as good, no better, no worse.
Agreed.

I’ve sent both by scopes back to Blurris.

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Old 11-12-2018, 9:08 PM
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Vortex Optics was founded in 2004. That is way too recent to put a lot of faith in their warranty.

I'm only going to trust the warranties from well established brands like Remington (founded 1816).
Wow...



Larue Tactical has only been around since 1980, and yet they are trusted by military, LEO, and civilian shooters.

So I guess what you consider recent or trustworthy doesn't match the opinion of others who actually matter.
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The names we trust have been around for generations. We trust them to be backing their products for generations to come.

Vortex since 2002?

What year did Vortex gain steam?

Do you trust that Vortex will be here generations from now?

It matters to some.
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I don't see any indications that Vortex is going away. Do you?
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No, I do not.

Just throwing it out there for whatever it’s worth.

I’ve been eyeing a few of their products.
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Vortex Optics was founded in 2004. That is way too recent to put a lot of faith in their warranty.

I'm only going to trust the warranties from well established brands like Remington (founded 1816).
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Wow...



Larue Tactical has only been around since 1980, and yet they are trusted by military, LEO, and civilian shooters.

So I guess what you consider recent or trustworthy doesn't match the opinion of others who actually matter.
I think the Murmur’s response is a sarcastic /fun reply to my post.
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Wait till you try the razor gen 2..... dont do it
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