thread/sticky w/info on ALL new gun control laws & dates to take effect?

[Paladin]

Title pretty much says it all.

A friend was asking about the anti laws about to take effect. I told him registration of long gun sales take place after 2014 Jan 01, but wasn't sure about the other stuff.

I looked at the CGF Wiki, but didn't notice anything other than a sentence under, IIRC, "Recent Legislation" that said a bunch of bills were on the governor's desk and the Wiki entries will be updated as things get signed. Since that is MONTHS out of date, I don't feel confident directing them there.

I thought there was a sticky at the top of either the Litigation or the CA 2nd A Political forums, but didn't see a title that seemed on point.

Were all the changes and their effective dates ever complied?

[Shanesmyname]

Yeah I second this. It would be nice to be up to date on all the new laws that will be taking affect soon so I won't be turned into a criminal.

[Saym14]

that would be nice if someone has the info.

[Librarian]

Here, let me Google that for you ...

No, no, that would be cruel.

Here's a sticky on the long gun registration. There is already released new DROS software that accommodates recording and submitting long gun info, going into use in Jan 2014

Here is the FPC page with the 'scorecard'.

AB 48 - on 'magazine conversion kits', is a continuing rat's nest and no one quite knows what it means. Most conservatively, it says magazine rebuild kits are illegal to acquire on 1 Jan 2014; continuing ownership is not addressed, so it is not illegal. 'Buying a large-capacity magazine' was added as an illegal activity - it had been left out in the first pass.

(Please note that this bill has language in Section 1.5 that bans large-capacity magazines. THAT WILL NOT TAKE EFFECT - it was conditional on SB 396 becoming law, but that failed on the Assembly floor.)

AB 231 - There's a new misdemeanor crime, 'criminal storage of a firearm in the third degree'

(c) Except as provided in Section 25105, a person commits the crime of “criminal storage of a firearm in the third degree” if the person keeps any loaded firearm within any premises that are under the person’s custody or control and negligently stores or leaves a loaded firearm in a location where the person knows, or reasonably should know, that a child is likely to gain access to the firearm without the permission of the child’s parent or legal guardian, unless reasonable action is taken by the person to secure the firearm against access by the child.

AB 500 - screws with the FFL's releasing of a firearm after the 10-day wait. Again, we don't quite know what that means - an argument thread is running about that.

It also requires FFLs to notify DOJ when a gun has been picked up, and prohibits

" a person

who is residing with someone who is prohibited by state or federal law from possessing a firearm

from keeping a firearm at that residence unless the firearm is either kept within a locked container, locked gun safe, locked trunk, locked with a locking device, disabled by a firearm safety device, or carried on the person. "

AB 711 - "This bill would instead require, as soon as is practicable, but by no later than July 1, 2019, the use of nonlead ammunition for the taking of all wildlife..."

AB 1131 - Existing law prohibits a person from possessing a firearm or deadly weapon for a period of 6 months whenever he or she communicates to a licensed psychotherapist a serious threat of physical violence against a reasonably identifiable victim or victims.

This bill would increase the prohibitory period from 6 months to 5 years.

AB 683 - creates the 'Firearms Safety Certificate', effective Jan 1 2015; replaces the Handgun Safety Certificate, and is required for gun purchases NOT OWNERSHIP OR POSSESSION. A valid HSC will still be good for buying handguns in 2015, but when it expires, need the FSC.

ETA Here's Chuck Michel's summary - http://www.calgunlaws.com/2013-calif...ession-report/

[stix213]

Along with long gun registration, we also see the end of C&R face to face non-papered, non-background checked transfers.

[Paladin]

Originally Posted by Librarian

Here, let me Google that for you ...

Thx Lib.

By all of the links you needed to provide, I guess there wasn't a single post stickied w/this important information before.

[Shanghai guy]

Thanks, Librarian!

Re: C & R Licensees. Is there any point in having a C & R in CA, anymore? I was thinking of applying for one, but it looks like everything is going thru an 01 now, due to the registration requirement.

[feedgotones]

By all of the links you needed to provide, I guess there wasn't a single post stickied w/this importation information before.

[MindBuilder]

The ban on 80% lowers is the only thing I can think of that Librarian forgot. It was just a short bit buried in one of the other things passed. It wasn't completely clear, but just defined something readily convertible to a finished receiver as a firearm. I guess you can still make a receiver entirely from scratch though.

It might also not be obvious that the secure storage requirements appear to have the side effect (or hidden intentional effect) that it is now illegal to let minors shoot your guns without their parent's permission.

[Librarian]

Originally Posted by MindBuilder

The ban on 80% lowers is the only thing I can think of that Librarian forgot.

Would you please chase that down? I don't recall that.

[strongpoint]

Originally Posted by Librarian

Would you please chase that down? I don't recall that.

always a paragon of civility.

[TacticalPlinker]

Try this;

http://nramemberscouncils.com/caspecial/2013gov.shtml

Librarian gave a summary of everything that matters.

[hualampeter]

So is AB 683 military exempt, like the HSC requirement?

[TacticalPlinker]

Originally Posted by hualampeter

So is AB 683 military exempt, like the HSC requirement?

Looks that way. There are actually several exemptions, including...

SEC. 37.
Section 31700 is added to the Penal Code, to read:

31700.
(a) The following persons, properly identified, are exempted from the firearm safety certificate requirement in subdivision (a) of Section 31615:

(10) An active or honorably retired member of the United States Armed Forces, the National Guard, the Air National Guard, or the active reserve components of the United States, where individuals in those organizations are properly identified. For purposes of this section, proper identification includes the Armed Forces Identification Card or other written documentation certifying that the individual is an active or honorably retired member.

[Saym14]

Originally Posted by Librarian

Here, let me Google that for you ...

No, no, that would be cruel.

Here's a sticky on the long gun registration. There is already released new DROS software that accommodates recording and submitting long gun info, going into use in Jan 2014

Here is the FPC page with the 'scorecard'.

AB 48 - on 'magazine conversion kits', is a continuing rat's nest and no one quite knows what it means. Most conservatively, it says magazine rebuild kits are illegal to acquire on 1 Jan 2014; continuing ownership is not addressed, so it is not illegal. 'Buying a large-capacity magazine' was added as an illegal activity - it had been left out in the first pass.

(Please note that this bill has language in Section 1.5 that bans large-capacity magazines. THAT WILL NOT TAKE EFFECT - it was conditional on SB 396 becoming law, but that failed on the Assembly floor.)

AB 231 - There's a new misdemeanor crime, 'criminal storage of a firearm in the third degree'

AB 500 - screws with the FFL's releasing of a firearm after the 10-day wait. Again, we don't quite know what that means - an argument thread is running about that.

It also requires FFLs to notify DOJ when a gun has been picked up, and prohibits

" a person

who is residing with someone who is prohibited by state or federal law from possessing a firearm

from keeping a firearm at that residence unless the firearm is either kept within a locked container, locked gun safe, locked trunk, locked with a locking device, disabled by a firearm safety device, or carried on the person. "

AB 711 - "This bill would instead require, as soon as is practicable, but by no later than July 1, 2019, the use of nonlead ammunition for the taking of all wildlife..."

AB 1131 - Existing law prohibits a person from possessing a firearm or deadly weapon for a period of 6 months whenever he or she communicates to a licensed psychotherapist a serious threat of physical violence against a reasonably identifiable victim or victims.

This bill would increase the prohibitory period from 6 months to 5 years.

AB 683 - creates the 'Firearms Safety Certificate', effective Jan 1 2015; replaces the Handgun Safety Certificate, and is required for gun purchases NOT OWNERSHIP OR POSSESSION. A valid HSC will still be good for buying handguns in 2015, but when it expires, need the FSC.

ETA Here's Chuck Michel's summary - http://www.calgunlaws.com/2013-calif...ession-report/

thx now just make it a sticky

[MindBuilder]

Section 16520(g) in Section 2 and 2.5 of AB500 contains:

"(g) As used in Sections 29010 to 29150, inclusive, “firearm” includes the unfinished frame or receiver of a weapon that can be readily converted to the functional condition of a finished frame or receiver."

I have since seen it written that the feds may not consider 80 percenters as readily converted, but then this is a California law where the California courts, not the federal courts, will have the final say about what "readily converted" means.

Though since Sections 29010 to 29150 seem to apply to licensed manufacturers in California, I'm not sure now that this law will affect private builders, or incomplete lowers shipped in from out of state.

[Librarian]

Originally Posted by MindBuilder

Section 16520(g) in Section 2 and 2.5 of AB500 contains:

"(g) As used in Sections 29010 to 29150, inclusive, “firearm” includes the unfinished frame or receiver of a weapon that can be readily converted to the functional condition of a finished frame or receiver."

I have since seen it written that the feds may not consider 80 percenters as readily converted, but then this is a California law where the California courts, not the federal courts, will have the final say about what "readily converted" means.

Though since Sections 29010 to 29150 seem to apply to licensed manufacturers in California, I'm not sure now that this law will affect private builders, or incomplete lowers shipped in from out of state.

I think, for now, that bit is indeed restricted to licensed manufacturers. Thanks for finding it.

[Weekendskp]

In a hypothetical scenario given the increasing prevalence of cameras watching your every move, how long will it be before you get the 3:00 AM visit by armed firearm recovery teams because you violated one of the purported 3 felonies that most people unknowingly commit in one day? Something so innocuous as posting a comment on the Web could land you in legal hot water. Why haven't you gotten out of Commiefornia?

[Maestro Pistolero]

What's the deal with long gun transportation? Lock in a case or trunk required now?

[mag360]

What is punishment for failure to comply with self reporting if you move here as there will be tonsbof people who won't even understand this is a law.

[Librarian]

Originally Posted by mag360

What is punishment for failure to comply with self reporting if you move here as there will be tonsbof people who won't even understand this is a law.

It is a misdemeanor - up to a year in county jail.

See the wiki -- http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Mo..._with_firearms

[Librarian]

Originally Posted by Maestro Pistolero

What's the deal with long gun transportation? Lock in a case or trunk required now?

http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Transporting

[vaka]

now that long guns will be registered are they subject to the one in a 30 day calendar and if so can you use a long gun dros to purchase a hand gun on the same sale since they are both now registered

[Librarian]

Originally Posted by vaka

now that long guns will be registered are they subject to the one in a 30 day calendar

No. Not for 2014.

[Gammax]

So I can still complete my 80% lowers? Because I have 3 coming.

[Saym14]

thanks Librarian!

[chris]

Originally Posted by hualampeter

So is AB 683 military exempt, like the HSC requirement?

Originally Posted by TacticalPlinker

Looks that way. There are actually several exemptions, including...

I was wondering this myself.

[chip3757]

Concerning AB48, what about taking previously owned kits out of state to use and coming back to the republic?

[Call_me_Tom]

Are there any changes to what an LEO can & can't do?

I thought I read somewhere that LEO's can't purchase off roster guns without a department letter head.

[Woodrow Call]

I was looking for an answer to chip3757's question as well. It would be handy to use assembled rebuild kits there and then return them to kit status before returning home. If they were purchased before Jan 1, 2014 would they be legal to bring back home again?

[wirenut6]

Do new purchases of black powder long guns need to be registered?

[Saym14]

Originally Posted by chip3757

Concerning AB48, what about taking previously owned kits out of state to use and coming back to the republic?

Good question

[buffybuster]

Can I get ANY parts to repair my existing normal capacity magazines or did it all become illegal?

[Riceball]

As far as the AB683 military exemption goes, am I right in thinking that by retired they also mean honorably discharged but not actually retired?

[Librarian]

Originally Posted by Riceball

As far as the AB683 military exemption goes, am I right in thinking that by retired they also mean honorably discharged but not actually retired?

Nope. Gotta get in your 20 (or whatever it is these days); simple discharge is not the same.

[Riceball]

Originally Posted by Librarian

Nope. Gotta get in your 20 (or whatever it is these days); simple discharge is not the same.

Really? What a crock of sh*t, what should it matter if you're retired or simply discharged, the training is the same. Stupid CA gun laws.

[Edgy01]

I suspect this is done this way because only a retiree or an active duty individual carries a federally issued ID card. Those who served but never retired merely get a typed document--a DD214. (Those have no photo on them, and can be 'massaged.')

Dan
Retiree, USAF