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Concealed Carry Discussion General discussion regarding CCW/LTC in California |
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Legal to carry a back up gun?
Someone said they heard you could only carry one gun at a time with your CCW. I never heard that and my attempts to research it haven't turned up any limit of one. Found one thing that said you can't have more than three on your person. y understanding is that if its on your CCW permit.. your good to carry it.. if you have 4 on there.. should be able to carry all four IMO. Can anyone shed some more light on this?
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Legally, can carry all the handguns on your license - that is, the law is silent on the number, but whatever number your agency specifies for the license is the max.
Your issuing agency may have an opinion.
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No I haven't checked with them.. thought i'd check here first.. and I looked over the CCW permit itself. I highly doubt they would restrict how many you can carry at a time.. when they don't even restrict how many can be on your permit, the old sheriff had a limit of three, the new one doesn't care.
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Do the conditions of your CCW say you can carry only one? If it's not a condition you can carry as many listed firearms as you wish.
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You should be fine then. Our Sheriff only places restrictions that are mandated by state law.
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When I go to the BIG city I carry two, when I go to big city...!
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THREE - if you count the one in my TRUCK...!!!
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I am curious as well. I haven't heard this before.
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They can state whatever they want but if it's not on your permit it is unenforceable.
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The San Bernardino Sheriff Deputy Instructors said the same thing in my CCW class. They want us to only carry one of the pistols listed on the license.
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If they haven't said anything, why put words into their mouths for future use?
Barring any language in the paperwork or permit, you get to decide. |
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So to all you guys who DO NOT have a CCW from San Bernardino county, instead of telling us how it rolls here, why don't you ask your issueing agency how it rolls there. Not your opinion, but what the agency says. |
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Back in the day when Chief Byrd (sp?) was issuing LTCs, I had a friend list 6 on his license with creative typing. Yup he carried all six.
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I don't think it is a big secret that most cops would rather no one but they carried, and their "opinions" strongly support that. What YOU should be doing is asking your agency where they come up with such a bogus rule. Unless they "pull permits" for asking questions. Last edited by Ritchie8719; 11-07-2013 at 6:32 AM.. |
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I just took the San Bernardino class about 3 weeks ago. There was no mention of how many of your listed firearms you can carry. I pick up my CCW tomorrow. I will ask about it and report back. The only thing I recall them saying that I disagree with is NOT to carry magazines with more than 10 round capacity. The plus side is they didn't say "couldn't", they said "shouldn't", due to the civil suit attorney using that against you somehow when the scumbag's family sues you for shooting their sweet, innocent little boy.
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thanks jay, and please go the extra mile and ask "why not" if they say "no".
the California penal code is pretty clear, I think, on what exceptions to prohibitions one has when issued a LTC. For instance, when I go to the range, my listed handguns are not in locked cases, and could be loaded, and be anywhere in the car. Handguns not on the list are unloaded in locked cases. |
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The easy way to answer a question like this is to read the (a) applicable PC sections, (b) the restrictions printed on the license, and (c) whatever the IA has on their website. Violating (a) can get you arrested and your license pulled. Violating (b) can get your license pulled. Violating (c) can get your license pulled, albeit not legally; litigation may be required on your part, and who can afford that?
Making a big issue outta this stuff in open threads? Well, that just might give someone ideas of what to try to restrict next. It's November ratings sweeps. Local TV news teaser: "Is the Sheriff allowing favored individuals to carry multiple loaded guns near YOUR child's school? We're asking (stupid) questions and getting (stupid) answers."
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http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/di...le=26150-26225 Quote:
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Mine has no restrictions or terms on it.. just "License to carry concealed pistol, revolver, or other firearm within the state of California" So I don't think it is fair to say if its not on the permit it must not be a real restriction. That why you sign a paper saying you've read all the restrictions and know them.. like where you can't carry. I couldn't find a restriction about more then one gun in any of the application paperwork.
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The terms of the Penal Code and applicable Federal law also apply; those govern almost all of the 'where can I carry' restrictions. Issuing agencies can add restrictions (beyond things that would bring a criminal penalty) to a license; LTC exempts the carrier from the Gun Free School Zone restrictions, but an issuer may mark a license 'no carry on school property'; the Penal Code is completely silent on carry where there are signs prohibiting on private property, or where alcohol is sold/served, but issuers may mark a license 'no carry where signs prohibit' or 'no carry in places that serve alcohol'. But until some court case changes the plain meaning of the law - and we may have such a case in progress - my position is that the Penal Code means what it says, and if an agency wants behavior beyond what the law requires, that must be actually listed on the physical license issued.
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That's what I was trying to say. Restrictions in excess of what the law already states must be on the license to carry.
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Just picked up my CCW at the sheriffs office (still in the parking lot as a matter of fact). I asked about carrying multiple firearms. It's not a problem. The lady I spoke with said "you can carry one in your pocket, one in your jacket and one in your boot. We don't care as long as it's listed on your permit". Hope that clears things up.
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