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Concealed Carry Discussion General discussion regarding CCW/LTC in California |
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Legal to mod your EDC?
I've heard a little discussion about not changing out the trigger or doing anything that alters the way your every day carry firearm came from the factory. Is it illegal? I have a S&W Sheild 9, that I want to drop a new trigger in. What are the concequences when using one to defend yourself after it's been modified?
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Depends on your issueing agency.
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Most people don't recommend changing the mechanical (trigger) parts as it can cause issues in court. Again depends on agency if it's legal or not. I would recommend only changing the sights or grips just to be safe. Here's a good video about the issue on more of a national level.
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I have a Shield and am Licensed to carry in San Bernardino, my Shield has a modified trigger ( 4lb ), loaded chamber indicator blocked and night sights. My gun passed in section easily. However the guy in front of me was denied by the same instructor for to light of trigger, i'm not sure how light it was or what type of gun. I couldn't get a good look without putting my nose where it didn't belong.
I look at it this way and maybe i'm wrong, but if I get in a spot where I have to DEFEND my life or my families. The last thing i'm worried about is a lawsuit. That's what insurance is for, which I have yet to purchase LOL |
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Not a question of legal or illegal.
Some IAs do not allow modified guns on your permit. Some don't care. If you IA allows it, some people think it's a bad idea to modify a carry or HD gun. Some think it would never matter. The answer is: Check with your IA then decide for yourself if using a modified gun in an hd/sd situation will make a difference because there's no legal answer and certainly no consensus of opinion here and it's been discussed 1000 times. |
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San Bernardino permit here. My 2 glocks passed inspection with the following mods:
Glock 17 - 3.5 lb trigger, 3rd party sights installed EDC Glock 26 - 3.5 lb trigger, cerakoted (but is wearing off due to holster wear from daily carry).
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During my interview the officer cycled my pistols a few times. I was a little scared he would deny as the drop safety and mag locks were disconnected. He let them through
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from those who were told that the gun's would not/did not qualify under their IA's rules or after inspection in their CCW class identified that unapproved/unsafe? changes were made. Few guns that I would consider carrying would require real trigger work outside of range/competition use...
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I have to ask ... what benefit could be gained by disabling the drop safety?
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San Bernardino County Sheriff Department has a nothing under 3.5lbs trigger pull requirement. And if it keeps having stoppages/malfunctions during the shooting portion, then it's a disqualifier. ^During my range day, some guy with a "customized" (he did all the mods himself; lighten trigger, heavier recoil spring assembly, disabled chamber load indicator, disabled magazine disconnect, stronger magazine springs) S&W Shield 40 kept having stoppages, so they no-go'd that handgun.
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Qualified SB county yesterday... I didn't see a single gun denied out of 22 people, over 50 guns. Instructor encouraged external accuracy and comfort upgrades (sights, lasers, grips) recommended against "competition" upgrades and things like punisher skulls painted on your gun.
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Gun modification is not a factor in determining legality in the intentional use of deadly force in self-defense. Intent is stipulated (you intended to use your gun to defend yourself), and deadly force is not an issue (any gun is inherently deadly). The only issue is the self-defense component: were you legally justified in using deadly force in self-defense under the circumstances?
In a negligent (as opposed to intentional) shooting, gun modification could be a factor. Did the gun modification contribute (think nexus) to the negligent discharge? This is the issue surrounding the "hair trigger" debate, and the reason that some issuing agencies are concerned with modifications that they believe make a gun unsafe to carry around in public with their authorization.
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I am planning on changing my PX4 from type F (decocker and manual safety) to type G (decocker only). I have not heard of any problems with this, since both F and G are available on the Kommiefornia handgun roster.
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Apparently Beretta chose to not submit for renewal.
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I don't NEED to modify a gun to use it to defend myself, so I don't. Just my personal opinion and practice.
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Oh that's right, I didn't think about it until you pointed it out.
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