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So, am about to do my first interstate intrafamily handgun transfer. It will involve more than one handgun. I understand that gifted handguns are roster-exempt, but I don't see where the purchaser is exempt from the one handgun DROS per 30 days in this case. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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there is no 1-in-30-day exempton for intrafamily transfers that go through an FFL, so you'll need to have the FFL hold onto the additional handguns long enought to clear the 30-day wait on each handgun. Or use a C&R FFL + COE to be exempt from the 1-in-30 rule.
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Assuming the person has a C&R FFL+COE that's only vaild for C&R guns. Interfam transfers are not exempt from the C&R rule.
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incorrect. The PC exemption to the 1-in-30 rule is not limited to just C&R handguns. The exemption is valid for modern handguns as well.
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You're correct ke6guj. I just checked and apparently DOJ didn't word the PC to specify only C&R guns. My apologies for any confusion.
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I am in on this. I will do anything legal.
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The DOJ does not word the PC, the elected politicians do. The DOJ tries to figure out how to enforce it, like a police officer. BTW, it was a DOJ person who told me that a C&R FFL & COE exempt the 1per30 for modern handguns.
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Any Fresno area dealers in on this yet? I asked at a local dealer and they were not aware of this, and said if the gun was coming in from out of state, and was to go through a FFL, then the gun definitely has to be on the roster, and since the gun in question is not, it is not legal, I was told to have her bring it here to Cali, hand me the gun, then do the intrefamily form on Ca DOJ sight, and I know that's wrong per fed regs.
Actually Fresno to Lodi area FFL works for me, I'm often up that way Last edited by brianm767; 09-18-2010 at 11:54 AM.. |
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I have asked the question of the CA DOJ (quite some time ago) and they tell you how to do it. So, you might suggest that the FFL calls the CA DOJ to be educated.
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Great point. Do you remember the name of the agent by chance? If not, no biggie. Consumers just ask the FFL to call the DOJ BOF field agents and see what they say.
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The first time I did it the agent walked me through the process including having me process multiple handguns on the same day to the same customer.
But, that appears to have been bad information The DROS software didn't object and neither did the DOJ. I guess I got lucky.
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I am not sure of who I talked to, but there are a couple that I trust more than others. I don't want to post names though.
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Tagged for later reading.
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did you really necropost a 6-month old thread just to TAG it?
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Perhaps some people are not aware of the thread tools or bookmarks :-).
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Good to go!
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Count me in as well..
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Where it gets really strange is that modern handguns are 1in30 exempt with 03/COE, but NOT exempt of HSC/Safety demo. Only C&R are...
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I don't know for certain, but I'd be very surprised if Rob Blank (RMB Enterprises, Milpitas, CA) would refuse any legal PPT. And as described these are indeed legal transactions. Rob has a history of standing up for our rights (OLL era).
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Only changes from any information in this thread is that the DOJ stopped allowing the 1-every-30 exemption for modern handguns for 03+COE.
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