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Old 02-16-2022, 2:20 PM
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Quick question: does an FFL 03 allow you to perform background checks for the purpose of private ammo sales?
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Old 02-16-2022, 2:44 PM
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FFL 03 and private ammo sales

Quick question: does an FFL 03 allow you to perform background checks for the purpose of private ammo sales?
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In regards to CA ammunition laws/regulations...

A valid C&R 03-FFL by itself has no value and does not grant any exemptions to CA ammunition laws.

A valid C&R 03-FFL and valid CA DOJ COE grants an exemption that allows the person who has both of those to be able to:
1. Legally acquire ammunition from a non-CA licensed ammunition vendor/CA FFL dealer without having to have the ammunition transfer be done through a CA DOJ licensed ammunition vendor or CA FFL dealer. [PC 30312(c)(6)]
2. Legally order ammunition online from a non-CA vendor and have the ammunition shipped to their address. [PC 30312(c)(6)]
3. Travel outside of CA, acquire ammunition and bring that ammunition back to CA without having to utilize a CA DOJ licensed ammunition vendor or CA FFL dealer. [PC 30314(b)(5)]

When acquiring ammunition from CA DOJ licensed ammunition vendor or CA FFL dealer, a person with a valid C&R 03-FFL and valid CA DOJ COE must still undergo an ammunition DROS/background check. But, is qualified to conduct that process as a COE check. [PC 30370(a)(2) and 11 CCR 4285]

A person with a valid C&R 03-FFL and valid CA DOJ COE is not exempt from the amount of ammunition they can legally sell in CA. [PC 30342]
^500 rounds per 30 days still applies.
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Old 02-17-2022, 8:22 PM
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No.


In regards to CA ammunition laws/regulations...

A valid C&R 03-FFL by itself has no value and does not grant any exemptions to CA ammunition laws.

A valid C&R 03-FFL and valid CA DOJ COE grants an exemption that allows the person who has both of those to be able to:
1. Legally acquire ammunition from a non-CA licensed ammunition vendor/CA FFL dealer without having to have the ammunition transfer be done through a CA DOJ licensed ammunition vendor or CA FFL dealer. [PC 30312(c)(6)]
2. Legally order ammunition online from a non-CA vendor and have the ammunition shipped to their address. [PC 30312(c)(6)]
3. Travel outside of CA, acquire ammunition and bring that ammunition back to CA without having to utilize a CA DOJ licensed ammunition vendor or CA FFL dealer. [PC 30314(b)(5)]

When acquiring ammunition from CA DOJ licensed ammunition vendor or CA FFL dealer, a person with a valid C&R 03-FFL and valid CA DOJ COE must still undergo an ammunition DROS/background check. But, is qualified to conduct that process as a COE check. [PC 30370(a)(2) and 11 CCR 4285]

A person with a valid C&R 03-FFL and valid CA DOJ COE is not exempt from the amount of ammunition they can legally sell in CA. [PC 30342]
^500 rounds per 30 days still applies.
Quiet - Thank you for this. I really appreciate a fellow CalGuner that provides factual and useful information. As a FFL03, I am always making sure I am coloring inside the lines. This helps.
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Old 04-21-2022, 9:03 AM
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How does a C&R 03-FFL and COE holder sell ammo if they cant do background checks?
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Old 04-21-2022, 11:45 AM
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How does a C&R 03-FFL and COE holder sell ammo if they cant do background checks?
In state, only to another FFL03 + COE holder.
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"How does a C&R 03-FFL and COE holder sell ammo if they cant do background checks?"
You can't. You can "Buy" ammo. To sell, or transfer it, you need an Ammo Vendor License, and access to the DES system, were you perform the background check.
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Thanks for the replies.
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Old 04-22-2022, 5:53 AM
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How does a C&R 03-FFL and COE holder sell ammo if they cant do background checks?
Through a FFL 01, same as you would sell firearms to a non-licensee.
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