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Old 08-20-2019, 2:59 PM
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Couldn't help myself had to order one from Century Arms. If possible this one is even mintier than the one I got 9 years ago imported by PW and I think I got it from J&G (jeez been that long since I shot that thing?) that one has the 1911 style safety applied to the frame.

I also have the "safetyless" original exchange trigger enroute! (Actually it just arrived also!)

Pistol has matching numbers, force match engraved mag number though. Glad I picked up those extra 5 factory new M57 mags when I got the first one!

Still waiting on a Beretta M81 (I know not C&R) going to the LGS, though hoping it will be as nice as this pistol.

(Shoulda ordered more mags for it from Beretta last week, all sold out now! Could a Ebayed them and made my money back!)

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Old 08-20-2019, 6:52 PM
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I just got mine too. I like the extra length I'm the grip.

I'm debating on the Beretta 1951 or Beretta 81. I missed out on the Star BM by a week.
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I just got mine too. I like the extra length I'm the grip.

I'm debating on the Beretta 1951 or Beretta 81. I missed out on the Star BM by a week.
Yeah I went with the M57 for the longer grip and extra capacity mags.

I'd go with the M 81 (collectability if available) especially IF a source for extra mags pops up.

Currently Beretta USA and all USA suppliers are sold out (yeah big surprise!).

However Beretta Europe has them in stainless but will NOT ship a non EURO country, namely to the USA!

Sold all my Stars but was tempted with the recent BM offerings!

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Old 08-20-2019, 7:13 PM
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I don’t know anything about combloc pistols, but that is a beauty.
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Old 08-20-2019, 7:25 PM
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I donít know anything about combloc pistols, but that is a beauty.
Thanks, this is the one I got 9 years ago with thw 1911 type safety (so now I have 2 and like the longer grip of this model), it even came with a holster, cleaning rod and 2 mags!





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Well made and nice shooters. I picked up TT33 in 1968 and didn't like the grip feel but M57 changed that. When I received the first one I made 100 rounds of 7.62X25 from LC 223 cases until I found a source for surplus on ten round strippers then PPU became available.



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You guys are tempting me to grab another one!
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You guys are tempting me to grab another one!
Get'em while the nice ones are available!
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Well made and nice shooters. I picked up TT33 in 1968 and didn't like the grip feel but M57 changed that. When I received the first one I made 100 rounds of 7.62X25 from LC 223 cases until I found a source for surplus on ten round strippers then PPU became available.



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Nice pics! Definitely cousins to my first one, I agree didn't like the shorter grips on the other models either

Can't remember who had the factory sealed mags back then but picked up extras, so wouldn't have to fight the "can't find extra mag battle" I'm doing now with the Beretta M81! ( MEC-GAR just emailed me and stated they have NO plans of making a Beretta M81 mags)

Yeah picked up some surplus ammo back then, and stocked up a little with the new stuff when it came out in JHP and FMJ!
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What I especially like about the M57's with the glock safety is that all you have to do is source a standard M57 trigger and presto! the gun is back to how it originally looked.



How can you tell if the trigger is a "real" M57? They put serial numbers on nearly all major parts:


FYI here is a partial serial number chart to help you identify when your M57 was made. Unfortunately it only goes up to 1964, but I think you could extrapolate the date beyond the chart since it seems to be quite liner;
1957 __ __ (5 torch crests only)
1958 A- __
1959 B- A-
1960 C- B-
1961 D- C-
1962 E- D-
1963 F- E- (5 or 6 torch crests)
1964 G- F- (6 torch crests only)

According to the chart mine was made in 1964

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So jealous! Darn you, CA!

And a Beretta too? Something about that midsize frame and 13 rounds of .32 just sounds like fun!
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What I especially like about the M57's with the glock safety is that all you have to do is source a standard M57 trigger and presto! the gun is back to how it originally looked.



How can you tell if the trigger is a "real" M57? They put serial numbers on nearly all major parts:


FYI here is a partial serial number chart to help you identify when your M57 was made. Unfortunately it only goes up to 1964, but I think you could extrapolate the date beyond the chart since it seems to be quite liner;
1957 __ __ (5 torch crests only)
1958 A- __
1959 B- A-
1960 C- B-
1961 D- C-
1962 E- D-
1963 F- E- (5 or 6 torch crests)
1964 G- F- (6 torch crests only)

According to the chart mine was made in 1964
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Thanks for the chart very useful! Mine has a "G" prefix also so now I know about when it was produced.

The numbers on that trigger in your photo are parts assembly numbers correct?
The "replacement" trigger I received from Classic has no numbers at all, but does show very slight finish wear on a couple edges.
Maybe I'll just swap out the trigger (with assembly numbers) on my original M57 and put the replacement into the one with the 19111 style safety.
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Old 08-21-2019, 3:34 PM
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So jealous! Darn you, CA!

And a Beretta too? Something about that midsize frame and 13 rounds of .32 just sounds like fun!
Yeah it does have a comfortable feel and weight to it with the aluminum frame.

I mentioned to the LGS owner today when I picked it up, "I saw the M81 and just kind of thought why not"? He said I wasn't the only one as he'd had "slew" of them come through for transfer once they hit the market!

I got the AIM "STANDARD" grade, whatever that means as some of the vendors seemed to backtrack on some of their descriptions (and prices) AFTER I placed my order. Mine has the PW, WA Import info on the bottom of the trigger guard. Definitely NOT the same overall condition or quality of finish as the M57 though.
Mechanically seems solid, the finish shows a little wear here and there, bore is very strong and clean.

Also I see the Classic $169 "not so good" versions are sold out as well!!!!!!

I'd say these are probably the hottest sellers this year so far and the ammo isn't that cheap either! Good thing I stocked up before leaving CA a couple years ago.

Will post photos when I get them transferred, but I guess rightfully I should take them off this C&R Forum and put them on the Handguns forum?
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Old 08-21-2019, 4:08 PM
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Thanks for the chart very useful! Mine has a "G" prefix also so now I know about when it was produced.

The numbers on that trigger in your photo are parts assembly numbers correct?
The "replacement" trigger I received from Classic has no numbers at all, but does show very slight finish wear on a couple edges.
Maybe I'll just swap out the trigger (with assembly numbers) on my original M57 and put the replacement into the one with the 19111 style safety.
Yes, the various numbers are part numbers, why they put them on is a mystery to me, unless they thought it would be easier to order replacement parts in the field. Notice that they even have a part number on the frame.

But, as for your idea to put the numbered trigger on the one with the Glock safety, that's exactly what I would do. The one with the import safety isn't ever going to be "correct", so why not have one that is?

As for your guns being on the C&R forum, if your M57 is a "G" code, then it was made in 1964, which by definition, makes it a C&R firearm.

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Yes, the various numbers are part numbers, why they put them on is a mystery to me, unless they thought it would be easier to order replacement parts in the field. Notice that they even have a part number on the frame.

But, as for your idea to put the numbered trigger on the one with the Glock safety, that's exactly what I would do. The one with the import safety isn't ever going to be "correct", so why not have one that is?

As for your guns being on the C&R forum, if your M57 is a "G" code, then it was made in 1964, which by definition, makes it a C&R firearm.
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Thanks fer the info, moving the photos was referring to the Beretta M81 which unfortunately isn't a C&R. With your chart you did confirm my M57 is a C&R, always like to have proof!!!!
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Ok so I didn't want ta lose you guys so here are the Beretta photos:
You can see a little finish loss, on the triggerguard, a couple small scratches on one side of the slide. There is some very slight pitting on the mag that came with it even though it had a coating of oil. Not sure if I could have done better with hand picked or higher grade (and pricing). Maybe but always a crap shoot with surplus stuff when you can't get you hands on them! Almost want to get another! finish gone on mag release button.
"Allegedly" from two different vendor write ups I've seen these were used in the Italian Prison system, but who knows?













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I picked up my M57 today and swapped out the trigger. I also ordered the holster and for those anal guys, like me, that need to have the complete rig, the holster does come with the cleaning rod.

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Got mine cleaned up. The extractor pin is frozen in there and it's currently soaking in Koil. I have a trigger coming sometime next week.
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I picked up my M57 today and swapped out the trigger. I also ordered the holster and for those anal guys, like me, that need to have the complete rig, the holster does come with the cleaning rod.

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I'm lucky being one of those that got one of the M57's about 9 years ago, it came with a nice new holster and a cleaning rod plus extra mag. So this "new" acquisition is going into that holster rig! Actually already has!
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Got my trigger from Apex, sweet.
Is it one of the "new" used ones Classic is selling without the assembly part number on it?


I'm ONLY guessing here but would it be "correct" for the C&R vintage M57s to have the assembly numbered trigger as opposed to the NON C&R later manufacture ones to not have that number? Anyone know if and when they stopped using assembly numbers???

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Nice going AG Hauler. You did really good : ) These batch of M57's are much nicer then the ones J&G were selling with the aftermarket safety. I took the safety out of my two M57's back in the day. They function much better. Thinking about selling them as I never get out to shoot anymore.. Very nice piece you landed.
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