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California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism Discuss gun rights activism and 2A related political topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel. |
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Well, to continue the language of the law battle... if BB semiautomatic rifles become assault weapons we will just remove our gas tubes. No semiauto, no need for BB, they can pound dirt.
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I didn't know one needed state approval to transfer one's guns out of its jurisdiction.
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Soon. Just have to make sure you own or are renting where ever you put them so that they're still under your control.
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I too am betting it won't happen. Most of us will just fold.
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If I were I skeptical person I'd advise you to: "Maybe stop trolling here and go about your anti-gun shill business somewhere else?"
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A lot of people would not fight a war over a right which they can easily enjoy in a large majority of the states: easier to move than be a martyr.
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I think one would be remiss if one doesn't plan now, but foolish if one implements the plan before there is a law and a deadline. Keep your options open until you can no longer.
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I'm so glad all those letters/emails I sent, phone calls I made, and donations to pretty much all the pro 2nd orgs. have made a difference! Wow - here I thought it was going to be a gargantuan waste my time and money.
I’m glad things are getting better and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. I'm also relieved and can sleep peacefully because I'm confident they're not coming after my guns (and ammo) - few! And my snipery bolt action guns are safe because I can hunt with them – they promise. The next time a ridiculous bill gets proposed I'll double down on the emails and calls cause it works. Call me crazy, but I thought doing exactly the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result was insane. Man, was I wrong! Ignorance is bliss.
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I still call and email, but I know it is pointless. I just feel better trying just in case. Besides, there isn't much else we can do if the legislature, courts, voters, and government are against us but knell or leave.
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Same here... I sent out emails to two reps yesterday, knowing full well they will ignore it. The voting majority is cramming down on what is not even a small minority. Gun owners if they all stood up would make decent noise.
At least as much as LBGT which have all their privileges and rights as much as they want fully endorsed. We, the constitutionally protected, are nonetheless the new oppressed.
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Don't get me wrong, I belong and support several gun orgs including NRA, CRPA, FPC and others. I will continue to do so as we are lost without them. But aside from a few NRA advertisements on Fox News I don't see any of them doing anything proactive with gun owners outside of their membership. They only seem to react to proposed bills and litigate those passed into law. Since there isn't any repercussion to the anti's piling on tons of anti-gun bills we won't win the war this way, only a few battles. It will take someone with the resources of NRA etc. to educate and unify all gun owners. I'm willing to do my part as I believe most on Calguns are. But we are a small subset of what is needed.
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Dec. 15, 1791 "The Right Of The People To Keep And Bear Arms Shall Not Be Infringed" EVER!!!!! NRA Life Member: Benefactor Calguns Supporter CRPA Supporter Second Amendment Foundation Life Member Defender Club |
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That is until the federal government becomes the encroacher and takes the initiative. Then the infringements will spread everywhere until states and individuals stand their ground.
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Some folks stood their ground at Waco. How did that go?
Prepare to die. Prepare to kill. Hillary and bill killed many more children at Waco than died at sandy hook. Frankly, they don't give a damn about your rights or life, or you're kids. To them it's about control So yes, we are screwed because trump can't fly straight enough for two days to get elected and Heller will get overturned. So give up either your guns or your life. I think it's going to be that simple.
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I was pleasantly surprised to see the California Waterfowl Association voicing opposition in recent committee hearings. Maybe some of them are starting to wake up.
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Seems like you may not be able to register the "assault weapon" if you don't know the date of purchase and place of purchase. Not everyone keeps receipts. One way to deal with this could possibly be to DROS it to a friend and have them DROS it back to you before the deadline (if this bill becomes law).
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If it's anything like the ban of 2000, there will be always around it. I didn't register my AR back then and I still have it without a bullet button. |
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Could you elaborate on that please? I am not very familiar with the AR platform or process(building/parts etc)
Im going to assume that the 80% is about a 'lower'? **edit- did a quick search. I understand. Thanks. Last edited by tn510; 05-20-2016 at 8:32 AM.. |
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Becoming a martyr is a big decision. It has a lot of consequences not for just yourself, but for your family and friends, too. That is one of the reasons why young, single men make better soldiers than 40-something, family-laden and property-burdened people do. That being said, perhaps California is underestimating the number this group might contain.
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The antis are going after all semi rifles, so if you like AR, then buy it. Just follow whatever terrible laws that we're stuck with.
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The mad descent into totalitarianism, reflected in the 10 new Gun Control Directives they want to enact in California.
But people are more concerned about where to take a piss if you have the gender identity re-wiring psychosis. This place is truly boned, it's off the goddamn rails. F4ggotry first, your right to defend yourself against totalitarianism dead goddamn last. This is what you get when you play along with the system and allow them to take things from you. They keep taking. And taking. |
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We give 'dem democratic legislators all they need right here to pass their anti-2A. legislation! They need only go on calguns and learn all about SSE and bullet-buttons, featureless rifles, 80 OLL. We are 'feeding' them all, to our detriment. Little doubt that nothing would've been done about SSE were it not for calguns, which is a double-edge sword, unfortunately. Just have to obtain the things one likes while still legal because the illegality will follow.
I just hope the Governor has the cajones and good sense to exercise his right to veto these hysterical laws and doesn't lose his nerve about it. He had vetoed in the past, hope that he continues to do so. For all intents and purposes I have left the democratic party and now consider myself 'unaffiliated'. On another topic I await an apology from that Republican former governor that got that ridiculous 'microstamping' law passed. Last edited by ifilef; 05-22-2016 at 8:42 AM.. |
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Giving up your guns WILL be giving up your life. Like you said, control is the endgame. No one who can adequately oppose you, your will will be applied faster than super glue sets. Guns are what made Us what we are. Yes, our military and militia in the 1700s put their lives on the line for today, yesterday and tomorrow. I guess you can always wait for the next guy to write that blank check for ya. Yeah, that actually sounds like a better plan. Damn, too bad I already wrote one.
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Jeez...another law? Time to pull out my ARMagLock mag release that I bought because I knew this day was coming.
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I don't vote democrat and I dont feel the NRA is a **** organization that doesn't benefits us the way they claim. But I just joined the CRPA. Thanks for saying something, as I hadn't heard of them before (newish to CA).
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The NRA is a minimalist gun rights organization which, IMO, often times puts their business interests above the true defense of gun rights. CRPA is better and the California Right to Carry (blog.californiarighttocarry.org) is on the front lines. And I donate to each accordingly.
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I wonder if there is a way to separate the upper/lower receivers automatically, maybe with a spring or something. It looked sort of inconsistent on the demonstration videos. It will be really interesting to see what manufacturers come up with if these bill(s) pass. |
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To those that say CA laws don't affect out of state vendors, look at the lawsuit by the City of San Francisco targeting out of state magazine parts vendors.
Two have caved and paid settlements, but one (Exile Machine?) is still fighting to avoid giving up their customer list. It doesn't seem right, but CA laws can reach out and touch others.
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