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You say....
"Some one tell me how holosun is not "blowing aimpoint out of the water with features and options" Then go on to say.... .... "But more features are more features. Dosent mean its better." Kind of a contradicting statement. Personally, I view a bunch of features crammed into the small unit as only adding to the opportunity to introduce failure. If you have a battery that last 50,000 hours why need to make an auto on/off. As for the multiple recticles, this seems to be more fluff than anything. I doubt you'll ever see a guy changing recticles during a high stress situation (competitive or defensive). I've had sights with this feature before and found I really only used one. If you train properly, you should only need one. It's also another opportunity to introduce failure or sight movement. Just my opinion, I'm far from any type of knowledge base for this. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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unlike the aimpoint one of the features or options is you can order it with auto on or not ... people have said they want one that stays on 247 so if they listen to comments they will make one like that or add that feature . Also you can buy one that only has a 2moa dot now.. the switching retical is not out yet. Alot people some how got that just because I said that holosun is blowing aimpoint out of the water with features that I actually said that holosun is"better" than aimpoint.. More features means just that more features... its not contradicting unless you think more features means better wich you clearly dont in this case only wanting one retical and no auto on or off... I feel that Auto on off would be great for people that dont use there gun every day and want a battery to last 10 or more years . Last edited by nbk9nbk; 11-04-2014 at 9:22 AM.. |
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Sorry but this whole thread just comes off feeling like an advertisement for some knock-off optic.
I'm pretty darn sure that Aimpoint isn't worried in the least about this chicom optic. I'm sure it will find a customer base since not everyone wants or needs a solid, reliable, proven optic.
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It's an interesting sight, I don't understand the mentality of "it's not an aimpoint or eotech so it sucks." Those sights are awesome, and I am not debating that. But, if it works it works and 99% of people here never have and never will put their optics/firearms through the conditions that eotech and aimpoint are built for. I wouldn't mind dropping $200 on one of these to test it out because I'm just a regular dude and not a high speed operator operating operationally.
The eotech copy reticle seems nice, and auto-on/never off would be ideal for a defensive carbine imo. I'm just going to follow the company and see what happens. I personally am interested. |
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People will learn that cheap knock off optics are a waste of money. No need to debate that on the forum. They will figure it out when they need to trash the knock off and pony out more cash for something that lasts.
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Sorry guys I was a lil off on price on the production model comes with high mount..but not t1 compatable base. Primary arms has one with side mounted battery tho t1 compatable base closer to 200.
looks like 169.77 At primary arms Or 171.n change on amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00KOO...&robot_redir=1 Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk |
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Just saw they have a solar powered one too.. Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk |
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I wonder when a sniper scope in rectangular will come out. The corners won't be as sharp but they still give more info than nothing at all. |
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You have to remember that with a magnified optic, the light is being focused at a point behind the ocular lens(where your head needs to go), and that point is only a few millimeters across. Too small and you end up with a tiny image, too big and you're essentially wasting light because the edges aren't entering your eye. If it were desirable to have rectangular lenses for this, you'd be seeing it in binoculars as well(among other things). When you don't have any magnification for something like a red dot, the point is to keep the frame as thin as possible, or provide a large enough lens that you aren't obstructing the field of view. Last edited by Merc1138; 11-04-2014 at 1:21 PM.. |
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Generally, a five year battery life is more realistic. If you have any shred of good sense, you'll replace your batteries every January 1st anyway, just like all your other household batteries. That way you never forget to change the battery, and pick up a dead optic. |
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Just because you have a patent it does not mean your product is free from look alike copies. If the claims in Aimpoint's patent are directed to the low power consumption circuitry, for example, look alike products could still be made and sold if they did not have that patented circuitry. |
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And I am a patent practitioner. |
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Just having a patent does not mean you will eliminate copy cats from producing "look alike" products, as long as these products do not infringe the claims of your patent. I have not seen the Aimpoint patent so I cannot be more specific, but I suspect they patented something specific to the power consumption circuitry and that feature has yet to be copied by look alike manufacturers AFAIK. |
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Then why use a title like "T1 Aimpoint looks like a dinosaur compared to the Holosun yata yata" That is clearly provocative and definitely geared to get the the hair up on the necks of EoTech and Aimpoint fans. |
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"gentlemen" Remember what we say for our fellow Americans who don't like guns? Don't like guns? Don't buy one..But don't hate me because I do...You think that maybe we should use some of that thinking here?????
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If somebody wants a cheap micro-sized red dot for a non-serious gun, wouldn't a $70 TRS25 do the trick at a 1/3 the cost of the Holosun?
http://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Troph.../dp/B00200E0HM < shrug > -- Michael |
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Believe me when I say... people who have purchased NV product for use on firearms wont be shopping at Big 5, and would much prefer to have one high quality unit with a 2nd or 3rd gen intensifier vs multiple x 1st gen units. To be honest, doing NV correctly is such an expensive proposition that the cost of the aimpoint or holosun optics is completely irreverent. A half decent entry level setup pretty much starts at $2000 for a 2nd gen day/night clip-on. Start looking at Gen3 + and easily find yourself in the $4000-6000 price range. Anyone thinking of making a successful NV setup walking into Big5 is kidding themselves... Last edited by ExtremeX; 11-05-2014 at 1:19 AM.. |
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Because its true, as I stated it has more features . T1 same old thing Secondly why complain and not be involved and not say whay in a micro dot Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk |
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Have fun making up stuff... good job bro. Clap clap Also thanks for being involved by saying what you think would make this optic as you said "the best thing since sliced bread. Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk |
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guys only buy aimpoint or eotech and gen3+... that is the only way to meet thr standards for a successful NV setup... Now we can discuss the topic Thanks for your opinion on a sight you have never tried... and what you would like to make it what u would buy .. Sent from my SGH-M919 using Tapatalk |
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Personally I am a content owner of a couple $80 primary arms micro dots… To be honest, I don’t really care for RDS units that much in general, and that includes Eotech and Aimpoint which I have owned in the past. My comments about NV was based more on personal experience. Having owned a couple 1st Gen NV products I quickly realize that trying to do NV on the cheap isn’t viable. It’s the reason I asked if you ever used a 1st gen NV unit. 1st Gen units REQUIRE IR illumination or a much greater amount of ambient light to even function well. There is a reason you don’t see a bunch of people on calguns showing off their budget NV setups. The price for a decent NV setup is generally out of reach for the hobbyists around here. This comparison for a good quality Gen 1 unit might put things into perspective... Comparing Gen1 with and without IR illumination to a Gen 2 with ambient light only. http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x...Comparison.jpg Last edited by ExtremeX; 11-05-2014 at 11:12 AM.. |
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What have I made up? I have no clue what you are even saying.
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Maybe we should, because this is the third time I've had to post in this thread and the fouth will be a list of people who will not be posting for the next week.
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So calling members out for promoting a product as "better" than a proven and tested product many of us have personal experience with when it obviously isn't is bad?
Have you read the OP's posts in here? He has offered nothing factual in his arguments for this product, and from the sounds of it, he doesn't even own one. |
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A simple "I disagree, where is your evidence?" would have been plenty. |
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