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Old 04-20-2018, 11:35 PM
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thats kinda surprising that glock continues to pull sales like that after all these years....
Why is it so surprising? Glock pretty much created the market for polymer framed striker fired handguns. They have been popular for decades. Even with new competitors, its still the same market, the guns still accomplish the same task. People will stop buying Glocks when they stop buying all semiautomatic handgun designs. Especially in CA where Glocks are one of the few guns still on the roster.
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There will always be a after market...
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Seriously I believe everyone in California who ever wanted a Glock already has 15.
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Seriously I believe everyone in California who ever wanted a Glock already has 15.
California has a population approaching 40 million with roughly 829,000 gun owners. I’d say there’s potential for more sales with new shooters. Love them, or hate them, Glock is a solid choice for a first handgun bigger than a .22.

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What are the chances that Glock:

Stops producing Gen 3,

Places Gen 4 on the roster.

They win/win.
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What are the chances that Glock:

Stops producing Gen 3,

Places Gen 4 on the roster.

They win/win.
So you think Glock may mod Gen 4’s to dual microstamp, have CA approved LCI, mag disconnect, drop safety test, and pay the roster extortion fee?? Ha! You have a better chance of winning a powerball jackpot....

The current roster requirements are impossible to comply with, exactly what our Dem politicians want.
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I can say that I have noticed in distribution Gen3s are not available. Gen4s and Gen5s are plentiful..

if anything the number of runs they are doing on Gen3s is way down.. I haven't been able to find a Glock 19 in over a month. In previous months they have always been available somewhere even if hi-cap version. 0 available. 0 Glock 26s available. Only 1 distributor had Glock 17s.. I purchased a few.

Flood of Gen4s, Gen5s at ALL distributors right now in many various different configurations and colors.

Clearly for them to produce those they cant also produce Gen3s as they were in the past. If they aren't being phased out they are at least being produced in less frequency now. Either that or all the FFLs in CA decided to go Glock crazy in the past 6 weeks.
^^^^^This^^^^^

One of my distributors told me Glock has already slowed the production of Gen3's. Like ugimports has said, finding Gen3's at the distributors is tough lately.

With this state and their rules of not allowing the Gen3 that is manufactured here in the states to be on the roster it makes sense that Glock would want to stop paying to import them.
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What are the chances that Glock:

Stops producing Gen 3,

Places Gen 4 on the roster.

They win/win.
I doubt that would happen. The cost of the R&D to make these guns Ca compliant is prohibitive. Look back just a couple years ago when Sig tried to make the P250 Ca compliant, after months of trying and truck loads of money for the R&D they gave up.
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I better hurry and buy a new round of gen 3 glocks. Need to replace the ones lost in a recent boating incident.
No way glock adds more to roster. Tech does not exist for duel stamp. Hope they keep gen 3's till some thing changes here in Ca.
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^^^^^This^^^^^

One of my distributors told me Glock has already slowed the production of Gen3's. Like ugimports has said, finding Gen3's at the distributors is tough lately.

With this state and their rules of not allowing the Gen3 that is manufactured here in the states to be on the roster it makes sense that Glock would want to stop paying to import them.
But so are the RTF models. I don't think it's difficult to assume that they've simply increased production of newer models like the 19x to keep up with demand. They haven't stopped making anything. Glock does this with the RTF and different colors too. Along with the 17L.

I don't think there's any need to assume the sky is falling. Slowing production is just good business when other models are in more demand. Also, SOCOM adopted the Gen 3 just a year or two ago. They still need to provide guns for them. Also the Vickers models that are popular require Gen 3 parts. Remember too that they have many customers in other countries and making Glocks in Austria will continue regardless of the US market.

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Yeah, don't be in to much of a rush for that. You know the Cal DOJ will appeal and stall like they have been so far. There's no free bowl of soup here.
You can have them stall now or ten years from now. I say get it over with. They back-doored a complete semi auto pistol ban, and they have to answer for it.
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I bought a G19 a couple months ago just in case they really do slow production or phase them out.

It's one of the few really good on-roster polymer guns available to use, and it's relatively cheap compared to other handguns.

If you opened this thread and don't already have at least one of the gen 3 Glocks, then you probably go out and buy one. They don't seem to go down in value.

Even the uppers are holding their value as there's a million guys building polymer80's in the US and they are all bidding on the same few uppers.
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If I'm not mistaken, Springfield Armory still produces for CA a 9mm 1911 that was discontinued years ago. Hopefully the civilian market in CA is large enough for Glock to continue producing the Gen 3s for us.
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But so are the RTF models. I don't think it's difficult to assume that they've simply increased production of newer models like the 19x to keep up with demand. They haven't stopped making anything. Glock does this with the RTF and different colors too. Along with the 17L.

I don't think there's any need to assume the sky is falling. Slowing production is just good business when other models are in more demand. Also, SOCOM adopted the Gen 3 just a year or two ago. They still need to provide guns for them. Also the Vickers models that are popular require Gen 3 parts. Remember too that they have many customers in other countries and making Glocks in Austria will continue regardless of the US market.

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Runs of the RTF and 17L are like once every 2 years. This was the first year (in 8) I was able to get my hands on any RTF2. Same with the OD green Gen3s.. I was able t get a few 6 months ago, but I only see those come up once a year or two..

So you're right, they haven't stopped. I was saying that Gen3s look like they are turning into special runs.. which means next time they show up that might be all the stock for the whole year... vs. 100s showing up at distributors replenishing stock monthly.

Also something like the Vickers model is still relatively low volume. I think only 1 of my 12 distributors carries that vs all 12 carry standard Gen3s.

Just because they make them for the military doesn't mean they will make them for civilian use. E.g., the military probably don't need ongoing supply.. they may just need their 5k at the beginning of each year (or whatever the number is).
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Glocks don't hold their value so by discontinuing production of the gen 3's, this will increase demand. So instead of buying them for $450-$500, people will probably have to pay $550-$600 for a G19 gen 3 if Glock really stopped producing them.
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Yeah the lower courts will rule that a handgun is not covered under the 2A or that revolvers are still available so therefore not an infringement, and the SCOTUS wont touch it ever.
Heller, by inference, held that the 2A protects weapons "typically possessed by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes..." The roster ban violates that by definition.
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California is the 7th largest economy on the planet. The Austrians know a market when they see one.
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Maybe the California " polymer gun market " slowed down, Glock doesn't see much profit in it anymore.
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I think the real answer here is everyone needs to go out and buy a new glock to show corporate that there is still a demand in CA
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I just bought a Gen3 19 from a member here, and fell in love!! I really wish glock would acknowlege us here in CA. The gen 5s look very appealing but k refuse to pay the off roster markup
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Heller, by inference, held that the 2A protects weapons "typically possessed by law-abiding citizens for lawful purposes..." The roster ban violates that by definition.
Its only a matter of time before Heller is overturned. I dont even trust socalled "conservative" judges. All they care about is prohibiting abortion and gay marriage or increasing corporate rights. Gun rights are a threat to any government, liberal or conservative. Both liberals and conservatives strive for oneparty rule where they can have total control over the people inorder to serve the interests of the wealthy cultural elite. Many conservative elites dont even own any guns themselves other than some fancy skeet guns and hunting rifles, they can afford to live seperately from the unwashed masses with personal security. The more unarmed the rest of the populace is the better for them.
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I think the real answer here is everyone needs to go out and buy a new glock to show corporate that there is still a demand in CA
Yes. I don't have a need for any new gun nowadays nor am I a Glock nut....but to help out, I may have to buy one.
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Springfield is licking their chops. I guess I'll have to become an XD "fanboi". Haha.

Sounds like Sportsmans warehouse is a little overstocked with Glocks right now. LOL.

You can still get LE trade in Glock 22s for $299/$350 OTD at River City in Sacramento, if anyone is interested. They are in practically unused condition, slight holster wear, strong night sights.

Maybe people will finally breakeven on their zev customs.
River City also has "Excellent Condition" Sig p220R's with night sights for $699

I hear a story like this about a Glock Rep said Gen3's are discontinued... every year.

If and when you verify the story was pulled out of a butt, please out the slime ball that lied about it.
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River City also has "Excellent Condition" Sig p220R's with night sights for $699

I hear a story like this about a Glock Rep said Gen3's are discontinued... every year.

If and when you verify the story was pulled out of a butt, please out the slime ball that lied about it.
Jack at Sportsmans Warehouse in Rancho Cordova is the one that started this one.

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I put a deposit on a Glock 17 on March 26 at Alquist Arms in Turlock. The vendor notified me it was in on April 21. I do not know how long they were out of stock before I ordered.

I was a bit surprised how long it took, so perhaps this is a sign of the times.

At least I am helping Glock stay alive in CA!

They have 5 in stock as of this morning, 4/21. $499.
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I just bought a Gen3 19 from a member here, and fell in love!! I really wish glock would acknowlege us here in CA. The gen 5s look very appealing but k refuse to pay the off roster markup
They cannot get the new guns on roster. It is impossible due to the stupid laws.
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How does this start?

Aug 2013 https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...78&postcount=1
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The SF models will remain in production.
That happened. Then....

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Eventually, production may be halted altogether, but we’ve been worrying about this due to rock-solid reporting for a lot of years.

Glock needs to focus on market share with its new Gen pistols. That takes up production and distribution resources. That’s bound to cut into G3 production/distribution which will be seen more in California due to the roster.

I suspect, as with the G-17L, the G3 guns will eventually be on special production run each year, but that won’t happen until the G4/5 saturation is complete.
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How does this start?

Aug 2013 https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/...78&postcount=1

Mar 2014 http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...06&postcount=1

Aug 2014 http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...84&postcount=3
Nov 2014 http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...29&postcount=8
~SNIP~
Apr 2018 http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...83&postcount=1Eventually, production may be halted altogether, but we’ve been worrying about this due to rock-solid reporting for a lot of years.

Glock needs to focus on market share with its new Gen pistols. That takes up production and distribution resources. That’s bound to cut into G3 production/distribution which will be seen more in California due to the roster.

I suspect, as with the G-17L, the G3 guns will eventually be on special production run each year, but that won’t happen until the G4/5 saturation is complete.

The bolded one did occur.
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The bolded one did occur.
Thanks. I did mean to clarify that. It sets the stage for the rest.
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this is a good excuse to buy a new Gen 3 GLOCK asap

especially if you always wanted one or dont have a certain model yet

if this rumor is true, expect to see a shortage by next year, then you will be saying I should have bought a few extra for my son's or family members
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Glock could keep them active on the roster for a while since there are probably tens of thousands of used gen 3s in the other states that could be imported into CA as long as the model remains on the roster. Still probably lots of LE trade ins that Glock could unload on the CA market.
That makes great sense. I think roster renewal isvonly a couple hundred bucks and it keeps a huge market open so that other non-CA folks can sell their old gen3s for full price and buy s new gen Glock. So it helps Glock our by letting owners have a way to recover money of new products.
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GOOD!! I hope it's true!

Like them or not Glocks are one of the most prolific handguns out there right now. People who aren't that in to firearms know the name and when they look at buying the 'just one gun for protection' many ask about Glocks.

If they stop making them maybe a lot of these 'part time/not my problem/uninformed' gun owners will wake the hell up and get involved in fighting back.

Some might even get off their damn butts and do something revolutionary like voting!
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Respectfully,
I'd read but don't have a source, Glock will continue the Gen 3 with two ten rounders for CA,
and followed up with a Glock rep who told me the exact same thing.

Glock will continue to produce Gen 3 with 2 ten rounders for CA, for the time being.

Heard it second hand, sourced from a poker game.

Seriously, I spoke to the Glock Rep,

over coffee and Baileys.
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Just on this hearsay rumor, I went ahead and ordered a Glock 19 from Sportsman's Warehouse since obviously... everyone but me has one...
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I have a GSSF coupon burning a hole in my pocket anyways. This is as good an excuse as any to use it
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