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Centerfire Rifles - Semiautomatic or Gas Operated Centerfire rifles, carbines and other gas operated rifles. |
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Any legal advice on AR Bolt action conversion ?
I would like to hear from someone about the legality of converting my AR15 to a bolt action rifle. My first thought is to remove the gas block and tube and cap the gas port in the barrel with a bolt on collar around the gas port. I can cycle the action with the existing charging handle or build a side charger lever to do so. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks for your help.
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Since 2000, CA DOJ has accepted that an AR style rifle with it's gas tube/piston removed and the gas block plugged, is no longer a semi-auto rifle and is a manually operated rifle.
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Not legal advice, but I would just get a good bolt action gun and run the AR featureless or sell it. If you are stuck on AR aesthetics get a Ruger Precision Rifle. A decent bolt action will almost certainly shoot better than a bubba'd AR.
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Good point. Best to ask a lawyer familiar with the subject.
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I don't see the answer to this question as "Legal Advice."
I see it as common sense. If people can't understand what they read they probably should just stick with fishing or other less technical pursuits. If the gun is Manually Operated it is not a Semi or Full Automatic Firearm. Simple as that. Randy |
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FWIW I did this a few months ago on the cheap, I bought the AR stoner side charging upper and then tig welded and polished up the gas port and viola manual action. It shoots really well despite what a lot of the nay sayers say. I left the buffer internals in tact and all I have to do is pull back and let go. its no different than hitting the BHO or charging it off the mag with the standard handle. I had an extra barrel and the upper with BCG was 234.00 on sale through Midway at the time. Like an above post said its not about if it is legal it is simply not a semi auto center fire rifle anymore and there is no way to dispute it. Not gonna lie I was hesitant to attempt it because lets be honest it sucks to neuter the rifle but at this point until something changes this is where we are at. I am glad I did it shoots nice and I can still enjoy it.
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This is not legal advise, just a recomendation.
Sorry if this was mentioned already but you could easily remove the gas block, remove the gas tube, then install said gas block upside down. If the gas tube is a pita to get off then get a cheap one and mount upside down. |
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Guys keep saying flip the gas block over. It would seem to me for a lot of handgaurds this won’t work. The gas tube port is up under the picatinny rail and I know at least on mine you could not flip it due to this. There was not enough space between it and the bottom of the hand guard.
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Who did you buy it from ? A few guys have mentioned they can’t find them in other threads.
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Or are you talking about the ejecting side of things? Last edited by Bullets&Whitewalls; 01-16-2018 at 7:48 PM.. |
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Better to simply move the GB forward about 1/8", or whatever it takes to offset the hole alignment. Or weld up the holes in the GB. Or use a barrel with no gas port (or one that's been welded over). |
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Yes, removing the case that has been fired and expanded against the chamber is where the problems can occur. I have a straight pull SKS and about every 5th round takes an extra hard yank to eject. Some factory pumps and straight pulls flute the chamber to avoid this. Apparently at least some people with straight pull ARs have no problem. |
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Last edited by AGFNTB; 01-17-2018 at 9:14 PM.. |
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^ gavin is that you?
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Please post a pic when you're done. I'm now considering converting 2 ARs to bolt action type.
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Hebrews 9:27 "And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgement." One of the traditional methods of imposing statism or socialism on a people has been by way of medicine. It’s very easy to disguise a medical program as a humanitarian project. ~ Ronald Reagan Last edited by Barang; 01-18-2018 at 9:35 AM.. |
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Does the chamber need any modifications for a straight pull AR? i built a sp in 6.5 grendel with a side charging upper but i had to mortar the thing to get the cases out.
I asked a smith that i trust and he said the chamber might be a little tight and run a couple hundred rounds through it in a semi configuration to wear it in and then try again. I'm still in the process of putting the rounds down the pipe and have no idea if it will work at that point. May be an issue if you buy a barrel without a port and the chamber sticks like mine. |
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My 6.8 is a straight pull.
Got the barrel from Ben at Bison Armory without a gas port. Used a Mega billet upper and a Young Mfg. side charging bolt carrier. I’ve put almost 500 rounds through this gun and I’ve never experienced a hard extraction, all of it was high quality factory ammo but that doesn’t mean it can’t happen if your barrel has a tight chamber. Rifle has all the evil features and I can drop my mags like they do in America. It is fun to shoot, I’ve got less than two months in this crap hole state and I doubt I’ll ever add a gas tube once I’m across the state line. Last edited by m16; 01-20-2018 at 5:39 PM.. Reason: Fixed image |
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I saw this straight pull bolt action BCG on TFB today.
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...ion-ar-15-bcg/ I hope to check it out at Shot Show next week. Last edited by Sparrow Dynamics; 01-20-2018 at 10:22 AM.. |
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I’m going the same route since my AR is a bench shooter anyway, 24” bull barrel. I have a mega arms lower and brownells has a mega arms side charge upper on sale now for $89.99. Then I got a bear creek arsenal side charge bcg on sale for $69.99. So $160 for a side charge upper is not bad at all. I think the bear creek BCG will be fine for my purpose. I do like the young manufacturing side charge bcg but hard to find in stock and $$$.
Then I’ll probably take my standard upper and build something with a 16 or 18” barrel that I can swap on and off since I’ll also be installing a hogue freedom fighter mag lock that will be removeable for the bolt action upper. Last edited by Rgarbarino; 01-20-2018 at 4:21 PM.. |
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